Re: RFC: removal of share/doc/{papers,psd,smm,usd} in 2 months

2012-10-22 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Ulrich Spörlein u...@freebsd.org wrote: On Sun, 2012-10-21 at 10:40:45 +0200, Hans Ottevanger wrote: On 10/19/12 16:36, Ulrich Spörlein wrote: Hi all, those roff sources have been very naughty and will be removed from the tree by the end of the year.

Re: RFC: removal of share/doc/{papers,psd,smm,usd} in 2 months

2012-10-22 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 04:36:18PM +0200, Ulrich Sprlein wrote: those roff sources have been very naughty and will be removed from the tree by the end of the year. ... Should people feel strongly about them, we might be able to move them over to the doc repository. This does not seem a RFC --

Re: RFC: removal of share/doc/{papers,psd,smm,usd} in 2 months

2012-10-22 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 02:53:11PM +0200, C. P. Ghost wrote: How about converting them to SGML and integrating them into the Handbook (with the caveat that they are outdated, but retained for archival purposes)? I find the Handbook to not look very well due to its SGML nature and one page per

Re: RFC: removal of share/doc/{papers,psd,smm,usd} in 2 months

2012-10-22 Thread Joel Dahl
On 22-10-2012 14:53, C. P. Ghost wrote: On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Ulrich Spörlein u...@freebsd.org wrote: On Sun, 2012-10-21 at 10:40:45 +0200, Hans Ottevanger wrote: On 10/19/12 16:36, Ulrich Spörlein wrote: Hi all, those roff sources have been very naughty and will be

Re: RFC: removal of share/doc/{papers,psd,smm,usd} in 2 months

2012-10-22 Thread Brett
those roff sources have been very naughty and will be removed from the tree by the end of the year. ... Should people feel strongly about them, we might be able to move them over to the doc repository. This does not seem a RFC -- this sounds more like you or a cabal already made the

Re: RFC: removal of share/doc/{papers,psd,smm,usd} in 2 months

2012-10-21 Thread Hans Ottevanger
On 10/19/12 16:36, Ulrich Spörlein wrote: Hi all, those roff sources have been very naughty and will be removed from the tree by the end of the year. Most of those papers are severely out of date and provide no more use to the system. They can probably also be found online using a search

Re: RFC: removal of share/doc/{papers,psd,smm,usd} in 2 months

2012-10-21 Thread Ulrich Spörlein
On Sun, 2012-10-21 at 10:40:45 +0200, Hans Ottevanger wrote: On 10/19/12 16:36, Ulrich Spörlein wrote: Hi all, those roff sources have been very naughty and will be removed from the tree by the end of the year. Most of those papers are severely out of date and provide no more use to

Re: RFC: removal of share/doc/{papers,psd,smm,usd} in 2 months

2012-10-20 Thread Ulrich Spörlein
On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 12:14:28 -0400, Eitan Adler wrote: On 19 October 2012 10:36, Ulrich Spörlein u...@freebsd.org wrote: Should people feel strongly about them, we might be able to move them over to the doc repository. Moving them to the doc repo loses the history, for what gain? You

Re: RFC: removal of share/doc/{papers,psd,smm,usd} in 2 months

2012-10-20 Thread Ulrich Spörlein
On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 09:24:33 -0700, Gregory Shapiro wrote: Ulrich Sprlein wrote this message on Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 16:36 +0200: those roff sources have been very naughty and will be removed from the tree by the end of the year. Most of those papers are severely out of date and

Re: RFC: removal of share/doc/{papers,psd,smm,usd} in 2 months

2012-10-20 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Ulrich =?utf-8?B?U3DDtnJsZWlu?= wrote: On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 12:14:28 -0400, Eitan Adler wrote: On 19 October 2012 10:36, Ulrich Spörlein u...@freebsd.org wrote: Should people feel strongly about them, we might be able to move them over to the doc repository. Moving them to the doc

Re: RFC: removal of share/doc/{papers,psd,smm,usd} in 2 months

2012-10-20 Thread Ulrich Spörlein
On Sat, 2012-10-20 at 14:24:28 +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Ulrich =?utf-8?B?U3DDtnJsZWlu?= wrote: On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 12:14:28 -0400, Eitan Adler wrote: On 19 October 2012 10:36, Ulrich Spörlein u...@freebsd.org wrote: Should people feel strongly about them, we might be able to

RFC: removal of share/doc/{papers,psd,smm,usd} in 2 months

2012-10-19 Thread Ulrich Spörlein
Hi all, those roff sources have been very naughty and will be removed from the tree by the end of the year. Most of those papers are severely out of date and provide no more use to the system. They can probably also be found online using a search engine of your choice. Should people feel

Re: RFC: removal of share/doc/{papers,psd,smm,usd} in 2 months

2012-10-19 Thread Mark Blackman
On 19 Oct 2012, at 15:36, Ulrich Spörlein u...@freebsd.org wrote: Hi all, those roff sources have been very naughty and will be removed from the tree by the end of the year. Most of those papers are severely out of date and provide no more use to the system. They can probably also be

Re: RFC: removal of share/doc/{papers,psd,smm,usd} in 2 months

2012-10-19 Thread Matthew Jacob
On 10/19/2012 7:45 AM, Mark Blackman wrote: On 19 Oct 2012, at 15:36, Ulrich Spörlein u...@freebsd.org wrote: Hi all, those roff sources have been very naughty and will be removed from the tree by the end of the year. Most of those papers are severely out of date and provide no more use to

Re: RFC: removal of share/doc/{papers,psd,smm,usd} in 2 months

2012-10-19 Thread John-Mark Gurney
Ulrich Sprlein wrote this message on Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 16:36 +0200: those roff sources have been very naughty and will be removed from the tree by the end of the year. Most of those papers are severely out of date and provide no more use to the system. They can probably also be found online

Re: RFC: removal of share/doc/{papers,psd,smm,usd} in 2 months

2012-10-19 Thread Konstantin Belousov
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 08:55:42AM -0700, John-Mark Gurney wrote: Ulrich Sprlein wrote this message on Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 16:36 +0200: those roff sources have been very naughty and will be removed from the tree by the end of the year. Most of those papers are severely out of date and

Re: RFC: removal of share/doc/{papers,psd,smm,usd} in 2 months

2012-10-19 Thread Eitan Adler
On 19 October 2012 10:36, Ulrich Spörlein u...@freebsd.org wrote: Should people feel strongly about them, we might be able to move them over to the doc repository. Moving them to the doc repo loses the history, for what gain? You mention that the roff sources are 'naughty'. Are they holding up

Re: RFC: removal of share/doc/{papers,psd,smm,usd} in 2 months

2012-10-19 Thread Gregory Shapiro
Ulrich Sprlein wrote this message on Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 16:36 +0200: those roff sources have been very naughty and will be removed from the tree by the end of the year. Most of those papers are severely out of date and provide no more use to the system. They can probably also be

Re: RFC: removal of share/doc/{papers,psd,smm,usd} in 2 months

2012-10-19 Thread Joel Dahl
On 19-10-2012 16:36, Ulrich Spörlein wrote: Hi all, those roff sources have been very naughty and will be removed from the tree by the end of the year. Most of those papers are severely out of date and provide no more use to the system. They can probably also be found online using a search

Re: RFC: removal of share/doc/{papers,psd,smm,usd} in 2 months

2012-10-19 Thread Marcin Cieslak
Ulrich Spörlein u...@freebsd.org wrote: Hi all, those roff sources have been very naughty and will be removed from the tree by the end of the year. Most of those papers are severely out of date and provide no more use to the system. They can probably also be found online using a search

Re: RFC: removal of share/doc/{papers,psd,smm,usd} in 2 months

2012-10-19 Thread Julian H. Stacey
I guess the real bug is that we've been installing these, but never referencing them, or telling users where they could find them... I.e. in man vi: ``An Introduction to Display Editing with Vi'', found in the ``UNIX User's Manual Supplementary Documents'' section of both