.. then:
* test out pkgng on FreeBSD-9.x and provide as much feedback as you can;
* help test out massive deployment, upgrade and auditing scenarios -
exactly the kinds of things which cloud using people need. Installing
1 boxes is difficult. Auditing, upgrading and integrating services
on 10,
2012/5/21 Jamie
> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:57:33AM +0200, Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav wrote:
> > No, they're not. VMWare, RHEV (KVM-based) etc. provide features such as
> > seamless migration of virtual machines from one physical machine to
> > another, automatic restart on a different physical serve
i am sure the linux weenie troll is sufficiently fed by now.
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schrieb Jamie :
> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:57:33AM +0200, Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav wrote:
> > No, they're not. VMWare, RHEV (KVM-based) etc. provide features
> > such as seamless migration of virtual machines from one physical
> > machine to another, automatic res
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:57:33AM +0200, Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav wrote:
> No, they're not. VMWare, RHEV (KVM-based) etc. provide features such as
> seamless migration of virtual machines from one physical machine to
> another, automatic restart on a different physical server if one fails
> etc. that
> -Original Message-
> From: Dag-Erling Smørgrav [mailto:d...@des.no]
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 9:48 AM
> To: Oleg Moskalenko
> Cc: Jamie; Vincent Hoffman; Vance Siemens; Rick Macklem; freebsd-
> c...@freebsd.org; freebsd-current@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: FreeB
Oleg Moskalenko writes:
> Modern large-scale virtualization technologies are based upon
> bare-metal versions of VMWare and XenServer. They are not Linux and
> they are not FreeBSD
AFAIK, RHEV is KVM on top of RHEL.
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> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10 prognostication...
>
> Jamie writes:
> > Jails are usually more suited to "cloud work" than KVM or the latest
> > OpenVZ/Containers/??? of the linux world ever will be...
>
> No, th
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 04:42:12PM -0400, Rick Macklem wrote:
> Well, I worked for a computer science dept. for 30years and it seemed
> to go something like this:
> - Undergrad installs "toy" version of Linux on their desktop/laptop,
> likes it and promotes it to their friends.
> - When these stu
Jamie writes:
> Jails are usually more suited to "cloud work" than KVM or the latest
> OpenVZ/Containers/??? of the linux world ever will be...
No, they're not. VMWare, RHEV (KVM-based) etc. provide features such as
seamless migration of virtual machines from one physical machine to
another, aut
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 04:42:12PM -0400, Rick Macklem wrote:
> Jamie wrote:
> > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 07:20:18PM -0400, Vance Siemens wrote:
> > > Eh, sorry. I got excited at the prospect of downloading FreeBSD from
...
> Well, I worked for a computer science dept. for 30years and it seemed
> to
Jamie wrote:
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 07:20:18PM -0400, Vance Siemens wrote:
> > Eh, sorry. I got excited at the prospect of downloading FreeBSD from
> > the App Store and having the installer "just work" in a modern GUI.
> > You have to admit, FreeBSD is lacking in this area. It would be a
> > bo
Maybe there is some truth to this. FreeBSD uses use clang, Apple's
compiler, since FreeBSD 9:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2012-May/067486.html.
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Matthew Jacob wrote:
> On 5/12/2012 6:25 AM, Vance Siemens wrote:
>>
>> Can you share a brief ove
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 07:20:18PM -0400, Vance Siemens wrote:
> Eh, sorry. I got excited at the prospect of downloading FreeBSD from
> the App Store and having the installer "just work" in a modern GUI.
> You have to admit, FreeBSD is lacking in this area. It would be a
> boon.
Personally, I woul
Arlen Cuss writes:
> "Troll" *is* right there in the name!
Yes, thank you, we hadn't noticed. Good thing you were there to set us
straight.
Oh, and please learn to quote.
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, 2012 8:23 PM
To: Vance Siemens
Cc: Dag-Erling Smørgrav; freebsd-current@freebsd.org; freebsd-c...@freebsd.org;
Vincent Hoffman
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10 prognostication...
What, 8bit color ANSI isn't GUI enough?
But seriously, it feels like it works even worse then it did a decade ago.
Rick H
> > >
> > > Umm, it's about as factual as The Onion, except not as funny. FreeBSD
> > > never had to "jettison two thirds of its code base and start from
> > > scratch". Apple is not involved in FreeBSD development. No Mac OS X or
> > > Darwin version "includes" FreeBSD. FreeBSD and Mac OS X will
What, 8bit color ANSI isn't GUI enough?
But seriously, it feels like it works even worse then it did a decade ago.
Rick Hamell
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On May 17, 2012, at 4:20 PM, "Vance Siemens" wrote:
> Eh, sorry. I got excited at the prospect of downloading FreeBSD from
> the App Store and hav
Eh, sorry. I got excited at the prospect of downloading FreeBSD from
the App Store and having the installer "just work" in a modern GUI.
You have to admit, FreeBSD is lacking in this area. It would be a
boon.
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 7:18 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> Vance Siemens writes:
>>
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 4:57 AM, Chuck Burns wrote:
> You guys DO realize that's a troll website, right? And you're being
> seriously trolled.. right?
>
The URL is legit! This is noes trollz!
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On 5/16/2012 6:02 PM, Outback Dingo wrote:
Guess his next claim will be that the kernel was forked from minix,
and userland came from QNX... some people are just plain
(biting my tongue)
You guys DO realize that's a troll website, right? And you're being
seriously trolled.. right
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Thomas Mueller wrote:
> Umm, it's about as factual as The Onion, except not as funny. FreeBSD
> never had to "jettison two thirds of its code base and start from
> scratch". Apple is not involved in FreeBSD development. No Mac OS X or
> Darwin version "includes"
Umm, it's about as factual as The Onion, except not as funny. FreeBSD
never had to "jettison two thirds of its code base and start from
scratch". Apple is not involved in FreeBSD development. No Mac OS X or
Darwin version "includes" FreeBSD. FreeBSD and Mac OS X will never
merge. FreeBSD was n
Vance Siemens writes:
> Can you share a brief overview of what's wrong with it?
Umm, it's about as factual as The Onion, except not as funny. FreeBSD
never had to "jettison two thirds of its code base and start from
scratch". Apple is not involved in FreeBSD development. No Mac OS X or
Darwin
On 5/12/2012 6:25 AM, Vance Siemens wrote:
Can you share a brief overview of what's wrong with it? I guess I'm
not as knowledgeable as I thought. The story was quite enticing to me.
Very few of the historical facts are actually correct.
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Can you share a brief overview of what's wrong with it? I guess I'm
not as knowledgeable as I thought. The story was quite enticing to me.
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:13 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> Vincent Hoffman writes:
>> Vance Siemens writes:
>> > http://www.trollaxor.com/2012/05/freebsd-
Am 03.05.2012 06:31, schrieb Vance Siemens:
> Can't say that I wouldn't look forward to this, but it sounds a little off:
>
> http://www.trollaxor.com/2012/05/freebsd-x-berkeley-unix-apple-quality.html
>
> What do others think?
Looks like the author was just one month late with his April's fool
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Vance Siemens wrote:
> Can't say that I wouldn't look forward to this, but it sounds a little off:
>
> http://www.trollaxor.com/2012/05/freebsd-x-berkeley-unix-apple-quality.html
>
> What do others think?
ROTFL. Thank you for the laughs. That was slashdot's "Netcra
On 03.05.2012 05:31, Vance Siemens wrote:
Can't say that I wouldn't look forward to this, but it sounds a
little off:
http://www.trollaxor.com/2012/05/freebsd-x-berkeley-unix-apple-quality.html
What do others think?
--Vance
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On 05/03/12 06:31, Vance Siemens wrote:
> Can't say that I wouldn't look forward to this, but it sounds a little off:
>
> http://www.trollaxor.com/2012/05/freebsd-x-berkeley-unix-apple-quality.html
>
> What do others think?
>
> --Vance
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On Thu, May 03, 2012 at 12:31:12AM -0400, Vance Siemens wrote:
> Can't say that I wouldn't look forward to this, but it sounds a little off:
>
> http://www.trollaxor.com/2012/05/freebsd-x-berkeley-unix-apple-quality.html
>
> What do others think?
Please leave trollaxor on Kuro5hin or slashdot wh
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