Re: X problems 5.0... -RELEASE?

2002-10-19 Thread Eric Anholt
On Sun, 2002-10-13 at 23:00, Eric Anholt wrote: On Sun, 2002-10-13 at 21:14, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 11:28:51PM -0400, Wesley Morgan wrote: I know there is some work being done on the recent signal changes to fix some things, but are we sure this is the problem? I

Re: X problems 5.0... -RELEASE?

2002-10-19 Thread Juli Mallett
* De: Eric Anholt [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ Data: 2002-10-19 ] [ Subjecte: Re: X problems 5.0... -RELEASE? ] From the reports: Both stable and current users get the self-healing hang, where the X server responds to nothing but the mouse moves, and at some minutes later time it continues

Re: X problems 5.0... -RELEASE?

2002-10-19 Thread Wesley Morgan
On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, Juli Mallett wrote: Note that during these, mp3s keep playing, gtk-gnutella keeps downloading things, etc., it seems X just isn't updating the display... Even a resize of a sizable gtk frame I did while it was frozen took affect when it unfroze... Have you tried loggign

Re: X problems 5.0... -RELEASE?

2002-10-19 Thread Marc Recht
Note that during these, mp3s keep playing, gtk-gnutella keeps downloading things, etc., it seems X just isn't updating the display... Even a resize But, it's not always so. For me most of the time everything stops. Including playing mp3s/oggs, resizing windows and so on. And after some time

Re: X problems 5.0... -RELEASE?

2002-10-19 Thread Juli Mallett
* De: Marc Recht [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ Data: 2002-10-19 ] [ Subjecte: Re: X problems 5.0... -RELEASE? ] Note that during these, mp3s keep playing, gtk-gnutella keeps downloading things, etc., it seems X just isn't updating the display... Even a resize But, it's not always so. For me

Re: X problems 5.0... -RELEASE?

2002-10-15 Thread Bruce Evans
On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Steve Kargl wrote: On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 12:39:26PM +1000, Tim Robbins wrote: On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 01:00:46PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: [...] Did anyone test -current with the various FP test suites people posted about last week? I run some of them

Re: X problems 5.0... -RELEASE?

2002-10-15 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Tim Robbins writes: It's worth noting that 4.7-RELEASE (w/ gcc 2.95.4) fails *more* test cases than -CURRENT when -O is used to compile paranoia. Does 2.95.4 fail the same tests or different ones? Also, this program doesn't deal with signals, which is where I suspect the problem may

Re: X problems 5.0... -RELEASE?

2002-10-14 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Kris Kennaway writes: On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 11:28:51PM -0400, Wesley Morgan wrote: I know there is some work being done on the recent signal changes to fix some things, but are we sure this is the problem? I would hate to see release schedules pushed back because these problems

Re: X problems 5.0... -RELEASE?

2002-10-14 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On 13 Oct 2002 23:00:08 -0700 Eric Anholt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could anyone who is having stability issues with X please email me privately if they are using either -current before September or -stable? If not, without some sort of hints of where an issue really is, I'm going to chalk

Re: X problems 5.0... -RELEASE?

2002-10-14 Thread Nate Lawson
On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Andrew Gallatin wrote: Given that it (apparently) happens on X servers compiled months ago, my gut feeling is that it is a bug in the kernel floating point context save/restore in the presence of signals. I still can't run X without crashing the *kernel* because of the

Re: X problems 5.0... -RELEASE?

2002-10-14 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Nate Lawson writes: On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Andrew Gallatin wrote: Given that it (apparently) happens on X servers compiled months ago, my gut feeling is that it is a bug in the kernel floating point context save/restore in the presence of signals. I still can't run X without

Re: X problems 5.0... -RELEASE?

2002-10-14 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 01:58:26PM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: Nate Lawson writes: On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Andrew Gallatin wrote: Given that it (apparently) happens on X servers compiled months ago, my gut feeling is that it is a bug in the kernel floating point context

Re: X problems 5.0... -RELEASE?

2002-10-14 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Kris Kennaway writes: I think we're all waiting for Julian and Jonathan Mini to fix this.. It would probably help if they had some sort of a test program that could duplicate the bug in a controlled setting without a lot of confusing application software running.. Did anyone

Re: X problems 5.0... -RELEASE?

2002-10-14 Thread Tim Robbins
On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 01:00:46PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: [...] Did anyone test -current with the various FP test suites people posted about last week? Yes. I ran paranoia from http://cm.bell-labs.com/netlib/paranoia/ and found that FP arithmethic is satisfactory when -O is not used, and

Re: X problems 5.0... -RELEASE?

2002-10-14 Thread Steve Kargl
On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 12:39:26PM +1000, Tim Robbins wrote: On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 01:00:46PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: [...] Did anyone test -current with the various FP test suites people posted about last week? Yes. I ran paranoia from http://cm.bell-labs.com/netlib/paranoia/

X problems 5.0... -RELEASE?

2002-10-13 Thread Wesley Morgan
The last tentative date for 5.0-RELEASE I have seen is late November, early December... This does seem odd since I haven't seen a DP2, but... Quite a few people seem to be having serious problems with XFree86 for 3-4 weeks, everything from sig 6's, the bezier crashes, to strange freezes that

Re: X problems 5.0... -RELEASE?

2002-10-13 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 11:28:51PM -0400, Wesley Morgan wrote: I know there is some work being done on the recent signal changes to fix some things, but are we sure this is the problem? I would hate to see release schedules pushed back because these problems are lost in the noise, and I

Re: X problems 5.0... -RELEASE?

2002-10-13 Thread Wesley Morgan
On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 11:28:51PM -0400, Wesley Morgan wrote: I know there is some work being done on the recent signal changes to fix some things, but are we sure this is the problem? I would hate to see release schedules pushed back because

Re: X problems 5.0... -RELEASE?

2002-10-13 Thread Terry Lambert
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 11:28:51PM -0400, Wesley Morgan wrote: I know there is some work being done on the recent signal changes to fix some things, but are we sure this is the problem? I would hate to see release schedules pushed back because these problems are lost

Re: X problems 5.0... -RELEASE?

2002-10-13 Thread Eric Anholt
On Sun, 2002-10-13 at 21:14, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 11:28:51PM -0400, Wesley Morgan wrote: I know there is some work being done on the recent signal changes to fix some things, but are we sure this is the problem? I would hate to see release schedules pushed back