can a wrong alignment cause a decrease in a hdd's life expectancy?

2011-12-19 Thread Alexander Best
hi there, i'm using a usb hdd with the following specs: otaku% sudo smartctl -i /dev/da0 smartctl 5.42 2011-10-20 r3458 [FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT amd64] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-11 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: Wes

Re: can a wrong alignment cause a decrease in a hdd's life expectancy?

2011-12-19 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <20111219221617.ga70...@freebsd.org>, Alexander Best writes: >ps: the hdd only gets mounted read-only! There is no known wear-effects in flash storage as long as you only read. You may need to do refresh-writes every 5-10 years to avoid tunnel-leakage bit errors, but most flash contro

Re: can a wrong alignment cause a decrease in a hdd's life expectancy?

2011-12-19 Thread Matthew Jacob
Putting it better: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory#Read_disturb ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: can a wrong alignment cause a decrease in a hdd's life expectancy?

2011-12-19 Thread Alexander Best
On Mon Dec 19 11, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <20111219221617.ga70...@freebsd.org>, Alexander Best writes: > > >ps: the hdd only gets mounted read-only! > > There is no known wear-effects in flash storage as long as you > only read. > > You may need to do refresh-writes every 5-10 year

Re: can a wrong alignment cause a decrease in a hdd's life expectancy?

2011-12-19 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <20111219224700.ga75...@freebsd.org>, Alexander Best writes: >On Mon Dec 19 11, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >> In message <20111219221617.ga70...@freebsd.org>, Alexander Best writes: >> >> >ps: the hdd only gets mounted read-only! >> >> There is no known wear-effects in flash storage as l

Re: can a wrong alignment cause a decrease in a hdd's life expectancy?

2011-12-19 Thread Alexander Best
On Mon Dec 19 11, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <20111219224700.ga75...@freebsd.org>, Alexander Best writes: > >On Mon Dec 19 11, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >> In message <20111219221617.ga70...@freebsd.org>, Alexander Best writes: > >> > >> >ps: the hdd only gets mounted read-only! > >>

Re: can a wrong alignment cause a decrease in a hdd's life expectancy?

2011-12-19 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <20111219225633.ga77...@freebsd.org>, Alexander Best writes: >no problem. so will the improper alignment also not cause a life expectancy >shortage in case of a hdd (non-flash-based)? Well, theoretically you will have more track-to-track seeks, as some blocks will span cylinders, but I

Re: can a wrong alignment cause a decrease in a hdd's life expectancy?

2011-12-19 Thread Matthew Jacob
On 12/19/2011 2:22 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message<20111219221617.ga70...@freebsd.org>, Alexander Best writes: ps: the hdd only gets mounted read-only! There is no known wear-effects in flash storage as long as you only read. No, sorry, that's not really true. ___

Re: can a wrong alignment cause a decrease in a hdd's life expectancy?

2011-12-19 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <4eefb9f3.80...@feral.com>, Matthew Jacob writes: >On 12/19/2011 2:22 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >> In message<20111219221617.ga70...@freebsd.org>, Alexander Best writes: >> >>> ps: the hdd only gets mounted read-only! >> There is no known wear-effects in flash storage as long as you >

Re: can a wrong alignment cause a decrease in a hdd's life expectancy?

2011-12-19 Thread Alexander Best
On Mon Dec 19 11, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 10:56:33PM +, Alexander Best wrote: > > On Mon Dec 19 11, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > > In message <20111219224700.ga75...@freebsd.org>, Alexander Best writes: > > > >On Mon Dec 19 11, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > > >> In messa

Re: can a wrong alignment cause a decrease in a hdd's life expectancy?

2011-12-19 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 03:20:10PM -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 10:56:33PM +, Alexander Best wrote: > > On Mon Dec 19 11, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > > In message <20111219224700.ga75...@freebsd.org>, Alexander Best writes: > > > >On Mon Dec 19 11, Poul-Henning Kamp

Re: can a wrong alignment cause a decrease in a hdd's life expectancy?

2011-12-19 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 10:56:33PM +, Alexander Best wrote: > On Mon Dec 19 11, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > In message <20111219224700.ga75...@freebsd.org>, Alexander Best writes: > > >On Mon Dec 19 11, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > >> In message <20111219221617.ga70...@freebsd.org>, Alexander

Re: can a wrong alignment cause a decrease in a hdd's life expectancy?

2011-12-19 Thread Warren Block
On Mon, 19 Dec 2011, Alexander Best wrote: no problem. so will the improper alignment also not cause a life expectancy shortage in case of a hdd (non-flash-based)? and one other question: the hdd also supports usb 3. will the improper alignment have any effect (speed wise) when connected via us