Re: entropy bikesheds

2001-01-12 Thread Nate Williams
> Can we decide this, please - do we want secure startup (which will > take some effort to achieve), or can we say "screw it" and start > insecure like the old system? Can we have both? Ie; by default we are insecure until some point we call an ioctl() that says 'no more, you must get real rando

Re: entropy bikesheds

2001-01-12 Thread Mark Murray
> Start some kind of hardware-managed timer at the earliest possible > opportunity (perhaps start it in the boot loader!), then when you need to > pick up your first seed, read the timer's value and seed your random > generator from that. I have some much more sophisticated code (written by JHB)

Re: entropy bikesheds

2001-01-11 Thread Nate Dannenberg
Mark Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can we decide this, please - do we want secure startup (which will > take some effort to achieve), or can we say "screw it" and start > insecure like the old system? > > I'm happy to accomodate folks, but the constant lack of concensus > combined with ext

Re: entropy bikesheds

2001-01-11 Thread Mark Murray
Doug Barton said: > Since this post actually has some content I'm moving it to > -current. Cool! > > Our /var isn't persistant accross boots, btw. It is a mfs file > > system. Having a requirement that /var contain persistant data would > > likely lead to problems. > > It's precis

Re: entropy bikesheds

2001-01-11 Thread Doug Barton
On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, David O'Brien wrote: > On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 03:00:35PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: > > Since this post actually has some content I'm moving it to > > -current. > > > > On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > > I agree. RO / is absoultely *REQUIRED* for our appli

Re: entropy bikesheds

2001-01-11 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 03:00:35PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: > Since this post actually has some content I'm moving it to > -current. > > On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Warner Losh wrote: > > > I agree. RO / is absoultely *REQUIRED* for our application. > > As stated, all concerned are sympa

entropy bikesheds

2001-01-11 Thread Doug Barton
Since this post actually has some content I'm moving it to -current. On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Warner Losh wrote: > I agree. RO / is absoultely *REQUIRED* for our application. As stated, all concerned are sympathetic to that. This is why it's configurable. > we have > a small, writ