Re: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-25 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 10:02:44PM +0100, Brian Somers wrote: > > This aside, I think there are more bits required for the patches :*1 > > rc.conf.5 needs to be updated - that's the easy bit. Done - see attached. > I think we also need a src/etc/ppp/ppp.conf that installs with 0600 > permissi

Re: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-08 Thread Hellmuth Michaelis
>From the keyboard of Boris Staeblow: > >> Why is rc.conf readable by world?! > > > >Why not? > > What about that: > > spppconfig_isp0="authproto=chap myauthname=foo myauthsecret='top secret' > hisauthname=some-gw hisauthsecret='another secret'" I'm not quite satisfied with the way the passwor

Re: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Ville-Pertti Keinonen
Alex Zepeda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Why is rc.conf readable by world?! > > > > Why not? > > What reason would the rest of the "world" have to read rc.conf? It could > only create a possible security risk. Unix systems are typically designed the other way around - don't read-protect

Re: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Mike Smith
> > > What reason would the rest of the "world" have to read rc.conf? It could > > > only create a possible security risk. > > > > This is shabby reasoning. rc.conf contains public system configuration > > data, which may need to be consumed by non-root processes. > > What kind of non-root pr

Re: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Alex Zepeda
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > Why is rc.conf readable by world?! > > > > > > Why not? > > > > What reason would the rest of the "world" have to read rc.conf? It could > > only create a possible security risk. > > This is shabby reasoning. rc.conf contains public system config

Re: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Mike Smith
> > > Why is rc.conf readable by world?! > > > > Why not? > > What reason would the rest of the "world" have to read rc.conf? It could > only create a possible security risk. This is shabby reasoning. rc.conf contains public system configuration data, which may need to be consumed by non-roo

Re: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 01:00:46PM +0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > On 07-Jul-99 Ladavac Marino wrote: > > sysinstall drops you into ppp and you have to use the term > command to log in manually. Ahha, it's not quite as bad as that. sysinstall asks you some questions and writes a p

Re: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 10:02:44PM +0100, Brian Somers wrote: > > Ha, and you thought it'd be straight forward ;^P > ;b just time mate :) I'm off on holiday on Saturday, until the next Sunday. Day off work on the Monday. If I don't get it tied up before I go I'll finish it on my return. Joe -

Re: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Boris Staeblow
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 Keith Stevenson wrote: >> Why is rc.conf readable by world?! > > >Why not? What about that: spppconfig_isp0="authproto=chap myauthname=foo myauthsecret='top secret' hisauthname=some-gw hisauthsecret='another secret'" Boris -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boris Staeblow To Unsu

Re: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Alex Zepeda
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Keith Stevenson wrote: > On Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 01:19:02PM -0700, Alex Zepeda wrote: > > On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Ladavac Marino wrote: > > > > > [ML] You do not really want these on the command line for > > > everyone to see with ps. (nor in rc.conf for everyone to see with e

Re: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Brian Somers
> On Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 08:59:41PM +0100, Brian Somers wrote: > > [-current cc'd - please don't make this a big thread !] > > /etc/start_if.tun0 with an ``exec ppp ...''. This starts things up > > at the correct point. > > > > However, maybe it's time for a knob in rc.conf ? Something like >

Re: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Keith Stevenson
On Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 01:19:02PM -0700, Alex Zepeda wrote: > On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Ladavac Marino wrote: > > > [ML] You do not really want these on the command line for > > everyone to see with ps. (nor in rc.conf for everyone to see with e.g. > > cat) > > Why is rc.conf readable by world?!

RE: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Alex Zepeda
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Ladavac Marino wrote: > [ML] You do not really want these on the command line for > everyone to see with ps. (nor in rc.conf for everyone to see with e.g. > cat) Why is rc.conf readable by world?! - alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscr

Re: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Alex Zepeda
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Josef Karthauser wrote: > Hmm... how to do this then? The sppp setup code in rc.* allows > username/password to be specified. Can it be done in the environment > then? (If rc.conf is visable then the sppp config gives usernames and > passwords away as it stands today.) Eve

RE: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On 07-Jul-99 Ladavac Marino wrote: >> It does :) That said doesn't sysinstall using ppp to do a net >> install? >> How does it setup username/password, etc. > [ML] It asks for it in a dialog box, IIRC (never having used it >:) sysinstall drops you into ppp and you have to use the

RE: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Ladavac Marino
> -Original Message- > From: Josef Karthauser [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 1:22 PM > To: Ladavac Marino > Cc: Brian Somers; Mark Thomas; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wayne > Self > Subject: Re: userland ppp - startup > > On Wed,

Re: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 12:20:35PM +0200, Ladavac Marino wrote: > [ML] Don't know about sppp, but the only halfway secure way to > keep this sensitive data is in a file readable by root, and having the > program which needs it setuid root. Sounds a lot like > /etc/ppp/ppp.conf, doesn't it?

RE: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Ladavac Marino
> -Original Message- > From: Josef Karthauser [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 11:53 AM > To: Ladavac Marino > Cc: Brian Somers; Mark Thomas; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wayne > Self > Subject: Re: userland ppp - startup > > On Wed,

Re: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 11:46:27AM +0200, Ladavac Marino wrote: > > > Something like this should do it. It may be nice to also allow the > > authname/authkey to be specified on the command line so that they > > can easily be set in rc.conf, by hand or by sysinstall. > > > [ML] You do not

RE: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Ladavac Marino
> -Original Message- > From: Josef Karthauser [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 11:38 AM > To: Brian Somers > Cc: Mark Thomas; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wayne Self > Subject: Re: userland ppp - startup > > Something like this should d

Re: userland ppp - startup

1999-07-07 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 08:59:41PM +0100, Brian Somers wrote: > [-current cc'd - please don't make this a big thread !] > /etc/start_if.tun0 with an ``exec ppp ...''. This starts things up > at the correct point. > > However, maybe it's time for a knob in rc.conf ? Something like > > ppp_enab