Re: ijppp for isdn, ppp compression, and netgraph (also: load balancing)

2000-03-05 Thread Julian Elischer
Hellmuth Michaelis wrote: From the keyboard of Juergen Lock: And the other reason i'm looking at ijppp is ppp compression. It currently supports deflate (rfc1979) and predictor1 (rfc1978), which should at least help if the other end is running bsd or linux, but if your other end is

Re: Copy-on-write filesystem

2000-03-05 Thread sthaug
Imagine: cp file file2, file and file2 reference the same exact blocks, but modified chunks of file2 would be given their own private blocks. This is not a microsoft innovation, actually, I believe it was a VMS innovation. It's called a generational filesystem. the original is stored,

Re: ijppp for isdn, ppp compression, and netgraph (also: load balancing)

2000-03-05 Thread Hellmuth Michaelis
From the keyboard of Julian Elischer: today... impressive stuff.) and is someone working on linking i4b and netgraph? There will be a netgraph node interface which will link an i4b B-channel to netgraph. There are no plans from my side to netgraphify the D-channel part of i4b.

Re: Onstream?

2000-03-05 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matthew Jacob writes: : I gave up on supporting it- too much work for too little gain, IMO. The same thing happened on the IDE side of things. Even with Soren's hacks, I never could get it to work well. It worked as well as one

Re: ijppp for isdn, ppp compression, and netgraph (also: load balancing)

2000-03-05 Thread Brian Somers
[.] Currently i'm using ppp instead of mppd mostly just because it supports deflate compression. I had a look at both mppd and ppp to see how the mentioned free stac compression would be integrateable and found them both similar, given they both come from iijppp. It looks like if it were

Re: Onstream?

2000-03-05 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Alan Batie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got an onstream scsi tape drive only to discover that I should've checked the archives because it don't work. Depends on the drive. If you got an Echo drive (SCxx), you're right. The ADR drives--yes, they all use ADR tape technology, but confusingly

Re: Copy-on-write filesystem

2000-03-05 Thread Louis A. Mamakos
Imagine: cp file file2, file and file2 reference the same exact blocks, but modified chunks of file2 would be given their own private blocks. This is not a microsoft innovation, actually, I believe it was a VMS innovation. It's called a generational filesystem. the original is

Re: empty lists in for

2000-03-05 Thread W Gerald Hicks
bash and ksh complain about unexpected ';'. /bin/sh (FreeBSD) thinks it's ok and does nothing. Which behaviour is more POSIXly correct? Neither bash nor ksh claim to be particularly POSIX compliant. our /bin/sh does. I seem to remember POSIX being ambiguous on this one, but my

Re: ijppp for isdn, ppp compression, and netgraph (also: load balancing)

2000-03-05 Thread Juergen Lock
On Sun, Mar 05, 2000 at 12:31:30AM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: Hellmuth Michaelis wrote: From the keyboard of Juergen Lock: And the other reason i'm looking at ijppp is ppp compression. It currently supports deflate (rfc1979) and predictor1 (rfc1978), which should at least

Removing zombie kernel threads

2000-03-05 Thread Zhihui Zhang
I have created several kernel threads that can die after being idle for a while. I did this by copying the kthread_create() funtion from CURRENT over to FreeBSD 3.3-Release. Is there a way to remove the zombie threads after they die or prevent them from creating? Any potential problems in trying

Re: empty lists in for

2000-03-05 Thread John Polstra
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Doug Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given that Bash in both standard and POSIX mode complains about 'for i in ; do echo $i; done', I would say that it's not POSIX compatible. What could/does depend on this behavior "working?" It works for the realistic

Re: empty lists in for

2000-03-05 Thread Doug Barton
John Polstra wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Doug Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given that Bash in both standard and POSIX mode complains about 'for i in ; do echo $i; done', I would say that it's not POSIX compatible. What could/does depend on this behavior "working?"

Re: empty lists in for

2000-03-05 Thread W Gerald Hicks
From: Doug Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: empty lists in for Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 11:39:49 -0800 W Gerald Hicks wrote: bash and ksh complain about unexpected ';'. /bin/sh (FreeBSD) thinks it's ok and does nothing. Which behaviour is more POSIXly correct? Neither

Re: empty lists in for

2000-03-05 Thread John Polstra
Doug Barton wrote: Agreed on all counts. By "this behavior" I was referring to the example. Yep -- I was agreeing with you. :-) John To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: empty lists in for

2000-03-05 Thread Doug Barton
W Gerald Hicks wrote: Even though it's my preferred shell, I certainly wouldn't say that Bash is any sort of standard, certainly not in the POSIX sense. Well, one of Chet's stated goals is to be as POSIX as possible. I agree that letting the standard speak for itself is a better

Re: empty lists in for

2000-03-05 Thread W Gerald Hicks
From: Doug Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Polstra already pointed this out, and Bash handles this like you would expect. There is a difference between expanding an empty list and trying to expand a list that isn't there. Convince me that nothing like the following exists in the ports

Re: empty lists in for

2000-03-05 Thread Doug Barton
W Gerald Hicks wrote: To me, changing it right now on the eve of -release would be gratuitous. Later I would be fine with it. I still prefer /bin/sh being able to handle an empty literal list but would yield to the desires of others. I think you misunderstand me. I'm not

Re: empty lists in for

2000-03-05 Thread Martin Cracauer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Polstra wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Doug Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given that Bash in both standard and POSIX mode complains about 'for i in ; do echo $i; done', I would say that it's not POSIX compatible. What could/does depend on this