On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 07:19:06PM -0700, Alex Belits wrote:
> It is. However if you look at the current efforts of its "adoption", it
>is not used as one. It's touted as the solution to all language-related
>problems, as a replacement of language/charset labeling infrastructure
>and as the neces
On 05-Apr-00 Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
> "Nicole Harrington." wrote:
>>
>> Heh... I tried to CVSUP to 4.0-STABLE and mistakenly chose 4.0-current in
>> the
>> pkg_setup... I wound up with a very nice 5.0-CURRENT machine... Chose 3.X
>> and
>> that is also what you get... You have to set /etc/cvs
On Wed, 05 Apr 2000, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
> Richard Wackerbarth wrote:
> > In the case of FreeBSD, when you change the release status ...
> Feel free to change CVS to work that way and then submit patches.
But that IS the way CVS works. There is NO "STABLE" tag. The tag is
"RELENG_4".
If you
"Nicole Harrington." wrote:
>
> Heh... I tried to CVSUP to 4.0-STABLE and mistakenly chose 4.0-current in the
> pkg_setup... I wound up with a very nice 5.0-CURRENT machine... Chose 3.X and
> that is also what you get... You have to set /etc/cvsup manually to RELENG_4 at
> the moment.
Don't you
Richard Wackerbarth wrote:
>
> In the case of FreeBSD, when you change the release status ...
Feel free to change CVS to work that way and then submit patches.
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* Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000404 19:59] wrote:
> :>
> :> I'll look at that tonight. But before I do -- why is it broken?
> :> (the name sorta implies that it us ;)
> :
> :I'm not sure, i did it a while back and ran out of time to get it
> :working, it functions in the strategy layer
Regardless of how you feel about Unicode--whatever, just think of how
horribly terrible things would be if people actually had to *speak* to one
another.
gah, the torture.
;-)
Dan
gh
> On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, G. Adam Stanislav wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 05:05:05PM -0700, Alex Belits wrote
Mike Smith wrote:
> Go back to the module if this is for 4.x;
I originally asked about making a network driver module for 3.4.
I was hoping for either a "here's how you do it" or at least an "it's
not possible with 3.4" response...
> > Now this is a common codebase for this driver, which compi
:>
:> I'll look at that tonight. But before I do -- why is it broken?
:> (the name sorta implies that it us ;)
:
:I'm not sure, i did it a while back and ran out of time to get it
:working, it functions in the strategy layer and tries to grab adjacent
:commit blocks to the already clustered IO.
On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, G. Adam Stanislav wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 05:05:05PM -0700, Alex Belits wrote:
> > The existing "market" of multilingual application is so small, and it's
> >based on so simplistic requirements (to be able to display and print
> >characters, and make multilingual "we
> Since I received exactly ZERO responses to my plea for help in making
> my network device driver a loadable module, I'm now trying to compile
> my driver into the kernel.
Go back to the module if this is for 4.x; I don't recall your original
post, sorry, but feel free to pass it back off the
On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 05:05:05PM -0700, Alex Belits wrote:
> The existing "market" of multilingual application is so small, and it's
>based on so simplistic requirements (to be able to display and print
>characters, and make multilingual "web pages"), that even solution so much
>flawed as stand
On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 05:08:56PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
>Of course, it still remains to be seen if having Unicode support on the
>console is a Good Thing(TM).
I don't see how it would be even possible, due to hardware limitations.
The console can only support an 8-bit font (I mean 8-bi
On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 12:08:39PM -0700, Alex Belits wrote:
> I don't want to be misunderstood as the opponent of all things Unicode
>-- as I have said, its support is useful. However I oppose:
>
>1. The point of view that Unicode is the only possible or the best
>possible way to handle multilin
On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, Alex Belits wrote:
> > You mean, MIME multipart documents are better than Unicode if I, for instance,
> > want to handle Tolstoy's "War and Peace" with French quotes in the middle of
> > Russian sentences?
> >
> > I don't think so.
>
> This is what multipart format exis
On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, Anatoly Vorobey wrote:
> You mean, MIME multipart documents are better than Unicode if I, for instance,
> want to handle Tolstoy's "War and Peace" with French quotes in the middle of
> Russian sentences?
>
> I don't think so.
This is what multipart format exists for --
On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
> I don't understand what possible benefit there is in having *NO*
> options to deal with all the language-characters in the world. Even
> if unicode isn't perfect, it is a damn sight better than nothing.
The existing "market" of multilingual appli
| First, I made up a makefile and got my driver compiling cleanly
| standalone in my directory. So the code is known good with respect
| to compiling under FreeBSD with gcc. Then I moved the code under
| the /sys hierarchy, fixed up my configuration file, and did a 'config'
| for my kernel. So
You, Alex Belits, were spotted writing this on Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 11:03:58AM -0700:
>
> On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, G. Adam Stanislav wrote:
>
> > At 20:59 03-04-2000 -0700, Alex Belits wrote:
> > > I feel perfectly fine with "multilingual" documents that contain English
> > >and Russian text without
Since I received exactly ZERO responses to my plea for help in making
my network device driver a loadable module, I'm now trying to compile
my driver into the kernel.
First, I made up a makefile and got my driver compiling cleanly
standalone in my directory. So the code is known good with resp
At 5:08 PM +0300 4/4/00, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> ... I have found myself in the need to write in English,
>Modern Greek (one accent), and Ancient Greek (many accents). This
>is not possible using 8-bit fonts, since the glyphs for the accented
>ancient greek alone are much more than 128.
>
>Of
On Mon, Apr 03, 2000 at 08:59:51PM -0700, Alex Belits wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, G. Adam Stanislav wrote:
>
> > > Really the question is much more basic -- who benefits from
> > > having Unicode (or Unicode in the form of UTF-8) support. It
> > > isn't me for sure
> >
> > Everyone who works w
At 1:17 AM +1000 4/5/00, Patryk Zadarnowski wrote:
> > > I have just asked, who will benefit from it. No one answered
> > > "I will" -- everyone who makes Unicode support believes that it
> > > will benefit someone else.
> >
> > I thought I did. OK, let me restate: I will! I actually do already
>
* Andrew Gallatin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000404 14:25] wrote:
>
> Alfred Perlstein writes:
> > >
> > > Can anybody tell me if doing something like this is fundamentally
> > > broken? Is it worth pursuing?
> >
> > http://www.freebsd.org/~alfred/nfs_supercommit_broken.diff
> >
> > only gra
Alfred Perlstein writes:
> >
> > Can anybody tell me if doing something like this is fundamentally
> > broken? Is it worth pursuing?
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/~alfred/nfs_supercommit_broken.diff
>
> only grab as many adjacent blocks as possible, you don't want to
> scan the entire fi
Alex Belits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have just asked, who will benefit from it. No one answered "I will" --
I WILL.
I want to be able to mention Henry Charri{e grave}re and
Stanis{l stroke}aw Lem in a single document and spell those names
correctly. Actually, that's a real world example
* Andrew Gallatin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000404 14:03] wrote:
>
> Currently FreeBSD issues a very large number of NFSv3 commit rpcs when
> writing a sequential file. They average out to about one every 64k or
> so. Solaris, on the other hand, issues only a handful.
>
> At least when running agai
In the last episode (Apr 04), Andrew Gallatin said:
>
> Currently FreeBSD issues a very large number of NFSv3 commit rpcs
> when writing a sequential file. They average out to about one every
> 64k or so. Solaris, on the other hand, issues only a handful.
Hmm. Mounting a Solaris box and creat
Currently FreeBSD issues a very large number of NFSv3 commit rpcs when
writing a sequential file. They average out to about one every 64k or
so. Solaris, on the other hand, issues only a handful.
At least when running against a Solaris NFS server, these
frequent commits really kill our write b
On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, G. Adam Stanislav wrote:
> At 22:51 03-04-2000 -0700, Alex Belits wrote:
> > I agree that Unicode created a good list of glyphs, and it can be
> >useful for fonts and conversion tables, but it's completely inappropriate
> >as the base of format used in real-life applications
On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, G. Adam Stanislav wrote:
> At 20:59 03-04-2000 -0700, Alex Belits wrote:
> > I feel perfectly fine with "multilingual" documents that contain English
> >and Russian text without Unicode.
>
> Those are bilingual, not multilingual. I once had to create a document in
> English
!! Before someone shouts at me: I know this is not a FS list
But I know some folks were looking for FDDI cards to use on their
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On 04-Apr-00 Ted Sikora wrote:
> I wanted to upgrade several production servers to 4.0 and follow the
> stable branch. Has 4.0-STABLE been established yet or is stable still
> RELENG_3? I planned on installing 4.0-RELEASE and then using CVSup with
> RELENG_4.
>
> --
> Ted Sikora
> Jtl Developme
On Tue, 04 Apr 2000, Ted Sikora wrote:
> I wanted to upgrade several production servers to 4.0 and follow the
> stable branch. Has 4.0-STABLE been established yet or is stable still
> RELENG_3? I planned on installing 4.0-RELEASE and then using CVSup with
> RELENG_4.
Ignore "STABLE" and "CURRENT
On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Alex Belits wrote:
| On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, G. Adam Stanislav wrote:
|
| > > Really the question is much more basic -- who benefits from having
| > >Unicode (or Unicode in the form of UTF-8) support. It isn't me for sure
| >
| > Everyone who works with multilingual documents.
I wanted to upgrade several production servers to 4.0 and follow the
stable branch. Has 4.0-STABLE been established yet or is stable still
RELENG_3? I planned on installing 4.0-RELEASE and then using CVSup with
RELENG_4.
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Jtl Development Group
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> > I have just asked, who will benefit from it. No one answered "I will" --
> >everyone who makes Unicode support believes that it will benefit someone
> >else.
>
> I thought I did. OK, let me restate: I will! I actually do already because
> I did some work and it is in the ports.
OK, I didn
At 22:51 03-04-2000 -0700, Alex Belits wrote:
> I agree that Unicode created a good list of glyphs, and it can be
>useful for fonts and conversion tables, but it's completely inappropriate
>as the base of format used in real-life applications for storage and
>communications.
Oh, I think it's gre
You, Alex Belits, were spotted writing this on Mon, Apr 03, 2000 at 08:59:51PM -0700:
> > >-- I am Russian.
> >
> > So?
>
> So I don't want UTF-8 to be forced on me.
Noone is trying to force UTF-8 on you.
In fact, userland support of UTF-8 can (and should IMHO) be based around
an environme
You, Alex Belits, were spotted writing this on Mon, Apr 03, 2000 at 03:23:42PM -0700:
> On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, MikeM wrote:
>
> > Has anyone thought of Unicode support on FreeBSD?
>
> Really the question is much more basic -- who benefits from having
> Unicode (or Unicode in the form of UTF-8)
Alex Belits wrote:
> > Anyone who has anything to do with the Internet must deal with UTF-8:
> > "Protocols MUST be able to use the UTF-8 charset, which consists of the ISO
> > 10646 coded character set combined with the UTF-8 character encoding
> > scheme, as defined in [10646] Annex R (publish
Sheldon Hearn writes:
>
>Hi folks,
>
>The following patch to the 5.0-CURRENT sources allows the installkernel
>target to install multiple kernels. Given the following in
>/etc/make.conf:
>
> KERNEL= AXL AXLOPT GENERIC
>
>the installkernel target would install:
>
> AXL -> /ker
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