On Sun, 24 Dec 2000, Wes Peters wrote:
> > To be pedantic, you only need to provide source for works derived
> > from GPL'd software which in this case means the kernel propper. User
> > land applications and device drivers may be shipped in binary-only
> > form because they are separate works, e
Drew Eckhardt wrote:
>
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, admin@bsdfan
> .cncdsl.com writes:
> >Here's the thing about open software that still concerns me. My
> >background is with the major software development tools companies, so
> >that is my point of reference. It is great that code is availa
Marco van de Voort wrote:
>
> [Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...]
> > > Trouble is there is no consistency in the rulings.
> >
> > United States Code Title 17 Chapter 12 Section 1201 Subsection (f)
> >
> > My basic interpretation of this is, if you legally own a copy of the
>
Matt Dillon wrote:
>
> In that respect, I personally will not run anything inside my kernel that
> I don't have source for. Now, I don't run frame-relay or T1's into
> FreeBSD boxes, so I'm not commenting on your software specifically. I'm
> commenting in general. The problem i
Drew Eckhardt wrote:
>
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> m writes:
> >Yes but most commercial uses take advantage of the binary distribution
> >capability of the BSD license AFTER they've poured their corporate dollars
> >into enhancements. With linux you have to give your wor
Name calling is starting to backfire on the Linux community and there
is no reason to drag the 'BSD community down the same path. Some of
the journalist in the Linux world are realizing the amount of energy
being wasted slamming MS and anything non-Linux. New comers to Linux
are getting intimida
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> Thank you for your attention.
>
> Next month I'm giving a talk about the evils of SSH.
> The talk schedule is posted on:
> http://www.svbug.com/events/
> I've already circulated this message to the OpenBSD
> 'tech' mailing list and the NetBSD 'security' mailing
> lis
On the same token, I have tried to get a (possibly used) 2.88 MB Floppy
drive for some time. It seems to me that even though all floppy
controllers support these babies, nobody makes them. There are one or two
places that seem to offer old supplies, but to ridiculous prices. FreeBSD
comes with a
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From: "Rik van Riel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Murray Stokely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux, Solaris, and NT
> On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Murray Stokely wrote:
>
> > I want to create a
Hi.
Thanks for the suggestion on the fuse. There is in fact a fuse, 125v
3A, direct line fuse soldered to the mb. After checking around for
continuity around the plug this was easy to find. I grabbed an old 486,
soldered off a working one, then back to the p133. Voila! Thanks for all
of t
On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Murray Stokely wrote:
> I want to create a comprehensive body of knowledge that can
> then be used to make fliers to hand out to Linux weenies at
^
> trade shows, published on bsdi.com and/or freebsd.org, etc..
Haha
On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 09:22:46PM +0100, Alexander Langer wrote:
>Would you share the .sgml file with us? We maybe could also solve the
>problem why CHAPTER isn't allowed.
Thanks for the offer, but I have since rewritten it in HTML, so I no
longer have the .sgml file.
Adam
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At 2:11 AM -0800 12/23/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>On 22 Dec, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
> > People in the "FreeBSD community" are invited to read the
>> rambling and pointless discussions that this sparked in
>> the OpenBSD and NetBSD communities before repeating all
>> those arguments in all
Hi,
Have you added the scbus and da devices? I think you need them, seeing the
cam_xxx stuff undefined.
--Rink
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Hello,
I'm having a problem with what seems to be the DPT raid card driver
in FreeBSD 4.2 RELEASE.
I've tried several times switching off options and finally I switched
off the DPT driver all together so that I could just see if the
kernel would com
One big difference of the P4 is the SSE2 instructions and
registers. It's now reasonable to ignore the old floating point
stack altogether, and do floating point work with the SSE
register file, getting the SIMD speed up where that's useful.
(Because sse can now do doubles as well as floats.)
Ho
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Alexander Langer writes:
: How can the if_ed driver work on FreeBSD/Alpha, if it uses kvtop(),
: but kvtop() is only defined in sys/i386/i386/vm_machdep.c?
I don't think it can.
Warner
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Thus spake G. Adam Stanislav ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> swap space and memory even on a tiny little file. I have 8 Meg of
> RAM and successfully run Photoshop, CorelDraw and other huge programs.
> Yet, a simple file conversion program runs out of memory? Besides,
> it claims CHAPTER is not permitted
On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 03:37:43PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Thank you for your attention.
>
> Next month I'm giving a talk about the evils of SSH.
> The talk schedule is posted on:
> http://www.svbug.com/events/
> I've already circulated this message to the OpenBSD
> 'tech' mailing list
On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 09:35:13AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
>Most likely a result of a bug in the msdosfs code,
Quite possible.
> perhaps you can
>help track it down? I don't use msdosfs. :(
I'll try...
Adam
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Jeremiah Gowdy wrote:
>
> > Trouble is there is no consistency in the rulings.
>
> United States Code Title 17 Chapter 12 Section 1201 Subsection (f)
>
> My basic interpretation of this is, if you legally own a copy of the
> software (firmware is software), you can legally reverse engineer the
Marco van de Voort wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 03:33:15PM -0800, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> > very happily run on Pentium 4 CPU's.
> >
> > Or am I raving again? :) Feel free to correct any gross errors I've made :)
>
> Afaik yes :-)
>
> IIRC the problem is that P4 reports itself back as fa
You are clueless as to the effect of your word choices.
Thank you for reading that.
Please note that I am not writing this to flame, but in
an attempt to be helpful ;-)
At 15:37 2000-12-22 -0800 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Thank you for your attention.
Your subject line got my attention, b
SteveB wrote:
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 9:54 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Sitting on hands (no longer Re: FreeBSD vs
> > Linux, Solaris,
> > and NT)
> >
> > >In the open source
> >
Dennis wrote:
>
> Source is more of a "hassle", binary loads right up. the SNMP package is a
> great example. Doing it from source is a nightmare. Missing includes, wrong
> paths. compile failures. The package loads right up and Im running.
This is an example of why the build environment must be
Mike Smith wrote:
>
> > Mike Smith wrote:
> > >
> > > > Is there now support for the Pentium 4 in FreeBSD??
> > >
> > > We've always run on the P4.
> > >
> > > > If so, is there an option such as CPUCLASS 786 in the Kernel??
> > >
> > > No, it's still a 686.
> >
> > Basically, there are 3 possibl
On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 02:00:54AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > It is possible. It is not trivial.
> >
> What leads you to believe that it's not trival?
A functioning brain.
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> I've already circulated this message to the OpenBSD
> 'tech' mailing list and the NetBSD 'security' mailing
> list.
Indeed. Please ignore him, he's a troll.
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Hello!
I have a question:
How can the if_ed driver work on FreeBSD/Alpha, if it uses kvtop(),
but kvtop() is only defined in sys/i386/i386/vm_machdep.c?
I'm very confused, and I wonder if someone can enlighten me, please.
Thanks
Alex
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> On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 03:33:15PM -0800, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> > > The Linux issue was actually more stupid than that; Linux won't run on a
> > > CPU it doesn't recognise. FreeBSD will only refuse to run on a CPU it
> > > recognises as incapable (since that is a much smaller set).
> >
> >
On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 03:33:15PM -0800, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> > The Linux issue was actually more stupid than that; Linux won't run on a
> > CPU it doesn't recognise. FreeBSD will only refuse to run on a CPU it
> > recognises as incapable (since that is a much smaller set).
>
> actually, back
On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 10:51:49PM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 08:52:52AM -0800, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> > > Hey.
> > >
> > > Did anybody suceed with fd1720 flopies ? I couldn't write any single
> > > 1720K image there.
> >
> > you must fdformat /dev/fd0.1720 (check sy
On 23 Dec 2000, at 2:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On 23 Dec, Dan Langille wrote:
> > On 23 Dec 2000, at 13:25, David Preece wrote:
> >
> >> At 15:37 22/12/00 -0800, you wrote:
> >>
> >> >The question asked is: why you believe ssh is beter
> >> >than say telnet. Or what advantages SSH has in g
On 22 Dec, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 01:25:11PM +1300, David Preece wrote:
>> At 15:37 22/12/00 -0800, you wrote:
>>
>> >The question asked is: why you believe ssh is beter
>> >than say telnet. Or what advantages SSH has in general.
>>
>> Sorry, don't have time to reply to
Mr Clark,
Could I trouble you to use your comments in my talk?
Jessem.
On 22 Dec, Crist J. Clark wrote:
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>
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> | NOT FEED | | THANK |
> | THE TROLLS | | Y
On 22 Dec, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
> At 3:37 PM -0800 12/22/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>Thank you for your attention.
>>
>>Next month I'm giving a talk about the evils of SSH.
>>The talk schedule is posted on:
>>http://www.svbug.com/events/
>>I've already circulated this message to the OpenB
On 22 Dec, Chris BeHanna wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Dec 2000, David Preece wrote:
>
>> At 15:37 22/12/00 -0800, you wrote:
>>
>> >The question asked is: why you believe ssh is beter than say
>> >telnet. Or what advantages SSH has in general.
>>
>> Sorry, don't have time to reply to this properly.
>>
On 23 Dec, Dan Langille wrote:
> On 23 Dec 2000, at 13:25, David Preece wrote:
>
>> At 15:37 22/12/00 -0800, you wrote:
>>
>> >The question asked is: why you believe ssh is beter
>> >than say telnet. Or what advantages SSH has in general.
>>
>> Sorry, don't have time to reply to this properly
On 22 Dec, Chris Costello wrote:
> On Friday, December 22, 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Thank you for your attention.
>>
>> Next month I'm giving a talk about the evils of SSH.
>
>If you don't know anything about it, why do you claim it's
> evil?
>
I don't know if I've claimed eithe
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