Re: Difference between RELENG_* and RELENG_*_BP

2002-05-03 Thread Dave Hayes
Brooks Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DO NOT EVEN CONSIDER STARTING THIS THREAD!!! It's been hashed Double gah. Forget I said anything. ;) However, just ranting about this problem[0] won't accomplish anything other then wasting a lot of time and energy, IMO. There's plenty of historic

Re: network design

2002-05-03 Thread andrew mejia
--- Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terry Lambert wrote: Unfortunately, the FreeBSD ethernet interface isn't terribly smart. Ideally, it would provide a virtual interface per VIP, all the way down to the card; it doesn't. Probably wasn't very clear here. The Tigon II, for

netatalk - sharing UNIX to Mac clients

2002-05-03 Thread andrew mejia
anyone ever configure/install/use netatalk on their BSD/Solaris machines? i'm trying to share out two 200gb plus raid arrays to a Mac LAN and will accept any information that can be offered. thanks! __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need

RFC on my SHM tunings for multiple jailed postgres...

2002-05-03 Thread Patrick Thomas
I have a large server that will be running ~24 jails, 8 of which will be running their own postgres server. Because of this fact: By default, Postgres allocates 34 semaphores, which is over half the default system total of 60. I need to tune kernel SHM settings in order to even run the second

Re: netatalk - sharing UNIX to Mac clients

2002-05-03 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* andrew mejia [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020503 00:37] wrote: anyone ever configure/install/use netatalk on their BSD/Solaris machines? i'm trying to share out two 200gb plus raid arrays to a Mac LAN and will accept any information that can be offered. 1) This doesn't belong on -hackers. 2)

Re: RFC on my SHM tunings for multiple jailed postgres...

2002-05-03 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Patrick Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020503 00:38] wrote: I have a large server that will be running ~24 jails, 8 of which will be running their own postgres server. You should be aware of the kern.ipc.shm_use_phys sysctl, you might want to try flipping it on if you encounter problems as it

Re: network design

2002-05-03 Thread Bill Fumerola
[ this is probably more appropriate for -net, -hackers bcc:'d ] On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 08:35:01AM +0100, andrew mejia wrote: [andrew]$ exactly what i would suggest. a single NIC can handle multiple assigments pretty easily, unless you're expecting mega-traffic. but even then you could

A time resolution problem

2002-05-03 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
Hello hackers, I am trying to write a simple C program that must do some specialized things. The idea is that the program must send packets each T seconds. Ok, I know.. use the sleep, microsleep things, and it works pretty well if the interval is greater than 1 msec. (recompiled the kernel

Re: A time resolution problem

2002-05-03 Thread Dominic Marks
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 01:52:02PM +0200, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: Hello hackers, I am trying to write a simple C program that must do some specialized things. The idea is that the program must send packets each T seconds. Ok, I know.. use the sleep, microsleep things, and it works

Re: bug in pw, freebsd 4.5

2002-05-03 Thread Geoffrey C. Speicher
On Thu, 2 May 2002, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: Well, the stab didn't go because nobody was interested 8-) Sorry --- I was interested, but I didn't see your original message. This problem has been biting me (and a client) in the ass for quite some time. I actually had in mind some

Re: netatalk - sharing UNIX to Mac clients

2002-05-03 Thread Bob Bishop
Hi, At 08:37 03/05/02 +0100, andrew mejia wrote: anyone ever configure/install/use netatalk on their BSD/Solaris machines? We run netatalk on both FreeBSD 4.x and Solaris 8. By and large it 'just works'. Build with gcc 2.95 (not 3.x) to avoid problems on Solaris. -- Bob Bishop

Re: Difference between RELENG_* and RELENG_*_BP

2002-05-03 Thread Brian T . Schellenberger
On Friday 03 May 2002 02:37 am, Dave Hayes wrote: | | | All this dovetails with something I expressed earlier, with regards to | annotating documentation. Somehow, this community needs to be able to | process a certan class of ideas in a format other than linear mailing | lists. Perhaps some sort

Re: Adaptec 2903b SCSI card

2002-05-03 Thread Justin T. Gibbs
It appears that there is no support for the Adaptec 2903b SCSI card, but of course I could be wrong. I would like to get this card to work, so if anyone could point me to a painfully obvious url or some documentation on how to get it to work that I have clearly overlooked, I would be forever

RE: CPU context switching/load numbers

2002-05-03 Thread John Baldwin
On 03-May-2002 Jason Borkowsky wrote: Greetings! I have a FreeBSD-4.5 box that is a specialized server box. It doesn't run any user processes and only runs a bunch of small, server efficient processes. I have an inconsistency that I am trying to explain. When I do a w command on

Re: A time resolution problem

2002-05-03 Thread Manish Jain
hi, one possible solution could be to use gettimeofday (usec resolution ) and do a busy wait in a loop for T sec. manish http://www.cis.udel.edu/~jain On Fri, 3 May 2002, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: Hello hackers, I am trying to write a simple C program that must do some specialized things.

GETTY + KDM + SYSLOGD errors !!

2002-05-03 Thread Vishwas
Hello All: I have pasted the error messages am getting on my FreeBSD-4.5-RELEASE machine. I have attached the /etc/ttys file with the mail, I hope that will be useful for the analysis since I have modified it for /dev/ttyv8 -- KDM FOLLOWING is the error message what am getting

Re: Difference between RELENG_* and RELENG_*_BP

2002-05-03 Thread Michael Sierchio
Brian T.Schellenberger wrote: The existance of this thread merely demonstrates that people don't make use the resources that are already out there. No, the existence of this thread demonstrates that the historical explanation is less than satisfying as an excuse for the broken nomenclature

Re: RFC on my SHM tunings for multiple jailed postgres...

2002-05-03 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Patrick Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020503 07:19] wrote: So kern.ipc.shm_use_phys=1 will give me more flexibility, but will slow down performance (vs. using kernel memory) ? It will not cause any problems unless you don't have enough memory. -- -Alfred Perlstein [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

RE: CPU context switching/load numbers

2002-05-03 Thread Jason Borkowsky
Greetings! I have a FreeBSD-4.5 box that is a specialized server box. It doesn't run any user processes and only runs a bunch of small, server efficient processes. I have an inconsistency that I am trying to explain. When I do a w command on the box, I see this:

Re: A time resolution problem

2002-05-03 Thread Terry Lambert
Dominic Marks wrote: On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 01:52:02PM +0200, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: Now the problem is that I want to know if it is possible, and how, to schedule events with a precision greater (or equal to)) than 1ms. Maybe an approach with posix timers? Maybe move the app into

Re: Difference between RELENG_* and RELENG_*_BP

2002-05-03 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Fri, 3 May 2002 09:15:01 -0400 Brian T.Schellenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTS Stable is, in fact, fairly stable. I mean, if you are going to track updates I would go so far as to say that -stable is remarkably stable. So much so that it is easily mistaken for some kind of

Re: Difference between RELENG_* and RELENG_*_BP

2002-05-03 Thread JJ Behrens
heavily snipped All this dovetails with something I expressed earlier, with regards to annotating documentation. Somehow, this community needs to be able to process a certan class of ideas in a format other than linear mailing lists. Perhaps some sort of meta-document is needed which

Re:organic documentation

2002-05-03 Thread Terry Lambert
JJ Behrens wrote: The online documentation for PHP allows users to post comments at the end of every page of the online documentation. Often times, these comments serve to enlighten others about various quirks of the libraries. Perhaps doing the same thing with the FreeBSD handbook pages

Re:organic documentation

2002-05-03 Thread R. David Murray
On Fri, 3 May 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: Aside from the classification problem (everyone has to classify the same way for them to be able to get the information out), the human factors argue that the depth should not exceed 3 on any set of choices, before you get to what you want (HCI studies

Re: organic documentation

2002-05-03 Thread David Schultz
Thus spake R. David Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 3 May 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: Aside from the classification problem (everyone has to classify the same way for them to be able to get the information out), the human factors argue that the depth should not exceed 3 on any set of

Re: A time resolution problem

2002-05-03 Thread Thierry Herbelot
Paolo Di Francesco wrote: [SNIP] 1 msec. (recompiled the kernel with HZ=10) in my experience, compiling a kernel with HZ greater than 10.000 (ten thousand) is uselesss (I even had crash with greater HZ) TfH [SNIP] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

RE: A time resolution problem

2002-05-03 Thread igor_dorovskoy
That's right, agree 100%. I hadn't crash, but this fine granularity hard to realize while other parts of system taking apart unpredictably. More to fix than to use... Igor, ua3qrz -Original Message- From: Thierry Herbelot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 5:18 PM To:

Serial flow control

2002-05-03 Thread Aaron Angel
Hello; I have this quirky piece of serial equipment that I'm trying to figure out how to work. I'm attempting to write a simple program that sends a string of text given on the cmdline out to the serial port to a 132x80 ANSI(?) serial display The problem I think I'm having is with hardware flow

Re: Difference between RELENG_* and RELENG_*_BP

2002-05-03 Thread Lou Katz
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 11:15:58AM -0700, JJ Behrens wrote: The online documentation for PHP allows users to post comments at the end of every page of the online documentation. Often times, these comments serve to enlighten others about various quirks of the libraries. Perhaps doing the

deltas for sys/kern/vfs_syscalls.c and sys/kern/vfs_subr.c

2002-05-03 Thread Hiten Pandya
Hi all, I am submitting a patch which removes the register keyword from sys/kern/vfs_syscalls.c. The reason I am doing this is very simple. The 'register' keyword has no effect, as compilers do enough optimizations on their own. Also, I have seen commits made before which do the same thing

Re: deltas for sys/kern/vfs_syscalls.c and sys/kern/vfs_subr.c

2002-05-03 Thread Bosko Milekic
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 10:45:32PM +0100, Hiten Pandya wrote: Hi all, I am submitting a patch which removes the register keyword from sys/kern/vfs_syscalls.c. The reason I am doing this is very simple. The 'register' keyword has no effect, as compilers do enough optimizations on their

Re: A time resolution problem

2002-05-03 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
Paolo Di Francesco wrote: [SNIP] 1 msec. (recompiled the kernel with HZ=10) in my experience, compiling a kernel with HZ greater than 10.000 (ten thousand) is uselesss (I even had crash with greater HZ) TfH Yes, I had the same problem (4,4 stable and the same updated to

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Re: organic documentation

2002-05-03 Thread Bakul Shah
Terry Lambert writes: JJ Behrens wrote: The online documentation for PHP allows users to post comments at the end o f every page of the online documentation. Often times, these comments serve to enlighten others about various quirks of the libraries. Perhaps doing the same thing

Re: organic documentation

2002-05-03 Thread Terry Lambert
Bakul Shah wrote: Aside from the classification problem (everyone has to classify the same way for them to be able to get the information out), the human factors argue that the depth should not exceed 3 on any set of choices, before you get to what you want (HCI studies at Bell Labs

Re: Difference between RELENG_* and RELENG_*_BP

2002-05-03 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Fri, May 03, 2002 at 11:15:58AM -0700, JJ Behrens wrote: The online documentation for PHP allows users to post comments at the end of every page of the online documentation. Often times, these comments serve to enlighten others about various quirks of the libraries.

Re: organic documentation

2002-05-03 Thread Terry Lambert
R. David Murray wrote: Sorry for dropping in to the middle of a conversation, but this comment puzzles me. I fail to see how: handbook + per-page comments from readers is *inferior* to: handbook with no comments given that the handbook maintainers do not have infinate time to

Re: organic documentation

2002-05-03 Thread Bakul Shah
Terry Lambert writes: Bakul Shah wrote: Aside from the classification problem (everyone has to classify the same way for them to be able to get the information out), the human factors argue that the depth should not exceed 3 on any set of choices, before you get to what you want (HCI

Re: PnP OS Problem

2002-05-03 Thread Michael Smith
itself (since it likes to). FreeBSD does not have code to handle assigning PNP resources, or at least code that works well :) (There is the PNPBIOS kernel option, but I'm not sure that works anymore.) The PNPBIOS option just implements another accessor method; resource allocation is a