Re: naive i386 && FreeBSD interrupt question

2002-05-03 Thread Michael Smith
> > This was -stable- but it's really a hacker's question. > > I really am *not* much of an i386 weenie and I'll have to admit that I don't > fully understand the interrupt mask scheme and I ran into a troubling problem > . > > I was running some very extensive tests on a dual processor (but no

Re: PnP OS Problem

2002-05-03 Thread Michael Smith
> itself (since it likes to). FreeBSD does not have code to handle > assigning PNP resources, or at least code that works well :) (There is the > PNPBIOS kernel option, but I'm not sure that works anymore.) The PNPBIOS option just implements another accessor method; resource allocation is a sep

Re: organic documentation

2002-05-03 Thread Bakul Shah
Terry Lambert writes: > Bakul Shah wrote: > > > Aside from the classification problem (everyone has to classify > > > the same way for them to be able to get the information out), > > > the human factors argue that the depth should not exceed 3 on > > > any set of choices, before you get to what y

Re: organic documentation

2002-05-03 Thread Terry Lambert
"R. David Murray" wrote: > Sorry for dropping in to the middle of a conversation, but this > comment puzzles me. I fail to see how: > > handbook + per-page comments from readers > > is *inferior* to: > >handbook with no comments > > given that the handbook maintainers do not have infina

Re: Difference between RELENG_* and RELENG_*_BP

2002-05-03 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Fri, May 03, 2002 at 11:15:58AM -0700, JJ Behrens wrote: > The online documentation for PHP allows users to post comments at the end of > every page of the online documentation. Often times, these comments serve to > enlighten others about various quirks of the libraries.

Re: organic documentation

2002-05-03 Thread Terry Lambert
Bakul Shah wrote: > > Aside from the classification problem (everyone has to classify > > the same way for them to be able to get the information out), > > the human factors argue that the depth should not exceed 3 on > > any set of choices, before you get to what you want (HCI studies > > at Bell

Re: organic documentation

2002-05-03 Thread Bakul Shah
Terry Lambert writes: > JJ Behrens wrote: > > The online documentation for PHP allows users to post comments at the end o > f > > every page of the online documentation. Often times, these comments serve > to > > enlighten others about various quirks of the libraries. Perhaps doing the > same

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Re: A time resolution problem

2002-05-03 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
> Paolo Di Francesco wrote: > > > [SNIP] > > 1 msec. (recompiled the kernel with HZ=10) > > > > in my experience, compiling a kernel with HZ greater than 10.000 (ten > thousand) is uselesss (I even had crash with greater HZ) > > TfH > Yes, I had the same problem (4,4 stable and the same

Re: deltas for sys/kern/vfs_syscalls.c and sys/kern/vfs_subr.c

2002-05-03 Thread Bosko Milekic
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 10:45:32PM +0100, Hiten Pandya wrote: > Hi all, > > I am submitting a patch which removes the register keyword from > sys/kern/vfs_syscalls.c. The reason I am doing this is very simple. > > The 'register' keyword has no effect, as compilers do enough optimizations > on

deltas for sys/kern/vfs_syscalls.c and sys/kern/vfs_subr.c

2002-05-03 Thread Hiten Pandya
Hi all, I am submitting a patch which removes the register keyword from sys/kern/vfs_syscalls.c. The reason I am doing this is very simple. The 'register' keyword has no effect, as compilers do enough optimizations on their own. Also, I have seen commits made before which do the same thing w

Serial flow control

2002-05-03 Thread Aaron Angel
Hello; I have this quirky piece of serial equipment that I'm trying to figure out how to work. I'm attempting to write a simple program that sends a string of text given on the cmdline out to the serial port to a 132x80 ANSI(?) serial display The problem I think I'm having is with hardware flow

RE: A time resolution problem

2002-05-03 Thread igor_dorovskoy
That's right, agree 100%. I hadn't crash, but this fine granularity hard to realize while other parts of system taking apart unpredictably. More to fix than to use... Igor, ua3qrz -Original Message- From: Thierry Herbelot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 5:18 PM To:

Re: Difference between RELENG_* and RELENG_*_BP

2002-05-03 Thread Lou Katz
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 11:15:58AM -0700, JJ Behrens wrote: > > The online documentation for PHP allows users to post comments at the end of > every page of the online documentation. Often times, these comments serve to > enlighten others about various quirks of the libraries. Perhaps doing the

Re: A time resolution problem

2002-05-03 Thread Thierry Herbelot
Paolo Di Francesco wrote: > [SNIP] > 1 msec. (recompiled the kernel with HZ=10) > in my experience, compiling a kernel with HZ greater than 10.000 (ten thousand) is uselesss (I even had crash with greater HZ) TfH [SNIP] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubsc

Re: organic documentation

2002-05-03 Thread David Schultz
Thus spake R. David Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Fri, 3 May 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Aside from the classification problem (everyone has to classify > > the same way for them to be able to get the information out), > > the human factors argue that the depth should not exceed 3 on > > any

Re:organic documentation

2002-05-03 Thread R. David Murray
On Fri, 3 May 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: > Aside from the classification problem (everyone has to classify > the same way for them to be able to get the information out), > the human factors argue that the depth should not exceed 3 on > any set of choices, before you get to what you want (HCI stud

Re:organic documentation

2002-05-03 Thread Terry Lambert
JJ Behrens wrote: > The online documentation for PHP allows users to post comments at the end of > every page of the online documentation. Often times, these comments serve to > enlighten others about various quirks of the libraries. Perhaps doing the same > thing with the FreeBSD handbook pages

Re: Difference between RELENG_* and RELENG_*_BP

2002-05-03 Thread JJ Behrens
> All this dovetails with something I expressed earlier, with regards to > annotating documentation. Somehow, this community needs to be able to > process a certan class of ideas in a format other than linear mailing > lists. Perhaps some sort of meta-document is needed which describes > how thin

Re: A time resolution problem

2002-05-03 Thread Terry Lambert
Dominic Marks wrote: > On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 01:52:02PM +0200, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: > > Now the problem is that I want to know if it is possible, and > > how, to schedule events with a precision greater (or equal to)) > > than 1ms. Maybe an approach with posix timers? Maybe move the app > >

RE: CPU context switching/load numbers

2002-05-03 Thread Jason Borkowsky
> >> > Greetings! I have a FreeBSD-4.5 box that is a specialized server box. It > >> > doesn't run any user processes and only runs a bunch of small, server > >> > efficient processes. > >> > > >> > I have an inconsistency that I am trying to explain. When I do a "w" > >> > command > >> > on the

Re: Difference between RELENG_* and RELENG_*_BP

2002-05-03 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Fri, 3 May 2002 09:15:01 -0400 Brian T.Schellenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: BTS> Stable is, in fact, fairly stable. I mean, if you are going to track updates I would go so far as to say that -stable is remarkably stable. So much so that it is easily mistaken for some kind of ma

Re: RFC on my SHM tunings for multiple jailed postgres...

2002-05-03 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Patrick Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020503 07:19] wrote: > > So kern.ipc.shm_use_phys=1 will give me more flexibility, but will slow > down performance (vs. using kernel memory) ? It will not cause any problems unless you don't have enough memory. -- -Alfred Perlstein [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 'In

Re: Difference between RELENG_* and RELENG_*_BP

2002-05-03 Thread Michael Sierchio
Brian T.Schellenberger wrote: > The existance of this thread merely demonstrates that people don't make use > the resources that are already out there. No, the existence of this thread demonstrates that the historical explanation is less than satisfying as an excuse for the broken nomenclature

GETTY + KDM + SYSLOGD errors !!

2002-05-03 Thread Vishwas
Hello All: I have pasted the error messages am getting on my FreeBSD-4.5-RELEASE machine. I have attached the /etc/ttys file with the mail, I hope that will be useful for the analysis since I have modified it for /dev/ttyv8 -- KDM FOLLOWING is the error message what am getting continuous

Re: A time resolution problem

2002-05-03 Thread Manish Jain
hi, one possible solution could be to use gettimeofday (usec resolution ) and do a busy wait in a loop for T sec. manish http://www.cis.udel.edu/~jain On Fri, 3 May 2002, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: > Hello hackers, > > I am trying to write a simple C program that must do some > specialized thin

RE: CPU context switching/load numbers

2002-05-03 Thread John Baldwin
On 03-May-2002 Jason Borkowsky wrote: > >> > Greetings! I have a FreeBSD-4.5 box that is a specialized server box. It >> > doesn't run any user processes and only runs a bunch of small, server >> > efficient processes. >> > >> > I have an inconsistency that I am trying to explain. When I do a "w

Re: RFC on my SHM tunings for multiple jailed postgres...

2002-05-03 Thread Patrick Thomas
So kern.ipc.shm_use_phys=1 will give me more flexibility, but will slow down performance (vs. using kernel memory) ? thanks, PT On Fri, 3 May 2002, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * Patrick Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020503 00:38] wrote: > > > > I have a large server that will be running ~24 jails

Re: Adaptec 2903b SCSI card

2002-05-03 Thread Justin T. Gibbs
>It appears that there is no support for the Adaptec 2903b SCSI card, but of >course I could be wrong. I would like to get this card to work, so if anyone >could point me to a painfully obvious url or some documentation on how to >get it to work that I have clearly overlooked, I would be forever

Re: Difference between RELENG_* and RELENG_*_BP

2002-05-03 Thread Brian T . Schellenberger
On Friday 03 May 2002 02:37 am, Dave Hayes wrote: | | | All this dovetails with something I expressed earlier, with regards to | annotating documentation. Somehow, this community needs to be able to | process a certan class of ideas in a format other than linear mailing | lists. Perhaps some sort

Re: netatalk - sharing UNIX to Mac clients

2002-05-03 Thread Bob Bishop
Hi, At 08:37 03/05/02 +0100, andrew mejia wrote: >anyone ever configure/install/use netatalk on their >BSD/Solaris machines? We run netatalk on both FreeBSD 4.x and Solaris 8. By and large it 'just works'. Build with gcc 2.95 (not 3.x) to avoid problems on Solaris. -- Bob Bishop

Re: bug in pw, freebsd 4.5

2002-05-03 Thread Geoffrey C. Speicher
On Thu, 2 May 2002, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > Well, the stab didn't go because nobody was interested 8-) Sorry --- I was interested, but I didn't see your original message. This problem has been biting me (and a client) in the ass for quite some time. > I actually had in mind some farther-r

Re: A time resolution problem

2002-05-03 Thread Dominic Marks
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 01:52:02PM +0200, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: > Hello hackers, > > I am trying to write a simple C program that must do some > specialized things. The idea is that the program must send > packets each T seconds. Ok, I know.. use the sleep, microsleep > things, and it work

A time resolution problem

2002-05-03 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
Hello hackers, I am trying to write a simple C program that must do some specialized things. The idea is that the program must send packets each T seconds. Ok, I know.. use the sleep, microsleep things, and it works pretty well if the interval is greater than 1 msec. (recompiled the kernel wi

Re: network design

2002-05-03 Thread Bill Fumerola
[ this is probably more appropriate for -net, -hackers bcc:'d ] On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 08:35:01AM +0100, andrew mejia wrote: > [andrew]$ exactly what i would suggest. a single > NIC can handle multiple assigments pretty easily, > unless you're expecting mega-traffic. but even then > you coul

Re: RFC on my SHM tunings for multiple jailed postgres...

2002-05-03 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Patrick Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020503 00:38] wrote: > > I have a large server that will be running ~24 jails, 8 of which will be > running their own postgres server. You should be aware of the kern.ipc.shm_use_phys sysctl, you might want to try flipping it on if you encounter problems as

Re: netatalk - sharing UNIX to Mac clients

2002-05-03 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* andrew mejia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020503 00:37] wrote: > anyone ever configure/install/use netatalk on their > BSD/Solaris machines? > > i'm trying to share out two 200gb plus raid arrays to > a Mac LAN and will accept any information that can be > offered. 1) This doesn't belong on -hackers.

RFC on my SHM tunings for multiple jailed postgres...

2002-05-03 Thread Patrick Thomas
I have a large server that will be running ~24 jails, 8 of which will be running their own postgres server. Because of this fact: By default, Postgres allocates 34 semaphores, which is over half the default system total of 60. I need to tune kernel SHM settings in order to even run the second

netatalk - sharing UNIX to Mac clients

2002-05-03 Thread andrew mejia
anyone ever configure/install/use netatalk on their BSD/Solaris machines? i'm trying to share out two 200gb plus raid arrays to a Mac LAN and will accept any information that can be offered. thanks! __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on

Re: network design

2002-05-03 Thread andrew mejia
--- Terry Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Terry Lambert wrote: > > Unfortunately, the FreeBSD ethernet interface > isn't terribly > > smart. Ideally, it would provide a virtual > interface per VIP, > > all the way down to the card; it doesn't. > > Probably wasn't very clear here. > > The