On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 04:44:46PM +1030, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
> On Wednesday 07 January 2004 16:35, Bernd Walter wrote:
> > Bad device - it would have been so easy add an single transitor to do
> > this automaticaly.
> > Nevertheless USB_UNCONFIG_NO can't help you here.
> > What you need to do i
On Wednesday 07 January 2004 16:35, Bernd Walter wrote:
> > There are certainly situations where you want to reenumerate the USB
> > devices, for example there are a number of devices which have no real
> > firmware - they expect to be programmed by the PC then reset and
> > reenumerated after bein
On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 04:05:15PM +1030, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
> On Tuesday 06 January 2004 18:47, Bernd Walter wrote:
> > > When setting a USB device to configuration number USB_UNCONFIG_NO (i.e.
> > > 0), the device goes into an unconfigured state with an invalid
> > > dev->cdesc. How does one
On Tuesday 06 January 2004 18:47, Bernd Walter wrote:
> > When setting a USB device to configuration number USB_UNCONFIG_NO (i.e.
> > 0), the device goes into an unconfigured state with an invalid
> > dev->cdesc. How does one then leave this unconfigured state and
> > reconfigure the device to acce
On Mon, Jan 05, 2004 at 01:52:50PM -0700, Brett Glass wrote:
> FreeBSD also keeps falling farther and farther behind Linux in the area
> of advocacy (and, hence, corporate adoption). Again, this is a governance
> issue. Many of the developers actually have an antipathy toward advocacy,
> since th
> At 20:31 06/01/2004, Mark Linimon wrote:
> >There are hundreds of PRs still to be processed that do have
> >patches -- in fact, on most days the backlog is getting bigger,
> >not smaller.
>
>Speaking of which... if there's one thing which could be done
> to improve committer / non-committer r
Brad Knowles wrote:
Define "us". You sure as hell aren't speaking for me.
Accepted. It came from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and therefore can only
represent my own opinion. But I know a lot of people who are looking at
deploying 5- who aren't just pissed off - they're *scared*. I don't
think many o
On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 06:47:13PM -0800, Nate Lawson wrote:
> I get a panic on my T23 due to the ATA driver not being detected so no
> rootvp.
Same here on a Dell Latitude C640.
Mark
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* Adil Katchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-01-06 17:01 -0500]:
> I don't follow, what do you mean?
A file with mode rwr-- owned by root:group1 could be read by
anyone who is not in group1.
Nicolas
Confusing quote:
> -Original Message-
> From: Nicolas Rachinsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I just have one comment... who gives a shit. Let this useless thread die.
William Michael Grim
Student, Southern Illinois University at Edwardsville
Unix Network Administrator, SIUE, Computer Science dept.
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Rahul Siddharthan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [is Bill Huey the troll?]
Does anybody seriously believe this? AFAIK, this came up in a heated
discussion on IRC, where someone accused him of being the troll and he
replied with a sarcastic affirmative. Some people who had previously
been witnesse
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Paul Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: Except, when Matt Dillon did submit, he was told to back out his changes
: and then lost his commit bit. This was because there was an "imminent
: commit" due from somebody working on SMP, which still isn't fi
* Bruce M Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-01-06 18:11 +]:
> On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 11:14:06AM -0500, Adil Katchi wrote:
> > I was just wondering if anyone has any ideas how it's possible for a user
> > that belongs to multiple groups to somehow limit his or her own capabilities
> > by using
At 20:31 06/01/2004, Mark Linimon wrote:
There are hundreds of PRs still to be processed that do have
patches -- in fact, on most days the backlog is getting bigger,
not smaller.
Speaking of which... if there's one thing which could be done
to improve committer / non-committer relations, it would
On Tue, 6 Jan 2004, Paul Robinson wrote:
> And therein lies a problem. The only thing any of the committers cares
> about is what they think. Got a problem? Submit a patch. Don't like the
> way things are done? Submit a patch. Don't like how such-and-such a util
> works? Submit a patch.
While i
On 5 Jan, Brett Glass wrote:
> It's probably one of the Slashdot "BSD is dead" trolls. The fact is, though,
> that there ARE things about FreeBSD that could stand improvement. These
> days, when I build a box, I am torn between using FreeBSD 5.x -- which is
> not ready for prime time but is at le
> -Original Message-
> From: Wes Peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 11:23 AM
> To: Munden, Randall J; Brett Glass; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Where is FreeBSD going?
>
>
> On Tuesday 06 January 2004 09:
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 11:14:06AM -0500, Adil Katchi wrote:
> I was just wondering if anyone has any ideas how it's possible for a user
> that belongs to multiple groups to somehow limit his or her own capabilities
> by using only one of the n groups that they belong to and be able to switch
> bet
Wes Peters wrote:
People who hate rarely require rational reasons for hating. Attempting to
apply logic to that which is not logical is not likely to produce useful
results.
Incorrect. Everybody who hates believes they have a rational reason for
doing so. That others do not think that those r
Munden, Randall J wrote:
Right, I typed that wrong. This conversation certainly isn't mud
slinging -- open, honest discussion can do nothing but good [no
matter the outcome].
The cleverness of the "troll" was:
1. It was written by somebody who at the least had read these lists for
at least th
"Munden, Randall J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This makes me wonder if it isn't time for a new -core.
No, just a better email filter.
DES
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On Tuesday 06 January 2004 09:05 am, Munden, Randall J wrote:
>
> Honestly, I picked up the troll thread because I'm curious as to
> why someone would commit so much time in effort to trolling
> these lists. In my experience it's a good idea to explore the
> reasoning behind that type of dedicatio
On Tue, 6 Jan 2004, Wes Peters wrote:
WP> Programmers, system administrators, end users, and anyone else who wants
WP> to contribute to FreeBSD are welcome to contribute in whatever way they
WP> can. Anyone can file a PR about any aspect of the system they find
WP> troubling, or delightful, or ha
On Monday 05 January 2004 11:14 am, Brett Glass wrote:
> I'd like to see a more open and inclusive form of governance for
> FreeBSD. The current system of governance has, as its underlying
> assumption, that the most prolific coders make the best leaders.
> In my personal experience, this isn't a v
> -Original Message-
> From: Brett Glass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:16 PM
> To: Munden, Randall J; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Where is FreeBSD going?
>
>
> At 04:00 PM 1/5/2004, Munden, Randall J wrot
I was just wondering if anyone has any ideas how it's possible for a user
that belongs to multiple groups to somehow limit his or her own capabilities
by using only one of the n groups that they belong to and be able to switch
between these groups? For example, if userA belongs to groupA, groupB a
Is there a way to turn a .so into a .o? I would like to link
something statically, and I'm doing a bunch of work on the
symbol table and would like to avoid a mess with using ar(1).
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Brett Glass wrote:
> I'd like to see a more open and inclusive form of governance for
> FreeBSD. The current system of governance has, as its underlying
> assumption, that the most prolific coders make the best leaders.
> In my personal experience, this isn't a valid assumption. System
> administ
Hi all,
Since several people actually thought this mail was written by me, I'm
replying here to tell it wasn't. This mail was sent by the same guy
who periodically impersonate one of the FreeBSD committers to rant about
the project. His mail doesn't reflect my thoughts at all. Please a
On Mon, Jan 05, 2004 at 10:30:03AM -0800, Maxim Hermion wrote:
> I've been an avid follower of the developments in FreeBSD for around 5
> years now, so my overview of the entire history of "glue that binds"
>
> Sincerely,
> Maxim Hermion
> FreeBSD committer
Dare I ask for some
Experienced programmers can be leaders very effectively if they get
feedback regularly from users. Its part of software development to
communicate with users. Provided the leadership listens to users
requirements, and acts in that interest there is no problem.
In reality, there are several ty
At 04:00 PM 1/5/2004, Munden, Randall J wrote:
>I think this is what is on my mind these days. I'm preparing to load
>up some machines for production soon (I've already put it off for too
>long waiting for 5-STABLE) and I don't like what I'm seeing -- with
>both the mud slinging here and the per
Mark,
You are totally right with the stuff that is starting to stick.
Let us all be happy and continue to support the freebsd.org core team.
Internal fights are pretty common, no one can ever be happy with other's
choices.
But i think it's a shame that one would have to resign or worse the freebs
Hi all freebsd users,
I Never ever noticed that these things are playing within freebsd.org
I See a healthy and good working organisation behind freebsd.org
I think they are really productional and give out releases a lot of times.
I also think that's very sad news to recieve on these days, why a
At 12:40 PM 1/5/2004, Munden, Randall J wrote:
>Right. What concerns me most is the rise in the incidence of trolls all
>trolling about the same subject or along the same vein. Would someone
>please explain what is going on? As a production user of fBSD this is
>troubling.
It's probably one
I'd like to see a more open and inclusive form of governance for
FreeBSD. The current system of governance has, as its underlying
assumption, that the most prolific coders make the best leaders.
In my personal experience, this isn't a valid assumption. System
administrators and end users have a big
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 01:55:41PM +0200, Danny Braniss wrote:
>
> while hunting down the problem that my diskless configuration is not
> starting the loopback interface i came about the following:
Mmmm - everythings OK for me:
[51]cicely14# ifconfig lo0
lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384
inet 127
while hunting down the problem that my diskless configuration is not
starting the loopback interface i came about the following:
rcorder does not list network, but it does network_ipv6
further checking reveals:
in /etc/rc.d/dhclient:
# PROVIDE: dhclient
# REQUIRE: network netif m
Hi,
I'm using FreeBSD 5.2-current machine for firewall. It is configured as a
bridged ipfw2 firewall.
Also this machine works a a traffic shaper using ip dummynet features.
I'm trying to limit bandwidth for some particular application, for example
eMule p2p application.
I'm doing it in the foll
Hi,
I'm using FreeBSD 5.2-current machine for firewall. It is configured as a
bridged ipfw2 firewall.
Also this machine works a a traffic shaper using ip dummynet features.
I'm trying to limit bandwidth for some particular application, for example
eMule p2p application.
I'm doing it in the foll
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 12:43:20AM +, Jay Cornwall wrote:
> Hi
>
> I've just finished a patch to alleviate several panics in the ugen driver
> (related to devfs issues and setting a USB device's configuration to
> USB_UNCONFIG_NO). I'm about to submit to freebsd-current@, but I need to
> cl
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