Re: Standard sbc and pcm support in GENERIC kernel?

2004-03-05 Thread Helge Oldach
Mathew Kanner: I would like to note that kldload'ing the sound modules works very well and I would prefer that to be standard operating procedure for sound. The issue with kldloading is that you still need PNPBIOS for many on-board sound devices. Which means that you need to compile your

Re: IPC nsswitch implementation

2004-03-05 Thread Jordan K Hubbard
Sounds similar to, but not as functional as, the lookupd in Mac OS X. :) On Mar 5, 2004, at 12:45 AM, Michael Bushkov wrote: We want you to look at this lookupd. It would be great for us to know if you like or not the way we made it. And we also want to know if this project can be added to

Re: Standard sbc and pcm support in GENERIC kernel?

2004-03-05 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 19:06, Helge Oldach wrote: The issue with kldloading is that you still need PNPBIOS for many on-board sound devices. Which means that you need to compile your own kernel anyway, or don´t you? I don't think I've ever seen a motherboard/BIOS where you HAD to compile it in the

DEVICE_IDENTIFY(9)

2004-03-05 Thread Mark Santcroos
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Reason for LINK_MAX set to 32K?

2004-03-05 Thread Stephen J. Roznowski
Is there a technical reason why LINK_MAX is set to 32K? Would anything bad happen if this value was raised? Thanks, -- Stephen J. Roznowski([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

IPC nsswitch implementation

2004-03-05 Thread Michael Bushkov
Hello! Some time ago there was a discussion concerning in-process vs. IPC nsswitch implementation. We agreed that we should develop an example of IPC implementation and ask for a discussion. We are glad to present you sample implementation of the IPC nsswitch model.

Re: Standard sbc and pcm support in GENERIC kernel?

2004-03-05 Thread Jorn Argelo
On 3/4/2004, Brandon D. Valentine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 05:03:40PM +0100, Jorn Argelo wrote: I've been on the question list for some time, and I have noticed that many people do not know how to get sound support up and running in FreeBSD 5.X. I know that

Re: Standard sbc and pcm support in GENERIC kernel?

2004-03-05 Thread Helge Oldach
Daniel O'Connor: On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 19:06, Helge Oldach wrote: The issue with kldloading is that you still need PNPBIOS for many on-board sound devices. Which means that you need to compile your own kernel anyway, or don´t you? I don't think I've ever seen a motherboard/BIOS where you HAD to

Re: Standard sbc and pcm support in GENERIC kernel?

2004-03-05 Thread Mathew Kanner
On Mar 05, Helge Oldach wrote: Daniel O'Connor: On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 19:06, Helge Oldach wrote: The issue with kldloading is that you still need PNPBIOS for many on-board sound devices. Which means that you need to compile your own kernel anyway, or don?t you? I don't think I've ever seen

Re: Standard sbc and pcm support in GENERIC kernel?

2004-03-05 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 23:38, Helge Oldach wrote: I don't think I've ever seen a motherboard/BIOS where you HAD to compile it in the kernel.. I have a number of Compaq DeskPro EN K450 here. Rather decent machines for FreeBSD desktops, and for sure not uncommon hardware. But unfortunately the

Re: Standard sbc and pcm support in GENERIC kernel?

2004-03-05 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Mathew Kanner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you required to compile sound in the kernel to get it to work? No, he is required to compile a kernel with the PNPBIOS option (which is not in GENERIC). DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Reason for LINK_MAX set to 32K?

2004-03-05 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Mar 04), Stephen J. Roznowski said: Is there a technical reason why LINK_MAX is set to 32K? Would anything bad happen if this value was raised? Mainly because di_nlink is an int16_t in ufs/dinode.h and ufs/inode.h. I think it could have been bumped up to an int32_t in

Re: Standard sbc and pcm support in GENERIC kernel?

2004-03-05 Thread Helge Oldach
Mathew Kanner: On Mar 05, Helge Oldach wrote: Daniel O'Connor: On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 19:06, Helge Oldach wrote: The issue with kldloading is that you still need PNPBIOS for many on-board sound devices. Which means that you need to compile your own kernel anyway, or don?t you? I don't think

Re: Standard sbc and pcm support in GENERIC kernel?

2004-03-05 Thread David Raistrick
On Fri, 5 Mar 2004, Helge Oldach wrote: case b) options PNPBIOS in the kernel config and kldload snd_pcm = pcm isn't recognized, but the other PnP devices show up during probe case c) *no* options PNPBIOS but kldload snd_pcm = neither pcm nor other PnP devices are recognized Did I forget

Re: Standard sbc and pcm support in GENERIC kernel?

2004-03-05 Thread David Raistrick
On Fri, 5 Mar 2004, Helge Oldach wrote: This is 4.9-STABLE of some few days ago (right after the TCP re-assembly queue fix). How will it work with -CURRENT which doesn't have a PNPBIOS option? Can I use sound at all? Ahh, I was refering to 5.x. I've never tried to kldload any pcm drivers in

Re: DEVICE_IDENTIFY(9)

2004-03-05 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 11:52:28AM +0100, Mark Santcroos wrote: The above manpage documents the return values, but it is a void function. Fixed, thanks! Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov FreeBSD committer [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Confirmation of change request for the freebsd-hackers mailing list subscription

2004-03-05 Thread David Raistrick
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Re: Standard sbc and pcm support in GENERIC kernel?

2004-03-05 Thread Mathew Kanner
[...Just noticed that we are posting to multiple groups. Sorry everyone, though I not ready to drop them...] On Mar 05, Helge Oldach wrote: Mathew Kanner: On Mar 05, Helge Oldach wrote: Yes, that is exactly correct. I am sorry, I just wasn't clear enough with my wording. To be safe, I

Re: Standard sbc and pcm support in GENERIC kernel?

2004-03-05 Thread David Raistrick
On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Brandon D. Valentine wrote: If they'd read pcm(4) they'd know how to get sound support up and running without recompiling their kernel. Is there something wrong with requiring that a new user bother to read the documentation? pcm(4) only explains the technical details,

Re: Standard sbc and pcm support in GENERIC kernel?

2004-03-05 Thread Helge Oldach
Mathew Kanner: On Mar 05, Helge Oldach wrote: Mathew Kanner: On Mar 05, Helge Oldach wrote: case b) options PNPBIOS in the kernel config and kldload snd_pcm = pcm isn't recognized, but the other PnP devices show up during probe kldloading snd_pcm isn't enough. You need to load the

Re: IPC nsswitch implementation

2004-03-05 Thread Jordan K Hubbard
The Mac OS X lookupd does aggressive caching with cache invalidation support, supports the notion of flushing the cache on certain events (like when you reconfigure your network interfaces or switch authentication plugins), and quite a few other things. No surprise, really, given that it's

A simple question

2004-03-05 Thread Chungwei Hsiung
Hello.. I am super new to this list, and I have a simple question that I don't know why it does that. I have a simple test program. I compile it, and gdb to disassemble main. I got the following.. 0x80481f8 main: push %ebp 0x80481f9 main+1: mov%esp,%ebp 0x80481fb main+3: sub

Re: Standard sbc and pcm support in GENERIC kernel?

2004-03-05 Thread Daniel Lang
Hi, David Raistrick wrote on Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 08:27:56AM -0800: [..] kldload snd_driver is of course the correct way to do it. FWIW, kldunload snd_driver does /not/ unload all of the modules that kldload snd_driver loads. [..] snd_driver is a module that contains _all_ drivers, thus

Re: Standard sbc and pcm support in GENERIC kernel?

2004-03-05 Thread Brandon D. Valentine
[ Whoa, Nelly. Cc: trimmed. ] On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 05:33:47PM +0100, Helge Oldach wrote: This is 4.9-STABLE of some few days ago (right after the TCP re-assembly queue fix). How will it work with -CURRENT which doesn't have a PNPBIOS option? Can I use sound at all? If you wish to test

Re: Standard sbc and pcm support in GENERIC kernel?

2004-03-05 Thread Mathew Kanner
On Mar 05, Helge Oldach wrote: [..snip..] Bingo! kldload snd_ess does in fact also load snd_sbc and snd_pcm, and it all works. Apologies, I was mislead by the fact that in the kernel just has options pcm without any further fuzz. Yes, this is a confusing aspect. It should be a

Re: IPC nsswitch implementation

2004-03-05 Thread Michael Bushkov
The Mac OS X lookupd does aggressive caching with cache invalidation support, supports the notion of flushing the cache on certain events (like when you reconfigure your network interfaces or switch authentication plugins), and quite a few other things. No surprise, really, given that it's been

Re: A simple question

2004-03-05 Thread ISAAC GELADO FERNANDEZ
De: Chungwei Hsiung [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fecha: Viernes, Marzo 5, 2004 7:43 pm I have a simple test program. I compile it, and gdb to disassemble main. I got the following.. 0x80481f8 main: push %ebp 0x80481f9 main+1: mov%esp,%ebp 0x80481fb main+3: sub$0x8,%esp

Re: IPC nsswitch implementation

2004-03-05 Thread Gordon Tetlow
On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 10:41:33PM +0300, Michael Bushkov wrote: Our implementation of lookupd is a demonstration of the approach for the FreeBSD-specific IPC implementation of nsswitch. Its architecture is flexible enough to implement all the features you have mentioned. The version that

Re: Issues with SSH+LDAP on FreeBSD 5.2

2004-03-05 Thread Gordon Tetlow
On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 07:46:11AM -0500, sybexmy alias wrote: Hi All, I'm attempting to integrate SSH with LDAP and PAM on a FREEBSD 5.2 host. However I'm having access denied error message when I try to ssh to my ldap server using PUTTY Release 0.53b. I have google around and found

Re: IPC nsswitch implementation

2004-03-05 Thread Michael Bushkov
I understand this. There are some problems in making current nss-modules compatible with our implementation. The main problem is process euid. When you're using current nss-modules they work as part of your program - and geteuid functions work correctly. But when lookupd is used, euid of the

Re: A simple question

2004-03-05 Thread ISAAC GELADO FERNANDEZ
ISAAC GELADO FERNANDEZ wrote: De: Chungwei Hsiung [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fecha: Viernes, Marzo 5, 2004 7:43 pm I have a simple test program. I compile it, and gdb to disassemble main. I got the following.. 0x80481f8 main: push %ebp 0x80481f9 main+1: mov%esp,%ebp

Re: Standard sbc and pcm support in GENERIC kernel?

2004-03-05 Thread John Baldwin
On Wednesday 03 March 2004 04:31 pm, Randy Pratt wrote: On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 17:03:40 +0100 (CET) you wrote: I've been on the question list for some time, and I have noticed that many people do not know how to get sound support up and running in FreeBSD 5.X. I know that re-compiling the

Re: CPU update

2004-03-05 Thread John Baldwin
On Thursday 04 March 2004 02:04 am, Mark Dixon wrote: On Wednesday 03 Mar 2004 23:09, John Baldwin wrote: On Wednesday 03 March 2004 06:02 pm, Mark wrote: Dear Sirs: I compiled my FreeBSD 4.7R for an AMD XP-2000. If I upgrade to an AMD 64 3200, will my OS still run? The AMD 64 is

Strange instructions in compiler output (was: A simple question)

2004-03-05 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Friday, 5 March 2004 at 13:43:04 -0500, Chungwei Hsiung wrote: Hello.. I am super new to this list, and I have a simple question that I don't know why it does that. I have a simple test program. I compile it, and gdb to disassemble main. I got the following.. 0x80481f8 main: push

Re: Strange instructions in compiler output

2004-03-05 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Friday, 5 March 2004 at 18:43:11 -0500, Chungwei Hsiung wrote: Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Friday, 5 March 2004 at 13:43:04 -0500, Chungwei Hsiung wrote: Hello.. I am super new to this list, and I have a simple question that I don't know why it does that. I have a simple test

Re: Standard sbc and pcm support in GENERIC kernel?

2004-03-05 Thread Avleen Vig
On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 06:26:47PM -0500, Dan Langille wrote: If they'd read pcm(4) they'd know how to get sound support up and running without recompiling their kernel. Is there something wrong with requiring that a new user bother to read the documentation? They would first have to

Re: Standard sbc and pcm support in GENERIC kernel?

2004-03-05 Thread Dan Langille
On Fri, 5 Mar 2004, Avleen Vig wrote: On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 06:26:47PM -0500, Dan Langille wrote: If they'd read pcm(4) they'd know how to get sound support up and running without recompiling their kernel. Is there something wrong with requiring that a new user bother to read the

Re: Standard sbc and pcm support in GENERIC kernel?

2004-03-05 Thread Dan Langille
On Fri, 5 Mar 2004, Dan Langille wrote: *That* explanation is vast difference to saying they have to read man pcm(4). The difference is sigficicant. In the same breath, someone needs to install a spell checker and verify the grammer. -- Dan Langille - BSDCan: http://www.bsdcan.org/

Re: Standard sbc and pcm support in GENERIC kernel?

2004-03-05 Thread Avleen Vig
On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 09:58:52PM -0500, Dan Langille wrote: All the have to do is look at the handbook. And if they can't find the link on the *front page* of freebsd.org, under the clearly labelled catagory of Support, then there is very little we can or should do to help them. After a

Re: Standard sbc and pcm support in GENERIC kernel?

2004-03-05 Thread Jamie Bowden
On Fri, 5 Mar 2004, Dan Langille wrote: On Fri, 5 Mar 2004, Avleen Vig wrote: All the have to do is look at the handbook. And if they can't find the link on the *front page* of freebsd.org, under the clearly labelled catagory of Support, then there is very little we can or should do to

Re: IPC nsswitch implementation

2004-03-05 Thread Jordan K Hubbard
Why not use a UNIX domain socket as the transport and then use credential passing to pass the credentials lookupd should use to do the lookup? On Mar 5, 2004, at 1:27 PM, Michael Bushkov wrote: When you're using current nss-modules they work as part of your program - and geteuid functions