Re: setting promisc mode kills vlans on devices with hwtagging (em, re ...)

2004-11-22 Thread Jeremie Le Hen
> http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=291393+0+archive/2004/cvs-all/20041121.cvs-all After further digging, here is the main commit (in order to show greetings at least) : http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=2472977+0+archive/2004/cvs-all/20041114.cvs-all Regargs, -- Jeremie Le

Re: setting promisc mode kills vlans on devices with hwtagging (em, re ...)

2004-11-22 Thread Jeremie Le Hen
> if you setup a vlan devices with parent one of emX or reX (this what I > have at the moment) > which has hardware vlan tagging just try to run tcpdump (without -p) and > the vlans will > die :). That doesn't happen with parent devices not supporting > hwtagging. And this totally > excludes pos

Re: List of fake vs. real SATA drives.

2004-11-22 Thread jason
João Carlos Mendes Luís wrote: What is the practical diference? Performance? FUJISHIMA Satsuki wrote: Currently native SATA drives are still not so popular. There are: Seagate Barracuda ATA V, 7200.7, 7200.8 Maxtor DiamondMax10, MaXLineIII Fujitsu MHT20xxBH(2.5 inch) Any other drives (as far as I

Re: Flash plugin

2004-11-22 Thread Rahul Siddharthan
Quoting Justin Hopper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I was hopeful for using the Flash plugin with FireFox in FreeBSD when I > noticed that there was a port for it. However, the plugin seems to be > pretty dated, though I can't tell exactly what version of the player it > is. I think you're looking at th

Re: Snapshot corruption.

2004-11-22 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Nov 22), David Gilbert said: > > "Brian" == Brian Fundakowski Feldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Brian> Long strings of NUL bytes? Missing data? Spam (from the same > Brian> file, or from other files)? > > Well... I don't really know db file formats. Most of the corr

Re: List of fake vs. real SATA drives.

2004-11-22 Thread David Gilbert
> "Søren" == Søren Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Søren> David Gilbert wrote: >>> "João" == João Carlos Mendes Luís <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> >> João> IIF they really have command queueing, I do believe. So, a >> João> bridged SATA drive will not have command queuing, right

Re: Snapshot corruption.

2004-11-22 Thread David Gilbert
> "Brian" == Brian Fundakowski Feldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brian> Long strings of NUL bytes? Missing data? Spam (from the same Brian> file, or from other files)? Well... I don't really know db file formats. Most of the corruption I found in berkley db files. mailgraph uses rrd. m

Flash plugin

2004-11-22 Thread Justin Hopper
Hello, I was hopeful for using the Flash plugin with FireFox in FreeBSD when I noticed that there was a port for it. However, the plugin seems to be pretty dated, though I can't tell exactly what version of the player it is. Does anyone know if the author is working on a new version? I'd be cur

setting promisc mode kills vlans on devices with hwtagging (em, re ...)

2004-11-22 Thread Iasen Kostov
Hi, if you setup a vlan devices with parent one of emX or reX (this what I have at the moment) which has hardware vlan tagging just try to run tcpdump (without -p) and the vlans will die :). That doesn't happen with parent devices not supporting hwtagging. And this totally excludes possibilit

Re: List of fake vs. real SATA drives.

2004-11-22 Thread Stephen Montgomery-Smith
Søren Schmidt wrote: Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: Thomas Wolf wrote: Stephen Montgomery-Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: FUJISHIMA Satsuki wrote: Currently native SATA drives are still not so popular. There are: Seagate Barracuda ATA V, 7200.7, 7200.8 I have one of these, and I am really imp

Re: Tracing Disk Access

2004-11-22 Thread Brian Fundakowski Feldman
On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 04:22:54PM +0100, Hanspeter Roth wrote: > > Hello, > > I have set an idle timeout for the hard-disk. But when there is no > user activity there are frequent disk accesses. > How can one trace disk access? > I'd like to know the kind of access and on which files/directories

Re: Snapshot corruption.

2004-11-22 Thread Brian Fundakowski Feldman
On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 03:32:13PM -0500, David Gilbert wrote: > > "Julian" == Julian Elischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Julian> David Gilbert wrote: > > >> I've got a medium busy server (few thousand mail messages a day, > >> web, webmail, imap, etc) that I can fairly reliably reproduc

Re: List of fake vs. real SATA drives.

2004-11-22 Thread Søren Schmidt
Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: Thomas Wolf wrote: Stephen Montgomery-Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: FUJISHIMA Satsuki wrote: Currently native SATA drives are still not so popular. There are: Seagate Barracuda ATA V, 7200.7, 7200.8 I have one of these, and I am really impressed by its performa

Re: List of fake vs. real SATA drives.

2004-11-22 Thread Stephen Montgomery-Smith
Thomas Wolf wrote: Stephen Montgomery-Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: FUJISHIMA Satsuki wrote: Currently native SATA drives are still not so popular. There are: Seagate Barracuda ATA V, 7200.7, 7200.8 I have one of these, and I am really impressed by its performance. I added one to my comput

Re: List of fake vs. real SATA drives.

2004-11-22 Thread Mykel
David Gilbert wrote: "João" == João Carlos Mendes Luís <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: João> IIF they really have command queueing, I do believe. So, a João> bridged SATA drive will not have command queuing, right? Well... from what I've read, the WD bridged drives do have queueing becaus

Re: List of fake vs. real SATA drives.

2004-11-22 Thread Thomas Wolf
Stephen Montgomery-Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > FUJISHIMA Satsuki wrote: > > Currently native SATA drives are still not so popular. There are: > > > Seagate Barracuda ATA V, 7200.7, 7200.8 > > I have one of these, and I am really impressed by its performance. I > added one to my compu

Re: List of fake vs. real SATA drives.

2004-11-22 Thread Søren Schmidt
David Gilbert wrote: "João" == João Carlos Mendes Luís <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: João> IIF they really have command queueing, I do believe. So, a João> bridged SATA drive will not have command queuing, right? Well... from what I've read, the WD bridged drives do have queueing because they had a

Re: List of fake vs. real SATA drives.

2004-11-22 Thread David Gilbert
> "João" == João Carlos Mendes Luís <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: João> IIF they really have command queueing, I do believe. So, a João> bridged SATA drive will not have command queuing, right? Well... from what I've read, the WD bridged drives do have queueing because they had an ATA-100 impl

Re: List of fake vs. real SATA drives.

2004-11-22 Thread João Carlos Mendes Luís
Charles Sprickman wrote: On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, [ISO-8859-1] João Carlos Mendes Luís wrote: What is the practical diference? Performance? I don't know how much of it to believe, since it is marketing material, but the Seagate white paper on their site claims that all the command-queueing stuff b

Re: List of fake vs. real SATA drives.

2004-11-22 Thread David Gilbert
> "Charles" == Charles Sprickman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Charles> On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, [ISO-8859-1] João Carlos Mendes Luís Charles> wrote: >> What is the practical diference? Performance? Charles> I don't know how much of it to believe, since it is marketing Charles> material, but the S

Re: List of fake vs. real SATA drives.

2004-11-22 Thread Charles Sprickman
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, [ISO-8859-1] João Carlos Mendes Luís wrote: What is the practical diference? Performance? I don't know how much of it to believe, since it is marketing material, but the Seagate white paper on their site claims that all the command-queueing stuff brings the performance very

ECMP/Multipathing

2004-11-22 Thread Matt Freitag
Howdy, I've been digging around google for an hour now trying to find info on multipathing in freebsd, I've stumbled on a few patches that pull it off, latest of which was for 4.8-stable located at: http://www.dsm.fordham.edu/~tanzer/multipath/ Unfortunately it's tossing errors during compile

Re: List of fake vs. real SATA drives.

2004-11-22 Thread Stephen Montgomery-Smith
FUJISHIMA Satsuki wrote: Currently native SATA drives are still not so popular. There are: Seagate Barracuda ATA V, 7200.7, 7200.8 I have one of these, and I am really impressed by its performance. I added one to my computer, which came with a Maxtor 6Y080L0. My main disk intensive operation i

Tracing Disk Access

2004-11-22 Thread Hanspeter Roth
Hello, I have set an idle timeout for the hard-disk. But when there is no user activity there are frequent disk accesses. How can one trace disk access? I'd like to know the kind of access and on which files/directories/ nodes. I'd like to log on the console or on a memory disk file. -Hanspeter

Re: List of fake vs. real SATA drives.

2004-11-22 Thread David Gilbert
> "João" == João Carlos Mendes Luís <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: João> What is the practical diference? Performance? FUJISHIMA Well... one practical difference is: what are you paying for? Same old crap with a new connector? One really practical difference is that the SiI 3114 and 3112 chi

Re: List of fake vs. real SATA drives.

2004-11-22 Thread João Carlos Mendes Luís
What is the practical diference? Performance? FUJISHIMA Satsuki wrote: Currently native SATA drives are still not so popular. There are: Seagate Barracuda ATA V, 7200.7, 7200.8 Maxtor DiamondMax10, MaXLineIII Fujitsu MHT20xxBH(2.5 inch) Any other drives (as far as I know, of course) are ATA drive

Re: List of fake vs. real SATA drives.

2004-11-22 Thread Søren Schmidt
Steven Hartland wrote: Ah just added TCQ but still bridged I stand corrected :) Right, I guess they just pulled it out from the attic, they had it on some PATA devices back when, but there it newer caught on either :) -- -Søren ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mai

Re: List of fake vs. real SATA drives.

2004-11-22 Thread Søren Schmidt
Steven Hartland wrote: I believe the second gen Raptors ( 74Gb ) are also native SATA nope. Currently native SATA drives are still not so popular. There are: Seagate Barracuda ATA V, 7200.7, 7200.8 Maxtor DiamondMax10, MaXLineIII Fujitsu MHT20xxBH(2.5 inch) Any other drives (as far as I know, of co

Re: List of fake vs. real SATA drives.

2004-11-22 Thread Steven Hartland
Ah just added TCQ but still bridged I stand corrected :) Steve - Original Message - From: "FUJISHIMA Satsuki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://techreport.com/reviews/2004q1/raptor-wd740gd/index.x?pg=1 |Serial ATA interface Marvell 88i8030C bridge =

Re: List of fake vs. real SATA drives.

2004-11-22 Thread FUJISHIMA Satsuki
At Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:39:57 -, Steven Hartland wrote: > I believe the second gen Raptors ( 74Gb ) are also native SATA No. http://techreport.com/reviews/2004q1/raptor-wd740gd/index.x?pg=1 |Serial ATA interface Marvell 88i8030C bridge ___ [EMAIL P

Re: List of fake vs. real SATA drives.

2004-11-22 Thread Steven Hartland
I believe the second gen Raptors ( 74Gb ) are also native SATA Steve - Original Message - From: "FUJISHIMA Satsuki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Currently native SATA drives are still not so popular. There are: Seagate Barracuda ATA V, 7200.7, 7200.8 Maxtor DiamondMax10, MaXLineIII Fujitsu MHT

Re: List of fake vs. real SATA drives.

2004-11-22 Thread FUJISHIMA Satsuki
Currently native SATA drives are still not so popular. There are: Seagate Barracuda ATA V, 7200.7, 7200.8 Maxtor DiamondMax10, MaXLineIII Fujitsu MHT20xxBH(2.5 inch) Any other drives (as far as I know, of course) are ATA drive with serial-parallel bridge. At Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:36:43 -0500, David