Re: numbers don't lie ...

2006-09-14 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dag-Erling Smørgrav) writes: > Gary Corcoran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The confusing thing is that I thought 'real' time should be >= 'user' + > > 'sys'. > > But here 'user' is much greater than 'real' for both machines! The sense I > > got from the other messages in this

Re: numbers don't lie ...

2006-09-14 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Gary Corcoran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The confusing thing is that I thought 'real' time should be >= 'user' + 'sys'. > But here 'user' is much greater than 'real' for both machines! The sense I > got from the other messages in this thread is that 'user' time is somewhat > meaningless (i.e. u

Re: numbers don't lie ...

2006-09-14 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 02:13:55PM -0400, Gary Corcoran wrote: > Mike Meyer wrote: > >In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gary Corcoran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed: > >>The confusing thing is that I thought 'real' time should be >= 'user' + > >>'sys'. > >>But here 'user' is much greater than 'real' for both mac

Re: numbers don't lie ...

2006-09-14 Thread Gary Corcoran
Mike Meyer wrote: In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gary Corcoran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed: The confusing thing is that I thought 'real' time should be >= 'user' + 'sys'. But here 'user' is much greater than 'real' for both machines! The sense I got from the other messages in this thread is that 'user'

Re: numbers don't lie ...

2006-09-14 Thread Martin Cracauer
Danny Braniss wrote on Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 09:36:01AM +0300: > Im testing these 2 boxes, Sun X4100 and Dell-2950, and: > > SUN X4100: Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 280 (2393.19-MHz > K8-class CPU) > one 70g sata disk > DELL 2950: Intel(R) Xeon(T

Re: numbers don't lie ...

2006-09-14 Thread Pieter de Goeje
On Thursday 14 September 2006 19:28, Gary Corcoran wrote: > The confusing thing is that I thought 'real' time should be >= 'user' + > 'sys'. But here 'user' is much greater than 'real' for both machines! The > sense I got from the other messages in this thread is that 'user' time is > somewhat mea

Re: numbers don't lie ...

2006-09-14 Thread Mike Meyer
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gary Corcoran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed: > The confusing thing is that I thought 'real' time should be >= 'user' + 'sys'. > But here 'user' is much greater than 'real' for both machines! The sense I > got from the other messages in this thread is that 'user' time is somewha

Re: numbers don't lie ...

2006-09-14 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 01:28:03PM -0400, Gary Corcoran wrote: > The confusing thing is that I thought 'real' time should be >= 'user' + > 'sys'. No. This is at best only ever approximately true on a uniprocessor machine when there is no blocking I/O being performed. A bit of thought about the

Re: numbers don't lie ...

2006-09-14 Thread Gary Corcoran
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Danny Braniss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Im testing these 2 boxes, Sun X4100 and Dell-2950, and: SUN X4100: Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 280 (2393.19-MHz K8-class CPU) one 70g sata disk DELL 2950: Intel(R) Xeo

RE: Issue with loading a module

2006-09-14 Thread Sean Thomson
Hey John, thanks for responding :)> > In working with a device driver, sometimes> > after I rebuild it and reload it, I'll get> > system log errors like> > > > 'link_elf: symbol yyz undefined'> > I assume that it fails to load when you get this message? yes. The thing to note, and i probably

Re: Issue with loading a module

2006-09-14 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Sean Thomson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : Hi Folks, : : In working with a device driver, sometimes : after I rebuild it and reload it, I'll get : system log errors like : : 'link_elf: symbol yyz undefined' : : Actually, I'll get an entry for all

Re: numbers don't lie ...

2006-09-14 Thread Mike Meyer
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Danny Braniss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed: > > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Danny Braniss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed: > > What's the CPU configuration? The AMD is dual core - is that it? Could > > the Xeon be dual-core and hyperthreaded, so it's got that many more > > CPUs to contri

Re: numbers don't lie ...

2006-09-14 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Danny Braniss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Im testing these 2 boxes, Sun X4100 and Dell-2950, and: > > SUN X4100: Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 280 (2393.19-MHz > K8-class CPU) > one 70g sata disk > DELL 2950: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz (3192.9

Re: numbers don't lie ...

2006-09-14 Thread Oliver Fromme
Danny Braniss wrote: > [...] > but the original question stands: > why is the user time between the boxes so different, Because the dual-core Opteron is significantly faster than the (single-core) Xeon, so buildworld takes less (user) CPU time. By the way, certain parts of buildworld make use

Re: numbers don't lie ...

2006-09-14 Thread Danny Braniss
> On Wednesday 13 September 2006 08:36, Danny Braniss wrote: > > Im testing these 2 boxes, Sun X4100 and Dell-2950, and: > > > > SUN X4100: Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 280 (2393.19-MHz > > K8-class > > CPU) one 70g sata disk > > DELL 2950: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz (3

Re: numbers don't lie ...

2006-09-14 Thread Pieter de Goeje
On Wednesday 13 September 2006 08:36, Danny Braniss wrote: > Im testing these 2 boxes, Sun X4100 and Dell-2950, and: > > SUN X4100: Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 280 (2393.19-MHz > K8-class > CPU) one 70g sata disk > DELL 2950: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz (3192.98-MHz

Re: numbers don't lie ...

2006-09-14 Thread Danny Braniss
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Danny Braniss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed: > > Im testing these 2 boxes, Sun X4100 and Dell-2950, and: > > > > SUN X4100: Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 280 (2393.19-MHz > > K8-class CPU) > > one 70g sata disk > > DELL 2950: Intel