Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-27 Thread Jeremie Le Hen
Hi, On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:03:08AM -0600, Mark Carlson wrote: I've found wine + firefox + flash to work for everything I've tried so far (youtube, various websites with flash ads, one or two flash-only sites.) It did crash on me once, but I'm not sure it was related to flash. Wine is

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-27 Thread gb . public
Hi, The sake of completeness, I think it's worth mentionning that when using nspluginwrapper, it is theorically possible to run the Flash plugin (and other ones too) inside QEMU. This is possible but slow and I used a very old version of QEMU. IIRC, the OpenSUSE wiki mentions how to do

RE: 3D for AMD64 (was Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...)

2008-06-27 Thread Robert Huff
Sean Cavanaugh writes: AMD is actively working to opensource the *nic drivers for the ATI cards starting with the most recent. From a news article iI came across they were actually hiring a whole new department whose sole purpose was to add more of the older cards to the open sorce

RE: 3D for AMD64 (was Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...)

2008-06-27 Thread Pegasus Mc Cleaft
for AMD64 (was Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...) Sean Cavanaugh writes: AMD is actively working to opensource the *nic drivers for the ATI cards starting with the most recent. From a news article iI came across they were actually hiring a whole new

Re: 3D for AMD64 (was Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...)

2008-06-26 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:00:09 -0400 Ben Kaduk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Thierry Herbelot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there any hope for having the newly open-sourced radeon/radeon-hd AMD

RE: 3D for AMD64 (was Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...)

2008-06-26 Thread Sean Cavanaugh
fglrx is the only way that anyone's going to get true 3D OpenGL support, and the last time I checked that wasn't available except for ancient cards on FreeBSD. AMD was supposed to be helping ATI, but it appears that after the merger all that's happened is a website change and ATI's drivers

Re: 3D for AMD64 (was Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...)

2008-06-26 Thread George Hartzell
Mike Meyer writes: [...] I'm not sure those are the drivers Theierry wants. The proprietary driver was called fglrx, not radeon or radeonhd. Those two drivers have been in the X open source trees for quite a while now. I first started using the radeon driver on amd64 in late 2006. The

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-25 Thread Stefan Lambrev
Greetings, Mark Carlson wrote: On 6/24/08, Naram Qashat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julian Stacey wrote: Do you have a How To RTFM Cook book / script URL please ? I'd like to chime in here and say there is nothing special to get this configuration to work. Download the Windows

Re: 3D for AMD64 (was Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...)

2008-06-25 Thread Ben Kaduk
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Thierry Herbelot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there any hope for having the newly open-sourced radeon/radeon-hd AMD drivers (and the related 3D acceleration) to work under FreeBSD-AMD64 ? Well, I'm using radeonhd right now on a [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: 3D for AMD64 (was Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...)

2008-06-25 Thread Thierry Herbelot
Le Wednesday 25 June 2008, Ben Kaduk a écrit : On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Thierry Herbelot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there any hope for having the newly open-sourced radeon/radeon-hd AMD drivers (and the related 3D acceleration) to work under FreeBSD-AMD64 ? Well, I'm using

Re: 3D for AMD64 (was Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...)

2008-06-25 Thread Ben Kaduk
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Thierry Herbelot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le Wednesday 25 June 2008, Ben Kaduk a écrit : On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Thierry Herbelot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there any hope for having the newly open-sourced radeon/radeon-hd AMD drivers (and the

Re: 3D for AMD64 (was Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...)

2008-06-25 Thread Mike Meyer
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:00:09 -0400 Ben Kaduk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Thierry Herbelot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there any hope for having the newly open-sourced radeon/radeon-hd AMD drivers (and the related 3D acceleration) to work under FreeBSD-AMD64 ?

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-25 Thread RW
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:52:30 +0300 Stefan Lambrev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried this before and have a bad luck of not having working audio on flash, but today with new wine and FF3 it works. Btw there is a small nasty problem copy/paste from wine app to native apps does not work. Ideas

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-25 Thread David E. Thiel
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 09:21:53PM +0100, RW wrote: Btw there is a small nasty problem copy/paste from wine app to native apps does not work. Ideas how to workaround this? It's only the traditional X, select and middle-click, that doesn't work in my experience The windows-style

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-24 Thread John Kozubik
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, Scott T. Hildreth wrote: On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 08:39 +0200, Alexander Leidinger wrote: Quoting John Kozubik [EMAIL PROTECTED] (from Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:38:11 -0700 (PDT)): First, a bounty has been posted here:

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-24 Thread Scott T. Hildreth
On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 08:41 -0700, John Kozubik wrote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, Scott T. Hildreth wrote: On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 08:39 +0200, Alexander Leidinger wrote: Quoting John Kozubik [EMAIL PROTECTED] (from Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:38:11 -0700 (PDT)): First, a bounty has been

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-24 Thread Mark Carlson
On 6/19/08, John Kozubik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't shoot the messenger: FreeBSD is not useful as a desktop environment without the ability to support Flash in a stable, well-performing fashion. Running IE in Wine is not a solution. Running another OS in vmware to simply

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-24 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Scott T. Hildreth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 08:41 -0700, John Kozubik wrote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, Scott T. Hildreth wrote: On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 08:39 +0200, Alexander Leidinger wrote: Quoting John Kozubik [EMAIL PROTECTED] (from

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-24 Thread Julian Stacey
Mark Carlson wrote: On 6/19/08, John Kozubik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . Elided ... [1] Since we're all probably already running Linux Binary Compat anyway... I've found wine + firefox + flash to work for everything I've tried so Do you have a How To RTFM Cook book / script URL

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-24 Thread Naram Qashat
Julian Stacey wrote: Mark Carlson wrote: On 6/19/08, John Kozubik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . Elided ... [1] Since we're all probably already running Linux Binary Compat anyway... I've found wine + firefox + flash to work for everything I've tried so Do you have a How To RTFM Cook

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-24 Thread Mark Carlson
On 6/24/08, Naram Qashat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julian Stacey wrote: Do you have a How To RTFM Cook book / script URL please ? I'd like to chime in here and say there is nothing special to get this configuration to work. Download the Windows version of Firefox and install it via Wine,

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-24 Thread Mike Meyer
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:36:42 -0400 Naram Qashat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julian Stacey wrote: Mark Carlson wrote: On 6/19/08, John Kozubik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . Elided ... [1] Since we're all probably already running Linux Binary Compat anyway... I've found wine +

3D for AMD64 (was Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...)

2008-06-24 Thread Thierry Herbelot
[CC trimmed] Le Tuesday 24 June 2008, Garrett Cooper a écrit : On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Scott T. Hildreth [SNIP] (not designed to be troll-bait, just my personal opinion on the matter -- don't comment on it please) FWIW, Personally I don't think that Flash support is as critical as

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-24 Thread David E. Thiel
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 01:40:44PM -0600, Mark Carlson wrote: 0. Install wine ( emulators/wine ) 1. Download firefox for windows ( http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all.html ) 2. Run: wine Firefox Setup 3.0.exe 3. Complete the installer 4. To run firefox you need to do something like:

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-24 Thread Alex Goncharov
,--- You/Mark (Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:41:07 -0600) * | I'm not at my box right now, but it went something like this: | ... | I might write up some better instructions when I have the time, but | I really don't have a good place to put them. `---*

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-20 Thread Murray Stokely
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 9:59 PM, David E. Thiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 02:37:48PM -0700, John Kozubik wrote: FreeBSD is not useful as a desktop environment without the ability to support Flash in a stable, well-performing fashion. Nonsense. This presumes anything

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-20 Thread Matt Olander
On Jun 20, 2008, at 12:01 AM, Murray Stokely wrote: On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 9:59 PM, David E. Thiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 02:37:48PM -0700, John Kozubik wrote: FreeBSD is not useful as a desktop environment without the ability to support Flash in a stable,

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-20 Thread Roman Divacky
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 08:39:06AM +0200, Alexander Leidinger wrote: Quoting John Kozubik [EMAIL PROTECTED] (from Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:38:11 -0700 (PDT)): First, a bounty has been posted here: http://blog.kozubik.com/john_kozubik/2007/12/bounty-posted-f.html From the site:

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-20 Thread OutBackDingo
Believe it or not, there is useful content on the web in Flash : Google [Flash filetype:swf site:nasa.gov] (without the brackets). There might be useful content, but that surely doesnt mean FreeBSD itself as a desktop isnt usable, I think saying using firefox/flash for flash based websites is

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-20 Thread Alexander Leidinger
Quoting John Kozubik [EMAIL PROTECTED] (from Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:38:11 -0700 (PDT)): First, a bounty has been posted here: http://blog.kozubik.com/john_kozubik/2007/12/bounty-posted-f.html From the site: ---snip--- I will pay $200 to whoever can compose a working and stable recipe for

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-20 Thread Alexander Leidinger
Quoting Roman Divacky [EMAIL PROTECTED] (from Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:04:16 +0200): On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 08:39:06AM +0200, Alexander Leidinger wrote: Quoting John Kozubik [EMAIL PROTECTED] (from Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:38:11 -0700 (PDT)): First, a bounty has been posted here:

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-20 Thread Scott T. Hildreth
On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 08:39 +0200, Alexander Leidinger wrote: Quoting John Kozubik [EMAIL PROTECTED] (from Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:38:11 -0700 (PDT)): First, a bounty has been posted here: http://blog.kozubik.com/john_kozubik/2007/12/bounty-posted-f.html Maybe the bounty would be

Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-19 Thread John Kozubik
Don't shoot the messenger: FreeBSD is not useful as a desktop environment without the ability to support Flash in a stable, well-performing fashion. Running IE in Wine is not a solution. Running another OS in vmware to simply browse the web is not a solution. Free flash alternatives and

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-19 Thread Pietro Cerutti
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 John Kozubik wrote: | | Don't shoot the messenger: | | | FreeBSD is not useful as a desktop environment without the ability to | support Flash in a stable, well-performing fashion. gnash-devel provides flash 9 and works pretty well... | | |

Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...

2008-06-19 Thread David E. Thiel
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 02:37:48PM -0700, John Kozubik wrote: FreeBSD is not useful as a desktop environment without the ability to support Flash in a stable, well-performing fashion. Nonsense. This presumes anything useful has ever been written in flash. Free flash alternatives and flash