Re: Lizard...

1999-07-09 Thread Wilko Bulte
As John-Mark Gurney wrote ... > Adrian Filipi-Martin scribbled this message on Jul 4: > > On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Anthony Kimball wrote: > > > > > > > > Lizard has a tetris game built in for those long waits... > > > Now THAT is cool. > > > >

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-09 Thread Wilko Bulte
As John-Mark Gurney wrote ... > Adrian Filipi-Martin scribbled this message on Jul 4: > > On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Anthony Kimball wrote: > > > > > > > > Lizard has a tetris game built in for those long waits... > > > Now THAT is cool. > > > >

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-08 Thread John-Mark Gurney
Adrian Filipi-Martin scribbled this message on Jul 4: > On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Anthony Kimball wrote: > > > > > Lizard has a tetris game built in for those long waits... > > Now THAT is cool. > > Using the "holistic emergency shell" on vty4 when doing

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-08 Thread John-Mark Gurney
Adrian Filipi-Martin scribbled this message on Jul 4: > On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Anthony Kimball wrote: > > > > > Lizard has a tetris game built in for those long waits... > > Now THAT is cool. > > Using the "holistic emergency shell" on vty4 when do

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-04 Thread Adrian Filipi-Martin
On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Anthony Kimball wrote: > > Lizard has a tetris game built in for those long waits... > Now THAT is cool. Using the "holistic emergency shell" on vty4 when doing a network install is more fun. At the very least it has been useful during evange

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-04 Thread Adrian Filipi-Martin
On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Anthony Kimball wrote: > > Lizard has a tetris game built in for those long waits... > Now THAT is cool. Using the "holistic emergency shell" on vty4 when doing a network install is more fun. At the very least it has been useful during evange

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-03 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Brian F. Feldman" writes: : It's a better idea to not have people waiting for a long time. CDROMs and Disks are only so fast... And network downloads are not going to be as snappy as even a 2x cdrom anytime soon... Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PR

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-03 Thread Warner Losh
In message "Brian F. Feldman" writes: : It's a better idea to not have people waiting for a long time. CDROMs and Disks are only so fast... And network downloads are not going to be as snappy as even a 2x cdrom anytime soon... Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "u

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-02 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Anthony Kimball wrote: > > Lizard has a tetris game built in for those long waits... > Now THAT is cool. > It's a better idea to not have people waiting for a long time. Brian Fundakowski Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ ___

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-02 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Anthony Kimball wrote: > > Lizard has a tetris game built in for those long waits... > Now THAT is cool. > It's a better idea to not have people waiting for a long time. Brian Fundakowski Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ ___

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-02 Thread Anthony Kimball
Lizard has a tetris game built in for those long waits... Now THAT is cool. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-02 Thread Anthony Kimball
Lizard has a tetris game built in for those long waits... Now THAT is cool. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Wilko Bulte
As Mike Smith wrote ... > > > > Everyone should take a peak at http://www.troll.no/announce/lizard.html > > if you haven't already. Definately take a look at the screenshots. > > > > Lizard is a fully graphical Linux installation for Caldera Systems > >

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Wilko Bulte
As Mike Smith wrote ... > > > > Everyone should take a peak at http://www.troll.no/announce/lizard.html > > if you haven't already. Definately take a look at the screenshots. > > > > Lizard is a fully graphical Linux installation for Caldera Systems > >

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Alex Zepeda
> Feel free, just don't ask me questions about it since I honestly don't > have time right now to explain to many hundreds of people how to build > this stuff. In a nutshell, use egcs to compile everything from the > following list: turbovision 0.7, qt 1.42, libh 0.1 (see below). > > libh is th

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Alex Zepeda
On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, Josef Grosch wrote: > I have done installs on FreeBSD, Redhat, HP/UX, and Solaris and I have to > say that Redhat is very confusing. FreeBSD does have it's warts but it is > better than Redhat. HP/UX and Solaris also have their problems, just ask > Nicole Harrington how she li

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Alex Zepeda
> Feel free, just don't ask me questions about it since I honestly don't > have time right now to explain to many hundreds of people how to build > this stuff. In a nutshell, use egcs to compile everything from the > following list: turbovision 0.7, qt 1.42, libh 0.1 (see below). > > libh is the

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Alex Zepeda
On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, Josef Grosch wrote: > I have done installs on FreeBSD, Redhat, HP/UX, and Solaris and I have to > say that Redhat is very confusing. FreeBSD does have it's warts but it is > better than Redhat. HP/UX and Solaris also have their problems, just ask > Nicole Harrington how she lik

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Josef Grosch
On Thu, Jul 01, 1999 at 03:18:00PM -0700, Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson wrote: > On Thu, 01 Jul 1999, Matthew Jacob was heard blurting out: > > > > > > That being said... I've heard some of my ex-coworkers (who were all > > > FreeBSD people when they worked here) come up to me in this impressed >

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Josef Grosch
On Thu, Jul 01, 1999 at 03:18:00PM -0700, Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson wrote: > On Thu, 01 Jul 1999, Matthew Jacob was heard blurting out: > > > > > > That being said... I've heard some of my ex-coworkers (who were all > > > FreeBSD people when they worked here) come up to me in this impressed > >

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> Would it be possible to have this code put up for www/ftp or > something, so that anyone who is interested could have a look? Feel free, just don't ask me questions about it since I honestly don't have time right now to explain to many hundreds of people how to build this stuff. In a nutshell,

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> Would it be possible to have this code put up for www/ftp or > something, so that anyone who is interested could have a look? Feel free, just don't ask me questions about it since I honestly don't have time right now to explain to many hundreds of people how to build this stuff. In a nutshell,

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Thomas David Rivers
> > > That being said... I've heard some of my ex-coworkers (who were all > > FreeBSD people when they worked here) come up to me in this impressed > > tone: "You wouldn't believe how much easier it is to install RedHat!'. > > *sigh* I'm not bitching... just being loyal :) > > That's ridiculous.

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Thomas David Rivers
> > > That being said... I've heard some of my ex-coworkers (who were all > > FreeBSD people when they worked here) come up to me in this impressed > > tone: "You wouldn't believe how much easier it is to install RedHat!'. > > *sigh* I'm not bitching... just being loyal :) > > That's ridiculous.

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson
On Thu, 01 Jul 1999, Matthew Jacob was heard blurting out: > > > That being said... I've heard some of my ex-coworkers (who were all > > FreeBSD people when they worked here) come up to me in this impressed > > tone: "You wouldn't believe how much easier it is to install RedHat!'. > > *sigh* I'm

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson
On Thu, 01 Jul 1999, Matthew Jacob was heard blurting out: > > > That being said... I've heard some of my ex-coworkers (who were all > > FreeBSD people when they worked here) come up to me in this impressed > > tone: "You wouldn't believe how much easier it is to install RedHat!'. > > *sigh* I'm

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Matthew Jacob
> That being said... I've heard some of my ex-coworkers (who were all > FreeBSD people when they worked here) come up to me in this impressed > tone: "You wouldn't believe how much easier it is to install RedHat!'. > *sigh* I'm not bitching... just being loyal :) That's ridiculous. I've used bot

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Matthew Jacob
> That being said... I've heard some of my ex-coworkers (who were all > FreeBSD people when they worked here) come up to me in this impressed > tone: "You wouldn't believe how much easier it is to install RedHat!'. > *sigh* I'm not bitching... just being loyal :) That's ridiculous. I've used both

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Steve Ames
> > Everyone should take a peak at http://www.troll.no/announce/lizard.html > > if you haven't already. Definately take a look at the screenshots. > > > > Lizard is a fully graphical Linux installation for Caldera Systems > > Open Linux. IMO, having an easy

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Steve Ames
> > Everyone should take a peak at http://www.troll.no/announce/lizard.html > > if you haven't already. Definately take a look at the screenshots. > > > > Lizard is a fully graphical Linux installation for Caldera Systems > > Open Linux. IMO, having an easy

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Mike Smith
> > Everyone should take a peak at http://www.troll.no/announce/lizard.html > if you haven't already. Definately take a look at the screenshots. > > Lizard is a fully graphical Linux installation for Caldera Systems > Open Linux. IMO, having an easy, reliable and attra

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Mike Smith
> > Everyone should take a peak at http://www.troll.no/announce/lizard.html > if you haven't already. Definately take a look at the screenshots. > > Lizard is a fully graphical Linux installation for Caldera Systems > Open Linux. IMO, having an easy, reliable and attra

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Nathan Ahlstrom
> My bad, as the current generation says, and it's a major item on my > TODO list to spend about 2 days pouring through his code and > generating a comprehensive set of comments about where to go from > there. Unfortunately, this code is also in the very early stages and > represents about 34,00

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Nathan Ahlstrom
> My bad, as the current generation says, and it's a major item on my > TODO list to spend about 2 days pouring through his code and > generating a comprehensive set of comments about where to go from > there. Unfortunately, this code is also in the very early stages and > represents about 34,000

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Matthew Jacob
> > What actual marketing information do we actually have that says that in > > order to go after the desktops we aren't currently installed on we have to > > add a lot of engineering effort to the installer? Would it be better to > > Well, just to clear up what looks like a misunderstanding in

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Matthew Jacob
> > What actual marketing information do we actually have that says that in > > order to go after the desktops we aren't currently installed on we have to > > add a lot of engineering effort to the installer? Would it be better to > > Well, just to clear up what looks like a misunderstanding in t

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> What actual marketing information do we actually have that says that in > order to go after the desktops we aren't currently installed on we have to > add a lot of engineering effort to the installer? Would it be better to Well, just to clear up what looks like a misunderstanding in the making,

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> What actual marketing information do we actually have that says that in > order to go after the desktops we aren't currently installed on we have to > add a lot of engineering effort to the installer? Would it be better to Well, just to clear up what looks like a misunderstanding in the making,

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Matthew Jacob
>OK, I'll add a few comments to this. And I'll respond... The actual pros and cons of the current installer and what a new one would look like is not the real question to answer here,... I have to say that what we have isn't that bad- it fails only in some areas where it violates the principle

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Matthew Jacob
>OK, I'll add a few comments to this. And I'll respond... The actual pros and cons of the current installer and what a new one would look like is not the real question to answer here,... I have to say that what we have isn't that bad- it fails only in some areas where it violates the principle o

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
y should *I* beef so > much? I'm not writing or maintaining sysinst...) OK, I'll add a few comments to this. I've looked at the screen shots to lizard and have to say that for a certain type of user, it looks pretty approachable. That type of user is specifically the Windows

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
y should *I* beef so > much? I'm not writing or maintaining sysinst...) OK, I'll add a few comments to this. I've looked at the screen shots to lizard and have to say that for a certain type of user, it looks pretty approachable. That type of user is specifically the Windows

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Matthew Jacob
> if it gave me lots more diagnostics. Joe Average, on the other hand, > likes a spiffy, clean interface. We try to accomodate both types by > having a simplistic install and then some detail output on a seperate > VTY. This could still be done with an even spiffier graphical installation > on th

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Matthew Jacob
> if it gave me lots more diagnostics. Joe Average, on the other hand, > likes a spiffy, clean interface. We try to accomodate both types by > having a simplistic install and then some detail output on a seperate > VTY. This could still be done with an even spiffier graphical installation > on the

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Steve Ames
first VTY. Wonder if it utilizes the VGALIB? (Lizard that is) > Reminds me of SCO. I personally don't much like it- it makes it harder > than hell to figure out what's gone wrong when it doesn't work. > > On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, Steve Ames wrote: > > > > > Ever

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Steve Ames
first VTY. Wonder if it utilizes the VGALIB? (Lizard that is) > Reminds me of SCO. I personally don't much like it- it makes it harder > than hell to figure out what's gone wrong when it doesn't work. > > On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, Steve Ames wrote: > > > > > Ever

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Matthew Jacob
;t already. Definately take a look at the screenshots. > > Lizard is a fully graphical Linux installation for Caldera Systems > Open Linux. IMO, having an easy, reliable and attractive installer > is an excellent selling point. > > Just something to ponder... > >

Re: Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Matthew Jacob
;t already. Definately take a look at the screenshots. > > Lizard is a fully graphical Linux installation for Caldera Systems > Open Linux. IMO, having an easy, reliable and attractive installer > is an excellent selling point. > > Just something to ponder... > >

Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Steve Ames
Everyone should take a peak at http://www.troll.no/announce/lizard.html if you haven't already. Definately take a look at the screenshots. Lizard is a fully graphical Linux installation for Caldera Systems Open Linux. IMO, having an easy, reliable and attractive installer is an exce

Lizard...

1999-07-01 Thread Steve Ames
Everyone should take a peak at http://www.troll.no/announce/lizard.html if you haven't already. Definately take a look at the screenshots. Lizard is a fully graphical Linux installation for Caldera Systems Open Linux. IMO, having an easy, reliable and attractive installer is an excellent se