Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8

2003-08-27 Thread Gianmarco Giovannelli
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 23:26, Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote: >[...] > It should work both on 4.x and 5.x branch as well. > The work is still in progress and we think to assimilate later (when it > will be finished) in the freesbie project (www.freebsdie.org) . > > Btw also in this first stage of

Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8

2003-08-27 Thread Gianmarco Giovannelli
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 17:32, Robert Watson wrote: > As has been mentioned, the FreeBSD source tree as shipped isn't configured > for minimization without a fair amount of effort. However, there are a Hi all, we are developing a small set of scripts that are based on minibsd (http://neon1.n

Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8

2003-08-27 Thread Fred Clift
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, John Birrell wrote: > On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 01:28:14PM -0500, Tyler Kellen wrote: > > What I'd really like to know is how to strip down a working system. If ... > > One way to do this initially is to install a full FreeBSD system on one > disk partition and use a second par

Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8

2003-08-27 Thread Robert Watson
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Brian Reichert wrote: > On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 07:26:10AM +1000, John Birrell wrote: > > One way to do this initially is to install a full FreeBSD system on one > > disk partition and use a second partition for a trial install. FreeBSD's > > boot manager will let you boot in

Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8

2003-08-27 Thread Bill Vermillion
While humming that old rock song Yackety Yacc - Dont Awk Back [EMAIL PROTECTED] sang or SED something like this: > -- > Message: 10 > Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:53:38 +1000 > From: Greg Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Minimalist FreeB

Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8

2003-08-27 Thread Brian Reichert
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 07:26:10AM +1000, John Birrell wrote: > One way to do this initially is to install a full FreeBSD system on one > disk partition and use a second partition for a trial install. FreeBSD's > boot manager will let you boot into each. As I'm pursuing these matters as well, I've

Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8

2003-08-27 Thread Robert Watson
As has been mentioned, the FreeBSD source tree as shipped isn't configured for minimization without a fair amount of effort. However, there are a number of larger components, typically maintained by third parties, that are build-time removable, and are typically arguments to the build specified in

Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8

2003-08-27 Thread Igor Pokrovsky
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 07:02:16PM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 10:53:38AM +1000, Greg Black wrote: > >On 2003-08-26, Diomidis Spinellis wrote: > >> You can use the system the way you intent to for two weeks, and then run > >> > >> find / -atime +2w -print0 | xargs -0 rm -f

Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8

2003-08-27 Thread Peter Jeremy
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 10:53:38AM +1000, Greg Black wrote: >On 2003-08-26, Diomidis Spinellis wrote: >> You can use the system the way you intent to for two weeks, and then run >> >> find / -atime +2w -print0 | xargs -0 rm -f >> >> This command will delete all files that have not been accessed w

Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8

2003-08-27 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Louis A. Mamakos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : able to get a running system for that application on an 8MB CF card. I had one experimental version that compressed this onto a MFS and gzip'd the thing and made it fit into a 4MB DiskOnChip part with a co

Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8

2003-08-27 Thread Louis A. Mamakos
> Actually, I have a small script that does something like this. Here's > a breif sketch. > > # prepare /cf > make buildworld > > ${chroot} /bin/sh -${e}c "(cd $srcdir > env MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=$objdir make -m ${srcdir}/share/mk -f \ > Makefile.inc1 hierarchy DESTDIR=$dstdir

Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8

2003-08-27 Thread M. Warner Losh
Actually, I have a small script that does something like this. Here's a breif sketch. # prepare /cf make buildworld ${chroot} /bin/sh -${e}c "(cd $srcdir env MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=$objdir make -m ${srcdir}/share/mk -f \ Makefile.inc1 hierarchy DESTDIR=$dstdir NOMAN=yes

Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8

2003-08-27 Thread Greg Black
On 2003-08-26, Diomidis Spinellis wrote: > Tyler Kellen wrote: > > The information I'm looking to aquire is the absolute minimum files > > required to boot FreeBSD 4.8 into multi-user mode. If this involves > > deleting a massive amount of directories and files, or setting up a > > new drive and co

Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8

2003-08-26 Thread Brooks Davis
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 01:28:14PM -0500, Tyler Kellen wrote: > Tim, > > I've been pointed in the direction of the delete-and-reboot method a few > times before. I'd really like some pointers for trimming down quickly > that doesn't involve hours of trial and error. You might take a look at m0n0

Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8

2003-08-26 Thread John Birrell
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 01:28:14PM -0500, Tyler Kellen wrote: > What I'd really like to know is how to strip down a working system. If > This hasn't been done, I guess I'm looking for someone with the > knowledge and the time/generosity to help me figure it out. Once I get > there, I intend to po

Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8

2003-08-26 Thread John-Mark Gurney
Look in src/(contrib/)?/(usr.)?s?bin/prog for the source. Some things are a bit more tricky, and might be in a sub dir like bootpgw is in src/libexec/bootpd/bootpgw. But it's all in the source. Use the Soruce Luke. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8

2003-08-26 Thread Julian Elischer
as I have looked > pretty much everywhere I can think to look. Is there anything else you > can offer to get me moving in the desired direction? > > -T > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Kientzle > Sent:

Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8

2003-08-26 Thread Diomidis Spinellis
Tyler Kellen wrote: > The information I'm looking to aquire is the absolute minimum files > required to boot FreeBSD 4.8 into multi-user mode. If this involves > deleting a massive amount of directories and files, or setting up a > new drive and copying only the needed files, I think I can make it

Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8

2003-08-26 Thread Michael C. Cambria
Shawn wrote: On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 13:28, Tyler Kellen wrote: What I'd really like to know is how to strip down a working system. [deleted] Well, the best I can offer is a 'FreeBSD from scratch' article I found: http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200302/fbsdscratch.html Look at www.trewitt.org/Soekri

Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8

2003-08-26 Thread Bruce M Simpson
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 07:29:06PM +0100, Bruce M Simpson wrote: > On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 01:28:14PM -0500, Tyler Kellen wrote: > > What I'd really like to know is how to strip down a working system. If > > This hasn't been done, I guess I'm looking for someone with the > > knowledge and the time

RE: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8

2003-08-26 Thread Shawn
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 13:28, Tyler Kellen wrote: > What I'd really like to know is how to strip down a working system. If > This hasn't been done, I guess I'm looking for someone with the > knowledge and the time/generosity to help me figure it out. Once I get > there, I intend to post it on my w

Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8

2003-08-26 Thread Bruce M Simpson
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 01:28:14PM -0500, Tyler Kellen wrote: > What I'd really like to know is how to strip down a working system. If > This hasn't been done, I guess I'm looking for someone with the > knowledge and the time/generosity to help me figure it out. Once I get > there, I intend to po

RE: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8

2003-08-26 Thread Tyler Kellen
ffer to get me moving in the desired direction? -T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Kientzle Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 12:42 PM To: Tyler Kellen Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8 Tyler Kellen wrote: > I&

Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8

2003-08-26 Thread Tim Kientzle
Tyler Kellen wrote: I've got a 4.8 minimal install on an extra machine. As an LFS user I find the FreeBSD 4.8 minimal install to be pretty far from minimal. You've found one of the major differences between FreeBSD and Linux. In short, FreeBSD is a complete system. It's designed, developed, and ma

Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8

2003-08-26 Thread jeremie le-hen
> Can any of you help me out? Or point me to a truly minimal distribution > that uses FreeBSD 4.8? AFAIK, the only thing you can do is tuning your own /etc/make.conf (template in /etc/defaults/make.conf). Here is the interessant part : #NO_CVS=true# do not build CVS #NO_BIND= tru

Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8

2003-08-26 Thread Tyler Kellen
Hey all, I'm new to this mailing list and I'm certainly no FreeBSD hacker. I'm hoping one of you can help me out. I'd like to say I am a former linux user, but I'm not there yet. I currently run a linux from scratch box. I'd like to migrate to FreeBSD. I've got a 4.8 minimal install on an extra