My explanation to "a default DE" (was "Providing a default graphical environment on FreeBSD")

2012-09-17 Thread Zhihao Yuan
Hi, hackers: First, I'm not saying that I want an OS forcing you to installs a DE. If FreeBSD really does this, I'm going to switch to other BSDs :) The word "default" has nothing to do with "installed by default". It only means, when we are taking about "the" desktop environment under FreeBSD, w

Re: My explanation to "a default DE" (was "Providing a default graphical environment on FreeBSD")

2012-09-17 Thread Guido Falsi
On 09/17/12 21:13, Zhihao Yuan wrote: 1. Maximize graphical user experience by officially implementing Wifi helpers, auto-mounters; I think your examples are ill conceived. A good automounter definitely does not need a GUI. What I think of as a autmounter should just be some kind of backgroun

Re: My explanation to "a default DE" (was "Providing a default graphical environment on FreeBSD")

2012-09-17 Thread Zhihao Yuan
On Sep 17, 2012 4:04 PM, "Guido Falsi" wrote: > > On 09/17/12 21:13, Zhihao Yuan wrote: >> >> 1. Maximize graphical user experience by officially implementing Wifi >> helpers, auto-mounters; > > > A good automounter definitely does not need a GUI. > … > BTW for this case too there is a whole set o

Re: My explanation to "a default DE" (was "Providing a default graphical environment on FreeBSD")

2012-09-17 Thread Adrian Chadd
Again, I think the best thing you can do is find a few people who are aligned with what you're trying to achieve, sketch together something, write up a few applets/applications, and get them into a port. I then think the best thing to do is talk/work with the PCBSD people to get this stuff integra

Re: My explanation to "a default DE" (was "Providing a default graphical environment on FreeBSD")

2012-09-17 Thread Guido Falsi
On 09/18/12 00:23, Zhihao Yuan wrote: On Sep 17, 2012 4:04 PM, "Guido Falsi" mailto:m...@madpilot.net>> wrote: > > On 09/17/12 21:13, Zhihao Yuan wrote: >> >> 1. Maximize graphical user experience by officially implementing Wifi >> helpers, auto-mounters; > > > A good automounter definite

Re: My explanation to "a default DE" (was "Providing a default graphical environment on FreeBSD")

2012-09-18 Thread Mike Meyer
Zhihao Yuan wrote: >As u can see, it's a stand alone app. But the most widely used wifi >managers are always taskbar applets -- something bound to a specific >DE. -- There are a number of taskbar applications not bound to a DE (dzen2, mobar, gkrellm2) which have plugins for managing the kinds