On 29-Jul-2004 William Kirkland wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 07:39:31PM -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
>> Just musing on an idea here:
>>
>> I've been thinking for a while now about trying to write a tool to
>> make kernel configuration easier, sort of a "make config" (as in
>> ports) for t
On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 07:39:31PM -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
> Just musing on an idea here:
>
> I've been thinking for a while now about trying to write a tool to make
> kernel configuration easier, sort of a "make config" (as in ports) for
> the kernel, similar to what's available on some
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Allan Fields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 04:21:10PM -0700, Jake Hamby wrote:
: > M. Warner Losh wrote:
: > >
: > >What's wrong with adding:
: > >
: > >makeoptions MODULES_OVERRIDE="a b c"
: > >to your config file? It is already
On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 04:21:10PM -0700, Jake Hamby wrote:
> M. Warner Losh wrote:
> >
> >What's wrong with adding:
> >
> >makeoptions MODULES_OVERRIDE="a b c"
> >to your config file? It is already supported.
Though, I've used this before to good effect (on slow crash-box):
There's no mention
M. Warner Losh wrote:
What's wrong with adding:
makeoptions MODULES_OVERRIDE="a b c"
to your config file? It is already supported.
Nothing, I just didn't know about it! Thanks to all who replied with
the answer...
-Jake
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Jake Hamby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
: > On 21-Jul-2004 Devon H. O'Dell wrote:
: >
: >
: >>I'm sure this will become another bikeshed, so I suggest whoever came
: >>up with the idea to put up or shut up. People are interest
On Fri, 2004-Jul-23 20:50:01 -0700, Jake Hamby wrote:
>My biggest annoyance with building the kernel, compared to Linux, is
>that it insists on building all of the possible kernel modules, even
>though I only want to build the ones that make sense for my hardware.
I think you want the following
Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
On 21-Jul-2004 Devon H. O'Dell wrote:
I'm sure this will become another bikeshed, so I suggest whoever came
up with the idea to put up or shut up. People are interested in
solutions, not suggestions.
Agreed. And the original proponent of the idea was me. I just wanted
Hi, re rule-based configuration Chris Pressey noted:
> That's the easy part. The hard part is discovering the dependencies.
My impression is that almost all rule-based expert
systems of sufficient complexity that deal with a
dynamic field have failed because of this, that is,
due to the dif
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 19:39:31 -0500 (CDT)
"Conrad J. Sabatier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just musing on an idea here:
>
> I've been thinking for a while now about trying to write a tool to
> make kernel configuration easier, sort of a "make config" (as in
> ports) for the kernel, similar to wha
> The debate here is automation vs. simplification. Why we shouldn't
> simplificate the kernel compile ? Because our user base's average IQ will
> be lower ? We're not suggesting to have KDE installed by default here.
> Users would still to have to type the commands to compile the kernel by
> hand
0),
Open (ENTRY+2), Read (ENTRY+4)
- a place to define major:minor numbers and the rules / options
pertaining thereto,
- and finally how to return data and driver status.
Fun.
mjt
On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 06:41, Bruce R. Montague wrote:
>
> Hi, re, "Next Gen
> You confuse automation, with simplification.
> Automation tools are good for frequently re-run tasks.
> How often do you recompile your kernel?
>
> exactly.
In my opinion, the least we could do is have it as a port/package. For the
make check dependencies, that could be a great idea to comm
On 21-Jul-2004 Devon H. O'Dell wrote:
> I'm sure this will become another bikeshed, so I suggest whoever came
> up with the idea to put up or shut up. People are interested in
> solutions, not suggestions.
Agreed. And the original proponent of the idea was me. I just wanted
to see if there was
On 21-Jul-2004 M. Warner Losh wrote:
> In message:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Murray Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>: As an initial starting point for 'preloading' any menubased kernel
>: configurator, could the file /var/run/dmesg.boot be usefully parsed
>: as
>: a list of 'this is
On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 02:52:07PM +0200, Devon H. O'Dell wrote:
> I wholly disagree. I think using an excuse ``people will let everything
> else do the work for them and nobody will ever learn'' to discourage the
> development of automation tools is very poor. Try applying that argument
> to an
Hi, re, "Next Generation" kernel configuration:
Years ago I had a job for a few years where I
constantly built RSX-11 systems on PDP-11s. RSX-11
was always built from source and had a couple of
hundred build-time options, many hardware build
dependencies, and supported numerous oth
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Murray Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: As an initial starting point for 'preloading' any menubased kernel
: configurator, could the file /var/run/dmesg.boot be usefully parsed as
: a list of 'this is what is actually installed in this box, what else
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On Wednesday 21 July 2004 01:00 pm, Andrew Konstantinov wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 05:43:45AM -0700, Avleen Vig wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 07:39:31PM -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
> > > Just musing on an idea here:
> > >
> > > I've bee
On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 05:43:45AM -0700, Avleen Vig wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 07:39:31PM -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
> > Just musing on an idea here:
> >
> > I've been thinking for a while now about trying to write a tool to make
> > kernel configuration easier, sort of a "make config
Avleen Vig wrote:
On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 07:39:31PM -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
Just musing on an idea here:
I've been thinking for a while now about trying to write a tool to make
kernel configuration easier, sort of a "make config" (as in ports) for
the kernel, similar to what's available o
On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 07:39:31PM -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
> Just musing on an idea here:
>
> I've been thinking for a while now about trying to write a tool to make
> kernel configuration easier, sort of a "make config" (as in ports) for
> the kernel, similar to what's available on some
On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 11:53, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
> On 21-Jul-2004 Max Laier wrote:
> > On Wednesday 21 July 2004 03:03, Brooks Davis wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 07:39:31PM -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
> [snip]
> >> > A dependable tool offering a menu-driven means of configuring th
On 21-Jul-2004 Max Laier wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 July 2004 03:03, Brooks Davis wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 07:39:31PM -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
[snip]
>> > A dependable tool offering a menu-driven means of configuring the
>> > kernel, ensuring proper config file syntax, dependency ha
On 21-Jul-2004 Brooks Davis wrote:
> You can have my simple flat file kernel config when you pry it from
> my cold, dead hands and I know a number of other develoeprs share
> this viewpoint. All my experiences with the linux visual kernel
> config tool have been annoying and I've got friends with
On Wednesday 21 July 2004 03:03, Brooks Davis wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 07:39:31PM -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
> > Just musing on an idea here:
> >
> > I've been thinking for a while now about trying to write a tool to make
> > kernel configuration easier, sort of a "make config" (as in
On 21-Jul-2004 Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
[snip]
> Has this ever come up for discussion before? Now that we have rcNG,
> with its explicit declarations of dependencies, has any thought been
> given to doing something similar with kernel configuration files?
> Something still human-readable, yet
On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 07:39:31PM -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
> Just musing on an idea here:
>
> I've been thinking for a while now about trying to write a tool to make
> kernel configuration easier, sort of a "make config" (as in ports) for
> the kernel, similar to what's available on some
Just musing on an idea here:
I've been thinking for a while now about trying to write a tool to make
kernel configuration easier, sort of a "make config" (as in ports) for
the kernel, similar to what's available on some of the Linux distros.
Ideally, such a tool would be capable of automatically
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