Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-10-15 Thread Richard Tobin
> Yeah... Think Sun2 systems > > http://www.netbsd.org/Documentation/network/netboot/nd.html Though it wasn't just for booting in the old days. On a diskless workstation, your whole filesystem would be on nd. And it was a real mistake to mount a writable partition on two machines, but nothi

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-10-15 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 12:28:12AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 10:44:14PM +0200, Oldach, Helge wrote: > > > From: Richard Tobin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Ok, GEOM Gate is ready for testing. > > > > > For those who don't know what it is, the

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-10-15 Thread Terry Lambert
Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 10:44:14PM +0200, Oldach, Helge wrote: > > From: Richard Tobin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Ok, GEOM Gate is ready for testing. > > > > For those who don't know what it is, they can read README: > > > > > > Aaargh! It's the return of nd(4) from Sun

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-10-14 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 10:44:14PM +0200, Oldach, Helge wrote: > From: Richard Tobin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Ok, GEOM Gate is ready for testing. > > > For those who don't know what it is, they can read README: > > > > Aaargh! It's the return of nd(4) from SunOS. > > Excuse me? > > # una

RE: GEOM Gate.

2003-10-14 Thread Oldach, Helge
From: Richard Tobin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Ok, GEOM Gate is ready for testing. > > For those who don't know what it is, they can read README: > > Aaargh! It's the return of nd(4) from SunOS. Excuse me? # uname -a SunOS galaxy 4.1.4 18 sun4m # man nd No manual entry for nd. # Helge _

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-10-14 Thread Richard Tobin
> Ok, GEOM Gate is ready for testing. > For those who don't know what it is, they can read README: Aaargh! It's the return of nd(4) from SunOS. (Sorry about that.) -- Richard ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-19 Thread Terry Lambert
Attila Nagy wrote: > Terry Lambert wrote: > > It works on firewire and it works on a dual port RAID array (as a > > separate box containing the RAID array). > > What does 'it' means? I guess it's not UFS, but the pure ability of > sharing a device on a bus, connected to more than one adapters. Th

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-19 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dan Nelson writes: >I think this just demonstrates that you should not run benchmarks with >all your debugging flags enabled :) Most people will not be running >production systems with WITNESS, and parts of the kernel that bog down >under the heavy load of WITNESS

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-17 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Aug 17), Pawel Jakub Dawidek said: > On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 08:50:30PM -0500, Dan Nelson wrote: > +> What kind of hardware were you using? 2.5MB/sec NFS sounds > +> abysmal. > > I don't think it is a hardware problem. > > Run this test on 5.1-CURRENT with: > > options

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-17 Thread Attila Nagy
Terry Lambert wrote: It works on firewire and it works on a dual port RAID array (as a separate box containing the RAID array). What does 'it' means? I guess it's not UFS, but the pure ability of sharing a device on a bus, connected to more than one adapters. SAN and NAS are also options, but of

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-17 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Pawel Jakub Dawidek writes : > >--X8oaj2qX3NXXvcHN >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 >Content-Disposition: inline >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 11:53:11AM -0400, Robert Watson wrote: >+> That said, I think the geo

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-16 Thread Pawel Jakub Dawidek
On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 08:50:30PM -0500, Dan Nelson wrote: +> What kind of hardware were you using? 2.5MB/sec NFS sounds abysmal. I don't think it is a hardware problem. Run this test on 5.1-CURRENT with: options INVARIANTS options INVARIANT_SUPPORT options WITNESS an

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-16 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Aug 17), Pawel Jakub Dawidek said: > On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 11:53:11AM -0400, Robert Watson wrote: > +> That said, I think the geom gate stuff looks very cool :-). You > +> might be able to run some interesting performance numbers > +> comparing NFS and UFS over a remote bloc

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-16 Thread Pawel Jakub Dawidek
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 11:53:11AM -0400, Robert Watson wrote: +> That said, I think the geom gate stuff looks very cool :-). You might be +> able to run some interesting performance numbers comparing NFS and UFS +> over a remote block device. Ok. After last geom gate optimizations I'm ready to s

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-15 Thread Terry Lambert
Attila Nagy wrote: > Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: > > It'll be, but probably in read-write mode on one machine and read-only > > mode on rest machines, because you don't export file systems here, but > > disk devices. > > This doesn't work on a shared SCSI bus, so I suspect sharing the device > on t

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-15 Thread Peter Jeremy
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 11:01:47AM +0200, Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: >On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 06:44:14PM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: >+> >But there are two problems: >+> >1. Device major numbers. >+> >+> I don't see this as a problem - you do the name to major/minor mapping >+> on the remote system

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-15 Thread Robert Watson
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003, Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: > On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 09:48:57PM +0200, Attila Nagy wrote: > +> Bruce M Simpson wrote: > +> >Whatever next? PCI-over-IP? > +> Collecting cheap on board serial lines to make a big terminal server > +> makes sense to me :) > +> > +> BTW, Pawel's

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-15 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 01:51:03PM +0200, Attila Nagy wrote: > Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: > >It'll be, but probably in read-write mode on one machine and read-only > >mode on rest machines, because you don't export file systems here, but > >disk devices. > This doesn't work on a shared SCSI bus, so

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-15 Thread Attila Nagy
Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: It'll be, but probably in read-write mode on one machine and read-only mode on rest machines, because you don't export file systems here, but disk devices. This doesn't work on a shared SCSI bus, so I suspect sharing the device on the net won't help. -- Attila Nagy

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-15 Thread Pawel Jakub Dawidek
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 09:48:57PM +0200, Attila Nagy wrote: +> Bruce M Simpson wrote: +> >Whatever next? PCI-over-IP? +> Collecting cheap on board serial lines to make a big terminal server +> makes sense to me :) +> +> BTW, Pawel's stuff would be even more interesting if it would be +> possibl

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-15 Thread Attila Nagy
Bruce M Simpson wrote: Whatever next? PCI-over-IP? Collecting cheap on board serial lines to make a big terminal server makes sense to me :) BTW, Pawel's stuff would be even more interesting if it would be possible to mount the same filesystem on more than one machines. -- Attila Nagy

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-15 Thread Pawel Jakub Dawidek
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 06:44:14PM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: +> >But there are two problems: +> >1. Device major numbers. +> +> I don't see this as a problem - you do the name to major/minor mapping +> on the remote system. All that goes across the network is the device +> name (filename in /dev

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-15 Thread Peter Jeremy
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 10:29:09PM +0200, Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: >On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 09:52:25PM +0400, Buckie wrote: >+> BTW, QNX had this for a long time, it's called QNet in there. Allows >+> transparently to mount or use anything in /dev. Even a soundcard! > >I think this isn't really h

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-14 Thread neq5
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 01:03:27PM +0200, Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: > This software provide disk devices mounting through the network. maaan you're amazing. i hope some day you'll write remote terminal emulator. that would be great. -- klub milosnikow czeskiego techno _

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-14 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 01:03:27PM +0200, Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: > Hello hackers... > > I've done something what will be called GEOM Gate. > This software provide disk devices mounting through the network. > > http://garage.freebsd.pl/geom_gate.tbz Cute...! reminds me of RFS on SysV.

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-14 Thread Pawel Jakub Dawidek
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 09:52:25PM +0400, Buckie wrote: +> BTW, QNX had this for a long time, it's called QNet in there. Allows +> transparently to mount or use anything in /dev. Even a soundcard! I think this isn't really hard to implement. But there are two problems: 1. Device major numbers. 2.

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-14 Thread Bruce M Simpson
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 09:52:25PM +0400, Buckie wrote: > BTW, QNX had this for a long time, it's called QNet in there. Allows > transparently to mount or use anything in /dev. Even a soundcard! Whatever next? PCI-over-IP? *shudder* BMS ___ [EMAIL PROTE

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-14 Thread Lars Eggert
Bruce M Simpson wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 09:52:25PM +0400, Buckie wrote: BTW, QNX had this for a long time, it's called QNet in there. Allows transparently to mount or use anything in /dev. Even a soundcard! Whatever next? PCI-over-IP? *shudder* Not new: http://www.isi.edu/div7/netstation/

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-14 Thread Buckie
BTW, QNX had this for a long time, it's called QNet in there. Allows transparently to mount or use anything in /dev. Even a soundcard! PJD> Hello hackers... PJD> I've done something what will be called GEOM Gate. PJD> This software provide disk devices mounting through the network. PJD>

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-14 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Pawel Jakub Dawidek writes : > >--Dx9iWuMxHO1cCoFc >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 >Content-Disposition: inline >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >Hello hackers... > >I've done something what will be called GEOM Gate. >This software provide