Re: Worst case swapping.

2000-06-13 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Matthew Dillon wrote: One of the reasons I would like to see an actual 'ps axl' output during one of these heavy paging periods rather then someone's analysis of the output, is to check things like this. Don't look at me. After half an hour waiting, all I had managed to was

Re: Worst case swapping.

2000-06-13 Thread Julian Elischer
Daniel C. Sobral wrote: Matthew Dillon wrote: One of the reasons I would like to see an actual 'ps axl' output during one of these heavy paging periods rather then someone's analysis of the output, is to check things like this. Don't look at me. After half an hour

RE: Worst case swapping.

2000-06-13 Thread Nguyen, Olivier T [AMSTA-AR-CCF-D]
: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 12:43 PM To: Daniel C. Sobral Cc: Matthew Dillon; David Gilbert; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Worst case swapping. Daniel C. Sobral wrote: Matthew Dillon wrote: One of the reasons I would like to see an actual 'ps axl' output during one of these heavy paging

Re: Worst case swapping.

2000-06-13 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Julian Elischer wrote: Daniel C. Sobral wrote: Matthew Dillon wrote: One of the reasons I would like to see an actual 'ps axl' output during one of these heavy paging periods rather then someone's analysis of the output, is to check things like this. Don't look

Re: Worst case swapping.

2000-06-13 Thread Matthew Dillon
: :Matthew Dillon wrote: : : One of the reasons I would like to see an actual 'ps axl' output : during one of these heavy paging periods rather then someone's analysis : of the output, is to check things like this. : :Don't look at me. After half an hour waiting, all I had managed

Re: Worst case swapping.

2000-06-12 Thread Jacob Bohn Lorensen
"Matthew" == Matthew Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Matthew :Believe me, I look at these things. Yes there is a lot Matthew going on and a :lot using memory. I normally have about Matthew 20% to 25% of my Gig of swap :used... meaning that I have Matthew allocated roughly

Re: Worst case swapping.

2000-06-12 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
David Gilbert wrote: I'm positive that its not a case of the working set being larger than physical memory; it's one of choice of page to swap. You are positively wrong, then. :-) Active pages are _always_ last resort with the algorithm FreeBSD uses. You mention Netscape is the only active

Re: Worst case swapping.

2000-06-12 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Tue, Jun 13, 2000 at 04:40:48AM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: David Gilbert wrote: I'm positive that its not a case of the working set being larger than physical memory; it's one of choice of page to swap. You are positively wrong, then. :-) Active pages are _always_ last resort

Re: Worst case swapping.

2000-06-12 Thread Matthew Dillon
:David Gilbert wrote: : : I'm positive that its not a case of the working set being larger than : physical memory; it's one of choice of page to swap. : :You are positively wrong, then. :-) Active pages are _always_ last :resort with the algorithm FreeBSD uses. : :You mention Netscape is the

Worst case swapping.

2000-06-11 Thread David Gilbert
I'm running a 700Mhz K7 with 256M of RAM as my workstation. I have two fast SCSI drives with a Gig of swap between them. The system shouldn't normally be a bottleneck as a workstation. I find, however, that there seem to be some bad worst-case senerios popping up rather often. Netscape is a

Re: Worst case swapping.

2000-06-11 Thread Matthew Dillon
:I'm running a 700Mhz K7 with 256M of RAM as my workstation. I have :two fast SCSI drives with a Gig of swap between them. The system :shouldn't normally be a bottleneck as a workstation. : :I find, however, that there seem to be some bad worst-case senerios :popping up rather often. :...

Re: Worst case swapping.

2000-06-11 Thread David Gilbert
"Matthew" == Matthew Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Matthew :Now the application in question (Netscape) usually runs Matthew around 50 to :75 megs, so that swapping activity is Matthew effectively swapping an amount Matthew 50-75MB is a lot, but if you have 256MB of ram it can't Matthew

Re: Worst case swapping.

2000-06-11 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Believe me, I look at these things. Yes there is a lot going on and a :lot using memory. I normally have about 20% to 25% of my Gig of swap :used... meaning that I have allocated roughly double my RAM in :applications. : :And when this worst-case happens, memory is full... but the only

Re: Worst case swapping.

2000-06-11 Thread Kent Stewart
Matthew Dillon wrote: :Believe me, I look at these things. Yes there is a lot going on and a :lot using memory. I normally have about 20% to 25% of my Gig of swap :used... meaning that I have allocated roughly double my RAM in :applications. : :And when this worst-case happens, memory

Re: Worst case swapping.

2000-06-11 Thread Brian Hechinger
Kent Stewart drunkenly mumbled... Netscape reallys goes to pot in a hurry if you allow it to use more than 1-2MB of memory cache. A friend was seeing a terrible response and tracked it back to Netscape's memory cache. He had a lot of memory and started out with something on the order of

Re: Worst case swapping.

2000-06-11 Thread David Scheidt
On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, Brian Hechinger wrote: :Kent Stewart drunkenly mumbled... : : Netscape reallys goes to pot in a hurry if you allow it to use more : than 1-2MB of memory cache. A friend was seeing a terrible response : and tracked it back to Netscape's memory cache. He had a lot of memory :