As far I can tell it's now April 2nd in all time zones.
Can we now end this thread?
thank you,
-Alfred
On 4/2/13 6:22 AM, Paul Schenkeveld wrote:
On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 10:22:20AM +, Ruben de Groot wrote:
On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 03:10:56AM -0700, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk typed:
On Tue, Ap
Goodness gracious, did no one see the date on the original post?
What's the limit on this fishing hole?
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On Apr 2, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Chris BeHanna wrote:
> Goodness gracious, did no one see the date on the original post?
>
> What's the limit on this fishing hole?
Three internet Trolls, two wise old owls and a april fool in a pear tree from
the looks of it.
Warner
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On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 10:22:20AM +, Ruben de Groot wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 03:10:56AM -0700, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk typed:
> > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav wrote:
> >
> > > Wojciech Puchar writes:
> > > > Lev Serebryakov writes:
> > > > > It is not exact so
On Apr 2, 2013, at 4:10 AM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
>
>> Wojciech Puchar writes:
>>> Lev Serebryakov writes:
It is not exact so. Some Atoms on some motherboards with some
firmwares are 64-bit CPU.
>>> don't know of an
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 4:41 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> Mehmet Erol Sanliturk writes:
> > I am NOT able to understand the merit of these products with respect
> > to their features and PRICES.
>
> Please stop SHOUTING, and learn to accept and respect the fact that
> other people have other
Mehmet Erol Sanliturk writes:
> I am NOT able to understand the merit of these products with respect
> to their features and PRICES.
Please stop SHOUTING, and learn to accept and respect the fact that
other people have other opinions and priorities than you do, and to stop
trying to force your wo
Am 02.04.2013 12:13, schrieb Kimmo Paasiala:
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
wrote:
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
Wojciech Puchar writes:
Lev Serebryakov writes:
It is not exact so. Some Atoms on some motherboards with some
firmwares are
On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 03:10:56AM -0700, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk typed:
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav wrote:
>
> > Wojciech Puchar writes:
> > > Lev Serebryakov writes:
> > > > It is not exact so. Some Atoms on some motherboards with some
> > > > firmwares are 64-bit CPU
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Achim Hut wrote:
> Am 02.04.2013 12:13, schrieb Kimmo Paasiala:
>
>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
>>>
Wojciech Puchar writes:
>
> Lev Serebryakov w
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
>
>> Wojciech Puchar writes:
>> > Lev Serebryakov writes:
>> > > It is not exact so. Some Atoms on some motherboards with some
>> > > firmwares are 64-bit CPU.
>> > don't kn
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> Wojciech Puchar writes:
> > Lev Serebryakov writes:
> > > It is not exact so. Some Atoms on some motherboards with some
> > > firmwares are 64-bit CPU.
> > don't know of any now in shops that are not
>
> http://soekris.com/products/ne
Hello, Dag-Erling.
You wrote 2 апреля 2013 г., 13:04:04:
DES> http://soekris.com/products/net6501.html
This one is 64-bit capable according to their mailing list
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Wojciech Puchar writes:
> Lev Serebryakov writes:
> > It is not exact so. Some Atoms on some motherboards with some
> > firmwares are 64-bit CPU.
> don't know of any now in shops that are not
http://soekris.com/products/net5501.html
http://soekris.com/products/net6501.html
DES
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On 01/04/13 20:31, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> Why stop there?
>
> Noone runs FreeBSD on real hardware anymore. Except, say netflix.
>
> Let's just drop actual native hardware support and instead support
> only the bare minimum needed to boot inside vmware, virtualbox and
> xen.
>
> Anyone needing rea
On 01/04/2013 23:11, Joe Holden wrote:
> Adrian Chadd wrote:
>> Why stop there?
>>
>> Noone runs FreeBSD on real hardware anymore. Except, say netflix.
>>
I run on my personal notebook.
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Adrian Chadd wrote:
Why stop there?
Noone runs FreeBSD on real hardware anymore. Except, say netflix.
Let's just drop actual native hardware support and instead support
only the bare minimum needed to boot inside vmware, virtualbox and
xen.
Anyone needing real hardware support can install NetB
Hello, Wojciech.
You wrote 1 апреля 2013 г., 22:31:51:
>> It is not exact so. Some Atoms on some motherboards with some
>> firmwares are 64-bit CPU.
WP> don't know of any now in shops that are not
Are you sure about Chinese-made MoBos with 6x1G on-board NICs and
soldered memory and other such
On 04/01/2013 12:48 AM, Eitan Adler wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am writing this email to discuss the i386 architecture in FreeBSD.
>
> Computers are getting faster, but also more memory intensive. I
> can not find a laptop with less than 4 or 8 GB of RAM. Modern
> browsers, such as Firefox, require a 64
You should also check your calendar :)
This is one of the finest pieces of April Fools' Day trolling I've
seen in quite some time. I'd rank it right up there with that press
release from some years ago about Microsoft's acquisition of the Roman
Catholic Church.
anyway Easter at 1 april for me
WP> still 64-bit - CPU.
It is not exact so. Some Atoms on some motherboards with some
firmwares are 64-bit CPU.
don't know of any now in shops that are not
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Why stop there?
Noone runs FreeBSD on real hardware anymore. Except, say netflix.
Let's just drop actual native hardware support and instead support
only the bare minimum needed to boot inside vmware, virtualbox and
xen.
Anyone needing real hardware support can install NetBSD and xen.
Adrian
Hello, Wojciech.
You wrote 1 апреля 2013 г., 20:03:27:
>> that it is NOT necessary to make it a first class branch . 1 Giga Bytes ,
>> and even 2 Giga Bytes memory chips are disappearing from the computer shops
>> slowly .
WP> at now 2GB RAM is smallest you can get, and intel atom is lowest end -
On 4/1/13, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> You're assuming that maintaining i386 as a tier 1 platform really *does*
> add significantly to our workload.
Indeed. We don't seem to be running into a ton of issues on this
front, and I do still find my 32-bit only Atom-based netbook useful
when traveling
that it is NOT necessary to make it a first class branch . 1 Giga Bytes ,
and even 2 Giga Bytes memory chips are disappearing from the computer shops
slowly .
at now 2GB RAM is smallest you can get, and intel atom is lowest end - but
still 64-bit - CPU.
At present , there is NO any processor
Computers are getting faster, but also more memory intensive. I
can not find a laptop with less than 4 or 8 GB of RAM. Modern
browsers, such as Firefox, require a 64bit architecture and 8GB of
RAM.
what? i rarely see firefox exceed 1GB and it is already way too much IMHO.
? A 32 bit platform
On 04/01/13 06:39, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> Mehmet Erol Sanliturk writes:
>> At present, there is NO any processor which is ONLY 32-bits.
>
> All the world is not a PC. There are still 32-bit x86-based embedded or
> small-form-factor systems, such as the soekris net5501 and net6501,
> which
On Apr 1, 2013, at 7:31 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
> From: Eitan Adler
> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 00:48:08 -0400
> Subject: considering i386 as a tier 1 architecture
> To: freebsd-a...@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Hackers
>
>
> should drop
On Mar 31, 2013, at 11:48 PM, Kimmo Paasiala wrote:
> I think the only ones who are going to object are the users of embedded
> hardware. Some of them are still using CPUs that are only i586 equivalent.
>
> Personally I support the notion.
>
> -Kimmo
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Eita
From: Eitan Adler
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 00:48:08 -0400
Subject: considering i386 as a tier 1 architecture
To: freebsd-a...@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Hackers
should drop support for the i386 architecture for 10.0 to tier 2
and replace it with the ARM
Mehmet Erol Sanliturk writes:
> Since I am not a developer or user of such a system , I can not say
> whether 25000 packages are necessary for them or not. Reducing any
> amount of work load which its outcome is not directly used is a
> contribution to the FreeBSD project by diverting such effort
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 3:39 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> Mehmet Erol Sanliturk writes:
> > At present, there is NO any processor which is ONLY 32-bits.
>
> All the world is not a PC. There are still 32-bit x86-based embedded or
> small-form-factor systems, such as the soekris net5501 and ne
Mehmet Erol Sanliturk writes:
> At present, there is NO any processor which is ONLY 32-bits.
All the world is not a PC. There are still 32-bit x86-based embedded or
small-form-factor systems, such as the soekris net5501 and net6501,
which are widely used in the BSD community.
DES
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Hello, Eitan.
You wrote 1 апреля 2013 г., 8:48:08:
EA> I hope this email is enough to convince you that on this date we
EA> should drop support for the i386 architecture for 10.0 to tier 2
EA> and replace it with the ARM architecture as Tier 1.
A lot of people (myself included) uses FreeBSD on sm
Hi,
On Mon, 1 Apr 2013 00:48:08 -0400
Eitan Adler wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am writing this email to discuss the i386 architecture in FreeBSD.
if not for the date, I just wonder, what significance it real has.
Erich
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On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> On Monday, 1 April 2013 at 0:48:08 -0400, Eitan Adler wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am writing this email to discuss the i386 architecture in FreeBSD.
>>
>> Computers are getting faster, but also more memory intensive. I
>> can not find a lap
On Monday, 1 April 2013 at 0:48:08 -0400, Eitan Adler wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am writing this email to discuss the i386 architecture in FreeBSD.
>
> Computers are getting faster, but also more memory intensive. I
> can not find a laptop with less than 4 or 8 GB of RAM. Modern
> browsers, such as Fir
I think the only ones who are going to object are the users of embedded
hardware. Some of them are still using CPUs that are only i586 equivalent.
Personally I support the notion.
-Kimmo
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Eitan Adler wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am writing this email to discuss the i386 a
On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Eitan Adler wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am writing this email to discuss the i386 architecture in FreeBSD.
>
> Computers are getting faster, but also more memory intensive. I
> can not find a laptop with less than 4 or 8 GB of RAM. Modern
> browsers, such as Firefox, req
On Mon, Apr 01, 2013 at 12:48:08AM -0400, Eitan Adler wrote:
> Finally, others are dropping support for i386. Windows Server 2008
> is 64 bit only.
No, it isn't. Windows Server 2008 comes in both 32 bit and 64 bit versions.
Windows Server 2008 R2 is 64 bit only however. The same goes for Windows
Hi,
I am writing this email to discuss the i386 architecture in FreeBSD.
Computers are getting faster, but also more memory intensive. I
can not find a laptop with less than 4 or 8 GB of RAM. Modern
browsers, such as Firefox, require a 64bit architecture and 8GB of
RAM. A 32 bit platform is no
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