Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-12 Thread Joel Wood
> Aha, that makes sense... But then, I suppose, one needs some IDE<->CF > converting device... Would you point me to the resources 'bout them? We use a cf -> ide adapter from adtron. Its not the cheapest out there, but it fits in 3 1/2 drive bay, and offers access to the card from outside the co

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-07 Thread randall ehren
> On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 06:06:26AM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote: > > : Well, while I'd certainly agree with you regarding reliability (BTW, how > > many : _read_ cycles do contemporary flashdisks support?), there is at least > > one major : question: where to boot from? especially in the case of >

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-07 Thread Paul Armstrong
On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 06:06:26AM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote: > : Well, while I'd certainly agree with you regarding reliability (BTW, how > many : _read_ cycles do contemporary flashdisks support?), there is at least > one major : question: where to boot from? especially in the case of > standal

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-05 Thread Warren Block
On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote: > Aha, that makes sense... But then, I suppose, one needs some IDE<->CF > converting device... Would you point me to the resources 'bout them? http://www.mesanet.com http://siliconkit.dnsalias.com/cart The CF-to-IDE adapters are really cheap, $20 or l

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-05 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Wilko Bulte wrote: WB> On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 02:27:58PM +0300, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote: WB> > On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Wilko Bulte wrote: WB> > WB> > WB> > Well, while I'd certainly agree with you regarding reliability (BTW, how many WB> > WB> > _read_ cycles do contemporary flas

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-05 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dmitry Morozovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : Well, while I'd certainly agree with you regarding reliability (BTW, how many : _read_ cycles do contemporary flashdisks support?), there is at least one major : question: where to boot from? especially in t

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-05 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 02:27:58PM +0300, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote: > On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > WB> > Well, while I'd certainly agree with you regarding reliability (BTW, how many > WB> > _read_ cycles do contemporary flashdisks support?), there is at least one major > WB> > questi

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-05 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Wilko Bulte wrote: WB> > Well, while I'd certainly agree with you regarding reliability (BTW, how many WB> > _read_ cycles do contemporary flashdisks support?), there is at least one major WB> > question: where to boot from? especially in the case of standalone WB> > moving-par

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-05 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 01:13:33PM +0300, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote: > On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, M. Warner Losh wrote: > > MWL> : CD-ROM is not what I would call a reliable media. May I suggest > MWL> : booting from the network (PXE) or booting from a hard disk and > MWL> : mounting the partitions read-o

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-05 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 12:12:55AM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Vadim Vygonets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > : Quoth Joe on Thu, Jan 02, 2003: > : > I've been trying to get FreeBSD to run off a cdrom. Why, > : > well longs story, the shot version

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-05 Thread Terry Lambert
"M. Warner Losh" wrote: > : CD-ROM is not what I would call a reliable media. May I suggest > : booting from the network (PXE) or booting from a hard disk and > : mounting the partitions read-only? [ ... ] > > I'd suspect that cdrom drives will break more often than hard disks in > harsh environm

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-05 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, M. Warner Losh wrote: MWL> : CD-ROM is not what I would call a reliable media. May I suggest MWL> : booting from the network (PXE) or booting from a hard disk and MWL> : mounting the partitions read-only? MWL> MWL> It is usually the case that solid-state media, properly config

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-04 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vadim Vygonets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : Quoth Joe on Thu, Jan 02, 2003: : > I've been trying to get FreeBSD to run off a cdrom. Why, : > well longs story, the shot version is it needs to be able to be : > turned off and on like a lite switch. (

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-04 Thread Vadim Vygonets
Quoth Joe on Thu, Jan 02, 2003: > I've been trying to get FreeBSD to run off a cdrom. Why, > well longs story, the shot version is it needs to be able to be > turned off and on like a lite switch. (I understand the on part > will take longer, but the off is just hit the button). CD-ROM is no

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-04 Thread Joe
Thanks, but I have a cd up and running now with dns. The iso at freeSBIE seems to be more to run X or something. I just want to have the machine do 4 things caching nameserver(does it), ssh from localnet to box, and natd router(does this too), console access. At this point it does all but ssh.

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-04 Thread Gianmarco Giovannelli
At 03/01/2003, you wrote: Unfortunately freeSBIE seems to require buildworld. I'm not sure if they have a downloadable version. Try here: http://www.sm.freebsd.org/it/gufi/freesbie/ It is not the last version but it is an ISO :-) You can get the last iso from the slow, adsl link in the main p

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-03 Thread Joe
Unfortunately freeSBIE seems to require buildworld. I'm not sure if they have a downloadable version. I don't want X installed, I want dns, ssh and cron as the only daemons. ipfw and natd for the firewall / nat. I also don't want to have to do any configuration after it starts up or use the fl

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-03 Thread Marco Molteni
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been trying to get FreeBSD to run off a cdrom. [..] As somebody else already mentioned, try www.freesbie.org. It is based on another project that seems stalled, livecd. Works fine, the development team is italian but we do understand

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-02 Thread Joe
> matt > > - Original Message - > From: "Joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 4:03 PM > Subject: freebsd running on a cdrom > > > > Hello, > > I've been trying to get FreeB

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-02 Thread Matthew Saunders
e for it, but if you read through the script the author writes, it mentions the creation of a loader.rc file. I'm hoping this will work. Good luck, matt - Original Message - From: "Joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 4

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-02 Thread Joe
Thanks, but that was actually one of the articles I had already read. It suggests taking the boot.flp image from 4.4-RELEASE and just using your own boot0, loader.4th and kernel.gz. When I did that I ended up with the system booting, but it complained about a missing something(I cannot remembe

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-02 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Joe wrote: > I've been trying to get FreeBSD to run off a cdrom. Why, > well longs story, the shot version is it needs to be able to be > turned off and on like a lite switch. (I understand the on part > will take longer, but the off is just hit the button). When I > rel

Re: freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-02 Thread Craig Rodrigues
On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 02:03:50PM -0800, Joe wrote: > Without building the entire FreeBSD distro how do I make my > own boot.flp file and what goes on it? See if this article can help you: "Building a CD Bootable Firewall" http://www.bsdtoday.com/2002/March/Features646.html -- Craig Rodrig

freebsd running on a cdrom

2003-01-02 Thread Joe
Hello, I've been trying to get FreeBSD to run off a cdrom. Why, well longs story, the shot version is it needs to be able to be turned off and on like a lite switch. (I understand the on part will take longer, but the off is just hit the button). When I release this box it will have no cons