Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-06 Thread Joel Ray Holveck
I know the basic admin knowledge of UNIX,perl,cgi,c how to become a hacker? >>> You either are a hacker, or you are not. It is not something someone else >>> can teach you. >> This deserves a FAQ entry. What an awesome response. > But it's certainly NOT something that you just are, either

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-06 Thread Joel Ray Holveck
I know the basic admin knowledge of UNIX,perl,cgi,c how to become a hacker? >>> You either are a hacker, or you are not. It is not something someone else >>> can teach you. >> This deserves a FAQ entry. What an awesome response. > But it's certainly NOT something that you just are, eithe

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-04 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
> Not to let this become a passage of right or anything. ITYM "rite of passage". HTH, HAND! DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - d...@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-04 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
> Not to let this become a passage of right or anything. ITYM "rite of passage". HTH, HAND! DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-04 Thread Wes Peters
"G. Adam Stanislav" wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 03, 1999 at 06:11:08PM -0600, Wes Peters wrote: > > Trust me, greenie, those of us who a FAR from 16 wish we weren't. ;^) > > What, and miss the sixties??? Get back to your handbasket! :-) Our experiences of the sixties were probably different. I spe

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-04 Thread Wes Peters
"G. Adam Stanislav" wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 03, 1999 at 06:11:08PM -0600, Wes Peters wrote: > > Trust me, greenie, those of us who a FAR from 16 wish we weren't. ;^) > > What, and miss the sixties??? Get back to your handbasket! :-) Our experiences of the sixties were probably different. I spen

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-03 Thread G. Adam Stanislav
On Sat, Jul 03, 1999 at 06:11:08PM -0600, Wes Peters wrote: > Trust me, greenie, those of us who a FAR from 16 wish we weren't. ;^) What, and miss the sixties??? Get back to your handbasket! :-) Adam To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-03 Thread G. Adam Stanislav
On Sat, Jul 03, 1999 at 06:11:08PM -0600, Wes Peters wrote: > Trust me, greenie, those of us who a FAR from 16 wish we weren't. ;^) What, and miss the sixties??? Get back to your handbasket! :-) Adam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the b

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-03 Thread Tim Vanderhoek
On Sat, Jul 03, 1999 at 01:26:30PM -0700, Janie Dykes wrote: > > you make excellent points. For the most part, the novice/average > person, believes that hackers are malicious, destructive individuals. A > huge number of computer users are misled and misinformed about the true > definition of th

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-03 Thread Wes Peters
"Brian F. Feldman" wrote: > > On Sat, 3 Jul 1999, Janie Dykes wrote: > > > When scouring through the threads - this one in particular caught my > > attention. In my experience, which is still very new, I think all of > > you make excellent points. For the most part, the novice/average > > pers

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-03 Thread Wes Peters
"Brian F. Feldman" wrote: > > On Sat, 3 Jul 1999, Janie Dykes wrote: > > > When scouring through the threads - this one in particular caught my > > attention. In my experience, which is still very new, I think all of > > you make excellent points. For the most part, the novice/average > > perso

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-03 Thread Tim Vanderhoek
On Sat, Jul 03, 1999 at 01:26:30PM -0700, Janie Dykes wrote: > > you make excellent points. For the most part, the novice/average > person, believes that hackers are malicious, destructive individuals. A > huge number of computer users are misled and misinformed about the true > definition of the

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-03 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Sat, 3 Jul 1999, Janie Dykes wrote: > When scouring through the threads - this one in particular caught my > attention. In my experience, which is still very new, I think all of > you make excellent points. For the most part, the novice/average > person, believes that hackers are malicious,

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-03 Thread Janie Dykes
When scouring through the threads - this one in particular caught my attention. In my experience, which is still very new, I think all of you make excellent points. For the most part, the novice/average person, believes that hackers are malicious, destructive individuals. A huge number of compu

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-03 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Sat, 3 Jul 1999, Janie Dykes wrote: > When scouring through the threads - this one in particular caught my > attention. In my experience, which is still very new, I think all of > you make excellent points. For the most part, the novice/average > person, believes that hackers are malicious, d

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-03 Thread G. Adam Stanislav
On Sat, Jul 03, 1999 at 11:45:41AM -0600, Wes Peters wrote: > And, in some cases, disasters averted. I think all of us here have seen > a few graphic examples lately of what happens when the mentoring process > doesn't work. Sadly, mentoring can occasionaly hurt the mentor, too. I used to work

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-03 Thread Janie Dykes
When scouring through the threads - this one in particular caught my attention. In my experience, which is still very new, I think all of you make excellent points. For the most part, the novice/average person, believes that hackers are malicious, destructive individuals. A huge number of comput

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-03 Thread G. Adam Stanislav
On Sat, Jul 03, 1999 at 11:45:41AM -0600, Wes Peters wrote: > And, in some cases, disasters averted. I think all of us here have seen > a few graphic examples lately of what happens when the mentoring process > doesn't work. Sadly, mentoring can occasionaly hurt the mentor, too. I used to work f

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-03 Thread Wes Peters
"G. Adam Stanislav" wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 03, 1999 at 01:18:52AM -0600, Wes Peters wrote: > > > > You either are a hacker, or you are not. It is not something someone else > > > > can teach you. > > > > > > This deserves a FAQ entry. What an awesome response. > > > > But it's certainly NOT somet

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-03 Thread Wes Peters
"G. Adam Stanislav" wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 03, 1999 at 01:18:52AM -0600, Wes Peters wrote: > > > > You either are a hacker, or you are not. It is not something someone > > > > else > > > > can teach you. > > > > > > This deserves a FAQ entry. What an awesome response. > > > > But it's certainly N

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-03 Thread G. Adam Stanislav
On Sat, Jul 03, 1999 at 01:18:52AM -0600, Wes Peters wrote: > > > You either are a hacker, or you are not. It is not something someone else > > > can teach you. > > > > This deserves a FAQ entry. What an awesome response. > > But it's certainly NOT something that you just are, either. You have

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-03 Thread G. Adam Stanislav
On Sat, Jul 03, 1999 at 01:18:52AM -0600, Wes Peters wrote: > > > You either are a hacker, or you are not. It is not something someone else > > > can teach you. > > > > This deserves a FAQ entry. What an awesome response. > > But it's certainly NOT something that you just are, either. You have t

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-03 Thread Wes Peters
Wes Peters wrote: > > Dominic Mitchell wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jul 01, 1999 at 08:17:59AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I know the basic admin knowledge of UNIX,perl,cgi,c > > > how to become a hacker? > > > > Not everyone will agree with this, but you may want to look at: > > > > http://w

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-03 Thread Wes Peters
Wes Peters wrote: > > Dominic Mitchell wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jul 01, 1999 at 08:17:59AM -0700, haodong...@netease.com wrote: > > > I know the basic admin knowledge of UNIX,perl,cgi,c > > > how to become a hacker? > > > > Not everyone will agree with this, but you may want to look at: > > > > http

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-03 Thread Wes Peters
Bill Fumerola wrote: > > On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, G. Adam Stanislav wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 01, 1999 at 08:17:59AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I know the basic admin knowledge of UNIX,perl,cgi,c > > > how to become a hacker? > > > > You either are a hacker, or you are not. It is not someth

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-03 Thread Wes Peters
Bill Fumerola wrote: > > On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, G. Adam Stanislav wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 01, 1999 at 08:17:59AM -0700, haodong...@netease.com wrote: > > > I know the basic admin knowledge of UNIX,perl,cgi,c > > > how to become a hacker? > > > > You either are a hacker, or you are not. It is not so

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-02 Thread Bill Fumerola
On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, G. Adam Stanislav wrote: > On Thu, Jul 01, 1999 at 08:17:59AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I know the basic admin knowledge of UNIX,perl,cgi,c > > how to become a hacker? > > You either are a hacker, or you are not. It is not something someone else > can teach you. Th

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-02 Thread Bill Fumerola
On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, G. Adam Stanislav wrote: > On Thu, Jul 01, 1999 at 08:17:59AM -0700, haodong...@netease.com wrote: > > I know the basic admin knowledge of UNIX,perl,cgi,c > > how to become a hacker? > > You either are a hacker, or you are not. It is not something someone else > can teach you.

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-02 Thread G. Adam Stanislav
On Thu, Jul 01, 1999 at 08:17:59AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I know the basic admin knowledge of UNIX,perl,cgi,c > how to become a hacker? You either are a hacker, or you are not. It is not something someone else can teach you. Do you have the innate curiosity to take things apart just t

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-02 Thread G. Adam Stanislav
On Thu, Jul 01, 1999 at 08:17:59AM -0700, haodong...@netease.com wrote: > I know the basic admin knowledge of UNIX,perl,cgi,c > how to become a hacker? You either are a hacker, or you are not. It is not something someone else can teach you. Do you have the innate curiosity to take things apart ju

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-02 Thread Wes Peters
Dominic Mitchell wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 01, 1999 at 08:17:59AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I know the basic admin knowledge of UNIX,perl,cgi,c > > how to become a hacker? > > Not everyone will agree with this, but you may want to look at: > > http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/index.html

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-02 Thread Wes Peters
Dominic Mitchell wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 01, 1999 at 08:17:59AM -0700, haodong...@netease.com wrote: > > I know the basic admin knowledge of UNIX,perl,cgi,c > > how to become a hacker? > > Not everyone will agree with this, but you may want to look at: > > http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/index.ht

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-02 Thread Matt Curtin
> On Thu, 01 Jul 1999 08:17:59 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: haodongpan> I know the basic admin knowledge of UNIX,perl,cgi,c how to haodongpan> become a hacker? How to become a hacker in general: http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html Of course, not everyone has the personality,

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-02 Thread Matt Curtin
> On Thu, 01 Jul 1999 08:17:59 -0700, haodong...@netease.com said: haodongpan> I know the basic admin knowledge of UNIX,perl,cgi,c how to haodongpan> become a hacker? How to become a hacker in general: http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html Of course, not everyone has the personal

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-02 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Jul 01, 1999 at 08:17:59AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I know the basic admin knowledge of UNIX,perl,cgi,c > how to become a hacker? Not everyone will agree with this, but you may want to look at: http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/index.html -- Dom Mitchell -- Palmer & Harvey McLane

Re: how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-02 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Jul 01, 1999 at 08:17:59AM -0700, haodong...@netease.com wrote: > I know the basic admin knowledge of UNIX,perl,cgi,c > how to become a hacker? Not everyone will agree with this, but you may want to look at: http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/index.html -- Dom Mitchell -- Palmer & Harvey Mc

how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-02 Thread haodongpan
I know the basic admin knowledge of UNIX,perl,cgi,c how to become a hacker? thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

how to start to be a hacker?

1999-07-02 Thread haodongpan
I know the basic admin knowledge of UNIX,perl,cgi,c how to become a hacker? thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message