Re: idea: official hardware manufacturer blacklist - let's wake em up!

2000-02-28 Thread Wes Peters
"Karsten W. Rohrbach" wrote: > > hm > > i mean, do the hardware people want their stuff supported or not? that's > the main question > some seem to choose the NOT. And that is their choice. YOU can certainly create and maintain a list of hardware vendors who have been uncooperative in helping

Re: idea: official hardware manufacturer blacklist - let's wake em up!

2000-02-28 Thread Doug Barton
Jim Bryant wrote: > > Don't show the negative, only show the positive ... promote those vendors > > that are open to FreeBSD, don't put down those that don't ... > > Translation: > Be a good *BOY*, stay in your place. Well you're certainly acting like a boy, so if the shoe fits.

Re: idea: official hardware manufacturer blacklist - let's wake em up!

2000-02-28 Thread Jim Bryant
In reply: > On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, Karsten W. Rohrbach wrote: > > > hm > > > > i mean, do the hardware people want their stuff supported or not? that's > > the main question > > some seem to choose the NOT. > > right, and that is their perogative ... you can't create a "blacklist" and > publicize

Re: idea: official hardware manufacturer blacklist - let's wake em up!

2000-02-28 Thread Jim Bryant
In reply: > On Sun, 27 Feb 2000, Michael Bacarella wrote: > > > > > I love the idea myself, but I have no power over FreeBSD :( > > You may not like the shape of the world, but I don't think getting > publicly nasty about it is going to have any positive effect. It WILL > have a negative effec

Re: idea: official hardware manufacturer blacklist - let's wake em up!

2000-02-27 Thread Jim Bryant
In reply: > ok guys, here's just a little idea on how to get the hardware > manufacturer guys a little bit more responsive (in fact, i got somehow > "inspired" by the alsa sound project guys because they got something > similar)... > > let's put up a list of hardware manufacturers that do not ans

Re: idea: official hardware manufacturer blacklist - let's wake em

2000-02-27 Thread Kevin Day
> > i mean, do the hardware people want their stuff supported or not? that's > > the main question > > some seem to choose the NOT. > > Hmmm. You're saying any one who disagrees with you chooses not to have > their stuff supported; "if you don't agree with me, you must be stupid", > right? > >

Re: idea: official hardware manufacturer blacklist - let's wake em up!

2000-02-27 Thread Doug Barton
"Karsten W. Rohrbach" wrote: > > ok guys, here's just a little idea on how to get the hardware > manufacturer guys a little bit more responsive Please direct this to -advocacy, thanks. Doug -- "Welcome to the desert of the real." - Laurence Fishburne as Morpheus, "The Matrix"

Re: idea: official hardware manufacturer blacklist - let's wake em up!

2000-02-27 Thread Karsten W. Rohrbach
okay, thats a good point let's concentrate on the good things in life ;-) i mean, with all that yamaha crap i had going on the last weeks i am really demotivated... they should be a little more open minded... apparently, we got no contact i this company and so they wont have their hardware support

Re: idea: official hardware manufacturer blacklist - let's wake em up!

2000-02-27 Thread Karsten W. Rohrbach
hm i mean, do the hardware people want their stuff supported or not? that's the main question some seem to choose the NOT. /k Chuck Robey([EMAIL PROTECTED])@Sun, Feb 27, 2000 at 11:44:42PM -0500: > On Sun, 27 Feb 2000, Michael Bacarella wrote: > > > > > I love the idea myself, but I have no po

idea: official hardware manufacturer blacklist - let's wake em up!

2000-02-27 Thread Karsten W. Rohrbach
ok guys, here's just a little idea on how to get the hardware manufacturer guys a little bit more responsive (in fact, i got somehow "inspired" by the alsa sound project guys because they got something similar)... let's put up a list of hardware manufacturers that do not answer our mails, that do