Re: running 5.1-RELEASE with no procfs mounted (lockups?)

2003-07-22 Thread Adam Migus
Terry Lambert said: > The problem is that ktrace/kdump rendesvous at a file; > truss does > not, so it has some capabilities that ktrace does not. > In some > circumstances (e.g. a system crash, where kdump doesn't > get a > chance to get at the file, because it's "cleaned up" > and not > even ful

Re: running 5.1-RELEASE with no procfs mounted (lockups?)

2003-07-18 Thread Terry Lambert
John Baldwin wrote: > Since ktrace logs all syscall entries and exits, it should seem that > a kdump after the process had exited would show which syscall returned > EAGAIN quite easily. This works if the process exits after the EAGAIN; that would only work for the specific error that people are s

Re: running 5.1-RELEASE with no procfs mounted (lockups?)

2003-07-18 Thread John Baldwin
On 18-Jul-2003 Terry Lambert wrote: > Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: >> +> trussRelies on the event model of procfs; there have been some >> +> initial patches and discussion of migrating truss to ptrace() but >> +> I don't think we have anything very usable y

Re: running 5.1-RELEASE with no procfs mounted (lockups?)

2003-07-18 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jul 18), Pawel Jakub Dawidek said: > On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 01:45:34AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > +> > +> truss Relies on the event model of procfs; there have been > +> > +>some initial patches and discussion of migrating truss > +> > +>to ptrace() but I d

Re: running 5.1-RELEASE with no procfs mounted (lockups?)

2003-07-18 Thread Pawel Jakub Dawidek
On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 01:45:34AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: +> > +> trussRelies on the event model of procfs; there have been some +> > +> initial patches and discussion of migrating truss to ptrace() but +> > +> I don't think we have anything very usabl

Re: running 5.1-RELEASE with no procfs mounted (lockups?)

2003-07-18 Thread Terry Lambert
Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: > +> trussRelies on the event model of procfs; there have been some > +> initial patches and discussion of migrating truss to ptrace() but > +> I don't think we have anything very usable yet. I'd be happy to > +> be

Re: running 5.1-RELEASE with no procfs mounted (lockups?)

2003-07-18 Thread Pawel Jakub Dawidek
On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 01:01:11PM -0400, Robert Watson wrote: +> Most system functionality that relied on procfs has been rewritten to rely +> on other mechanisms. In general, I advise against running procfs--it's +> interesting, but conceptually it's very risky. If you look at the history +> of

Re: running 5.1-RELEASE with no procfs mounted (lockups?)

2003-07-17 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Josh Brooks wrote: > I have loaded two 5.1-RELEASE systems, both of them have PROCFS and > PSEUDOFS in the kernel, and yet neither of them have a procfs mounted. > > There is no procfs line in /etc/fstab by default, and no procfs is > mounted on the system in any way. > >

Re: running 5.1-RELEASE with no procfs mounted (lockups?)

2003-07-16 Thread Bosko Milekic
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 10:43:19PM -0700, Josh Brooks wrote: [...] > One of the systems, the one I am doing all the work on, is an SMP system, > and it keeps locking up on me - the lockups are always the same - things > are going fine, and suddenly a process fails to complete - maybe it is > "pwd"

Re: running 5.1-RELEASE with no procfs mounted (lockups?)

2003-07-15 Thread Josh Brooks
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Bruce M Simpson wrote: > On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 10:43:19PM -0700, Josh Brooks wrote: > > I have loaded two 5.1-RELEASE systems, both of them have PROCFS and > > PSEUDOFS in the kernel, and yet neither of them have a procfs mounted. > > I think one of the first things people

Re: running 5.1-RELEASE with no procfs mounted (lockups?)

2003-07-15 Thread Bruce M Simpson
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 10:43:19PM -0700, Josh Brooks wrote: > I have loaded two 5.1-RELEASE systems, both of them have PROCFS and > PSEUDOFS in the kernel, and yet neither of them have a procfs mounted. I think one of the first things people are going to ask is: which scheduler are you using, SCH

running 5.1-RELEASE with no procfs mounted (lockups?)

2003-07-15 Thread Josh Brooks
Hello, I have loaded two 5.1-RELEASE systems, both of them have PROCFS and PSEUDOFS in the kernel, and yet neither of them have a procfs mounted. There is no procfs line in /etc/fstab by default, and no procfs is mounted on the system in any way. Question 1: Is this intentional ? Is it no lo