Re: sendmail: how to get the named of FreeBSD4.7 standards compliant ?

2003-01-13 Thread Mark Murray
> Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > No, that's not the reason. I just don't like getting cc's. > > That's easily fixed: I recommend /usr/ports/mail/procmail. > > You can't expect people on a mailing list to tailor their MUA > configuration to suit your choices. It's up to you to set up your own > MUA

Re: sendmail: how to get the named of FreeBSD4.7 standards compliant ?

2003-01-13 Thread Rahul Siddharthan
Roman Neuhauser wrote: > No, that's not the reason. I just don't like getting cc's. That's easily fixed: I recommend /usr/ports/mail/procmail. You can't expect people on a mailing list to tailor their MUA configuration to suit your choices. It's up to you to set up your own MUA and filters to c

Re: sendmail: how to get the named of FreeBSD4.7 standards compliant?

2003-01-13 Thread Roman Neuhauser
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-01-13 11:49:15 -0600: > In the last episode (Jan 13), Roman Neuhauser said: > > # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-01-12 21:33:32 -0800: > > > On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 10:48:46PM +0100, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > > > # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-01-10 11:32:22 -0800: > > > > > To: R

Re: sendmail: how to get the named of FreeBSD4.7 standards compliant?

2003-01-13 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jan 13), Roman Neuhauser said: > # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-01-12 21:33:32 -0800: > > On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 10:48:46PM +0100, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > > # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-01-10 11:32:22 -0800: > > > > To: Roman Neuhauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTE

Re: sendmail: how to get the named of FreeBSD4.7 standards compliant?

2003-01-13 Thread Roman Neuhauser
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-01-12 21:57:25 -0800: > David O'Brien wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 10:48:46PM +0100, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > > # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-01-10 11:32:22 -0800: > > > > To: Roman Neuhauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > you sent

Re: sendmail: how to get the named of FreeBSD4.7 standards compliant?

2003-01-13 Thread Roman Neuhauser
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-01-12 21:33:32 -0800: > On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 10:48:46PM +0100, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-01-10 11:32:22 -0800: > > > To: Roman Neuhauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > you sent me a copy again, please, don't do

Re: sendmail: how to get the named of FreeBSD4.7 standards compliant?

2003-01-12 Thread Terry Lambert
David O'Brien wrote: > On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 10:48:46PM +0100, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-01-10 11:32:22 -0800: > > > To: Roman Neuhauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > you sent me a copy again, please, don't do it. > > 1. I don't want o

Re: sendmail: how to get the named of FreeBSD4.7 standards compliant?

2003-01-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 10:48:46PM +0100, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-01-10 11:32:22 -0800: > > To: Roman Neuhauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > you sent me a copy again, please, don't do it. > 1. I don't want one, I'll read your message on the

Re: sendmail: how to get the named of FreeBSD4.7 standards compliant?

2003-01-12 Thread Roman Neuhauser
thanks for not cc'ing me. # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-01-10 15:18:43 -0800: > Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > > So, do you manually put "yahoo.com" SOA records in your DNS? > > > > no. > > > > > How do you answer requests for "yahoo.com". > > > > it's simple: > > [ ... "I have a DNS cach

Re: sendmail: how to get the named of FreeBSD4.7 standards compliant?

2003-01-10 Thread Terry Lambert
Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > So, do you manually put "yahoo.com" SOA records in your DNS? > > no. > > > How do you answer requests for "yahoo.com". > > it's simple: [ ... "I have a DNS caching server that forwards all requests, except those to "bellavista.cz"; for those, it does

Re: sendmail: how to get the named of FreeBSD4.7 standards compliant?

2003-01-10 Thread Roman Neuhauser
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-01-10 11:32:22 -0800: > To: Roman Neuhauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] you sent me a copy again, please, don't do it. 1. I don't want one, I'll read your message on the list. 2. it's futile: your provider's MTA breaks RFC 2821: 2.3.5:

Re: sendmail: how to get the named of FreeBSD4.7 standards compliant?

2003-01-10 Thread Terry Lambert
Roman Neuhauser wrote: > You talked about nameservers and split horizon, > I talked about nameservers and split horizon. > Now you talk about Bind. Don't change the playground, please. You weren't really talking about split horizon, I think; a "horizon" in this case is any place you ca

Re: sendmail: how to get the named of FreeBSD4.7 standards compliant?

2003-01-10 Thread Roman Neuhauser
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-01-09 12:48:03 -0800: > To: Roman Neuhauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> please don't cc me. > Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > > ! This is called a "split horizon DNS", and you need to run two > > > ! DNS servers, one interior, and one exterior, both authoritative > > > ! for yo

Re: sendmail: how to get the named of FreeBSD4.7 standards compliant?

2003-01-09 Thread Peter Much
On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 12:07:19PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: ! What are the precise contents of your /etc/resolv.conf? search oper.dinoex.org nameserver 127.0.0.1 nameserver 192.168.98.2 rgds, PMc To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in

Re: sendmail: how to get the named of FreeBSD4.7 standards compliant?

2003-01-09 Thread Terry Lambert
Peter Much wrote: > ! 1)The default names option in the standard resolver will prevent > ! another query for the unqualified name, since unqualified names > ! are supposed to get the local domain name, unconditionally. > > I'm sorry, my named.log shows it the other way round - as d

Re: sendmail: how to get the named of FreeBSD4.7 standards compliant?

2003-01-09 Thread Terry Lambert
Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > ! This is called a "split horizon DNS", and you need to run two > > ! DNS servers, one interior, and one exterior, both authoritative > > ! for your domain, in order for this to work. The problem is that > > ! you are forwarding a request that should be local, and you ar

Re: sendmail: how to get the named of FreeBSD4.7 standards compliant?

2003-01-09 Thread Peter Much
! > Exactly. And when this is not found, then the resolver will ! > inplicitly issue another query for the unqualified name. ! > ! > And it is even worse with sendmail, because sendmail does quite ! > interesting things there - like switching off RES_DEFNAMES - ! > so this one will definitely not

Re: sendmail: how to get the named of FreeBSD4.7 standards compliant?

2003-01-09 Thread Roman Neuhauser
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-01-06 17:36:52 +0100: > ! > Background: This environment should be configured to use > ! > an internet connection for internet-relevant things, but to > ! > work flawlessly without such a connection as long as matters > ! > do concern only systems within the LAN. > ! > !

Re: sendmail: how to get the named of FreeBSD4.7 standards compliant?

2003-01-08 Thread Terry Lambert
Peter Much wrote: > ! So if I look up an unqualified "froboz", it's assumed to be in > ! the local domain because of the DNS suffix every machine is using, > ! and every machine is using it, either because you told it to, or > ! because that's what the DHCP server told it to use, when it handed > !

Re: sendmail: how to get the named of FreeBSD4.7 standards compliant?

2003-01-07 Thread Peter Much
On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 03:37:26PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: ! > And now I do not think that a "split horizon" configuration could ! > solve my problem at all. Because if it could tell me that my ! > unqualified hostname does not exist (without querying the outside), ! > then it would also tell

Re: sendmail: how to get the named of FreeBSD4.7 standards compliant?

2003-01-06 Thread Terry Lambert
Peter Much wrote: > ! I have been told that BIND 9 can solve this problem with two > ! different "views"; however, I do not believe it. I wrote a > ! BCP RFC for this, which ended up not getting published, as I > ! did not push it on the promise that the views would solve the > ! problem, and arri

Re: sendmail: how to get the named of FreeBSD4.7 standards compliant?

2003-01-06 Thread Peter Much
! > Background: This environment should be configured to use ! > an internet connection for internet-relevant things, but to ! > work flawlessly without such a connection as long as matters ! > do concern only systems within the LAN. ! ! This is called a "split horizon DNS", and you need to run tw

Re: sendmail: how to get the named of FreeBSD4.7 standards compliant?

2003-01-01 Thread Terry Lambert
Peter Much wrote: > 6. Then it asks the nameserver for the "" record of >"gate-e.oper.dinoex.org" (which does not exist - the >nameserver answers by sending the zonefile header (seems >ok?). Then sendmail asks again for the "" record of >"gate-e" (without domain). Now the lo

Re: sendmail: how to get the named of FreeBSD4.7 standards compliant?

2003-01-01 Thread Peter Much
! ! Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: ! > pmc> While it is true that the said sendmail-option solves the problem ! > pmc> (if sendmail is new enough to understand it), I could nowhere find ! > pmc> information on how to fix the bug in the nameserver - that is, ! > pmc> in the nameserver that is packaged

Re: sendmail: how to get the named of FreeBSD4.7 standards compliant?

2002-12-31 Thread Claus Assmann
On Wed, Jan 01, 2003, Peter Much wrote: > Attached is a log of what is happening actually, there > are two systems "disp" and "gate" involved. "gate" is the > mailhub, and "disp" wants to send a mail to it: > > Hostname: disp (127.0.0.1)gate (127.0.0.1) > OS: Free

Re: sendmail: how to get the named of FreeBSD4.7 standards compliant?

2002-12-31 Thread Terry Lambert
Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: > pmc> While it is true that the said sendmail-option solves the problem > pmc> (if sendmail is new enough to understand it), I could nowhere find > pmc> information on how to fix the bug in the nameserver - that is, > pmc> in the nameserver that is packaged with FreeBSD

Re: sendmail: how to get the named of FreeBSD4.7 standards compliant?

2002-12-31 Thread Gregory Neil Shapiro
pmc> While it is true that the said sendmail-option solves the problem pmc> (if sendmail is new enough to understand it), I could nowhere find pmc> information on how to fix the bug in the nameserver - that is, pmc> in the nameserver that is packaged with FreeBSD 4.4 or 4.7. FreeBSD's nameserver i

sendmail: how to get the named of FreeBSD4.7 standards compliant?

2002-12-31 Thread Peter Much
Under certain circumstances, when sending mail, the mail will appear in the local spool directory as Deferred: Operation timed out with otherhost.domain while observably there has no timeout happened: the sendmail has returned just immediately from the failing delivery action. It is s