Re: Problems with VLAN and natd.

2001-01-02 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai
-On [20010103 06:00], C. Stephen Gunn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >On Tue, 02 Jan 2001 10:02:20 MST, Wes Peters wrote: > >> Sure, but it would be nice to take over ARP too. > >FWIW. Jeoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was looking at the NetBSD >media-independant arp code. I'm not sure what he learned. I

Re: Problems with VLAN and natd.

2001-01-02 Thread C. Stephen Gunn
On Tue, 02 Jan 2001 10:23:23 MST, Wes Peters wrote: > > Well.. It's a change to ifconfig for normal interface configuraton. > > No, what I'm saying is that ifconfig would look exactly like it does now > for standard IP-over-EthII and for vlan id, and would be extended to handle > other configur

Re: Problems with VLAN and natd.

2001-01-02 Thread C. Stephen Gunn
On Tue, 02 Jan 2001 10:02:20 MST, Wes Peters wrote: > Sure, but it would be nice to take over ARP too. FWIW. Jeoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was looking at the NetBSD media-independant arp code. I'm not sure what he learned. - Steve -- C. Stephen Gunn URL: http://www.wat

Re: Dummynet problem

2001-01-02 Thread Slawek Zak
On Mon, 1 Jan 2001, Luigi Rizzo uttered the following: > it should not be equal provided the 'high weight' flow has sufficient > traffic going. Both FTP transfers I've used for testing were around 60Kbps each. One done by user dnld1, the other one by other user. > Can you do an 'ipfw zero' befor

Re: IPSTEALTH - transparent router

2001-01-02 Thread mouss
At 07:30 02/01/01 +0100, Miklos Niedermayer wrote: >Hello, > >( > Attila Nagy) > > > > I have many routers with wavelan card working with freeBSD and i am > > > trying without sucessfull use IPSTEALTH work i want whem one machine > > > make traceroute dont show my router and go a way > > sysctl -w

Re: Problems with VLAN and natd.

2001-01-02 Thread Wes Peters
"C. Stephen Gunn" wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 11:24:41PM -0700, Wes Peters wrote: > > > > I'm afraid to even contemplate the POLA and backward compatability > > > issues involved. > > > > Why would we need to violate POLA? The obvious default would be to > > extend ifconfig to configure

Re: Problems with VLAN and natd.

2001-01-02 Thread Wes Peters
Julian Elischer wrote: > > Wes Peters wrote: > > > > Doing link-layer encapsulation modules is really not very difficult. > > I've written pretty much the full complement, covering ethernet (10, > > 100, and 1000), FDDI/CDDI, token ring, ATM, and Frame Relay. (Chuck, > > I can identify that prot

Re: Problems with VLAN and natd.

2001-01-02 Thread Garrett Wollman
< said: > box a multihomed host, not a VLAN forwarder/router. The latter > would require a mechnism to bridge/forward/filter packets between > independant 802.1q encapsulated interfaces. We have that. They are just interfaces -- the kernel doesn't treat them at all differently. (I can't speak

Re: Problems with VLAN and natd.

2001-01-02 Thread Wes Peters
Thierry Herbelot wrote: > > Wes Peters wrote: > > > > Thierry Herbelot wrote: > > > > > > Wes Peters wrote: > > > > > > > [SNIP] > > > > > > > > Doing link-layer encapsulation modules is really not very difficult. > > > > I've written pretty much the full complement, covering ethernet (10, > > >

Re: Problems with VLAN and natd.

2001-01-02 Thread C. Stephen Gunn
On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 11:31:17PM -0700, Wes Peters wrote: > Sorry to reply to my own message, but another thought hit me. Now that > the swelling has gone down, I thought I should share it: > > This might even give us a start at a sticky problem that has been bugging > VLAN switch makers fro

Re: Problems with VLAN and natd.

2001-01-02 Thread C. Stephen Gunn
On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 11:24:41PM -0700, Wes Peters wrote: > > I'm afraid to even contemplate the POLA and backward compatability > > issues involved. > > Why would we need to violate POLA? The obvious default would be to > extend ifconfig to configure the new protocol types, and to assume >

Re: Problems with VLAN and natd.

2001-01-02 Thread C. Stephen Gunn
On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 06:50:46AM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > For example, you would no longer simply ``ifconfig xl'', but > > > associate a netgraph link-layer node on top of the xl interface, > > > and a netgraph interface node on top of the link-layer node, which > > > would function

'no memory for rx list'

2001-01-02 Thread Alfred Perlstein
I notice that if_fxp.c seems to fail silently when unable to allocate network buffers, perhaps the fact that the kernel can be doing about 200 or more messages per-second makes me guess that it's not helping things, especially when the box has a serial console. I'm taking the printf's out of my c

Re: Problems with VLAN and natd.

2001-01-02 Thread Harti Brandt
On Tue, 2 Jan 2001, Julian Elischer wrote: > Thierry Herbelot wrote: > > > > Wes Peters wrote: > > > > > What about a netgraph-enabled ATM NIC driver ? (this seems the missing > > piece to get bridged Ethernet over RFC1483 encapsulation on ATM) > > Someone was going to do this but I think I sto

Re: Problems with VLAN and natd.

2001-01-02 Thread Julian Elischer
Thierry Herbelot wrote: > > Wes Peters wrote: > > > > Thierry Herbelot wrote: > > > > > > Wes Peters wrote: > > > > > > > [SNIP] > > > > > > > > Doing link-layer encapsulation modules is really not very difficult. > > > > I've written pretty much the full complement, covering ethernet (10, > > >

Re: Problems with VLAN and natd.

2001-01-02 Thread Julian Elischer
Thierry Herbelot wrote: > > Wes Peters wrote: > > > [SNIP] > > > > Doing link-layer encapsulation modules is really not very difficult. > > I've written pretty much the full complement, covering ethernet (10, > > 100, and 1000), FDDI/CDDI, token ring, ATM, and Frame Relay. (Chuck, > > What abou

Re: Problems with VLAN and natd.

2001-01-02 Thread Andrea Franceschini
"C. Stephen Gunn" wrote: > > On Sun, 31 Dec 2000 15:33:36 EST, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > > Actually, no, it's not what you want (although the underlying code is > > broken enough to let it ``work'' anyway). What you want is to fix the > > parent network interface driver to indicate its readine

Re: Problems with VLAN and natd.

2001-01-02 Thread Julian Elischer
Wes Peters wrote: > > "C. Stephen Gunn" wrote: > > > > On Sun, 31 Dec 2000 19:54:19 PST, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > > > > The current VLAN (and Ethernet) implementaiton in FreeBSD needs work. > > > > FreeBSD should should handle multiple ethernet encapsulations on > > > > the same physical inte

RE: natd not translating ESP packets

2001-01-02 Thread Cambria, Mike
Updating my ipfw/natd system to 4.2-Release worked. MikeC -Original Message- From: Blaz Zupan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 11:18 AM To: Michael C. Cambria Cc: [EMAIL

Re: Problems with VLAN and natd.

2001-01-02 Thread Julian Elischer
Alex Pilosov wrote: > > On Tue, 2 Jan 2001, C. Stephen Gunn wrote: > > > For example, you would no longer simply ``ifconfig xl'', but > > associate a netgraph link-layer node on top of the xl interface, > > and a netgraph interface node on top of the link-layer node, which > > would function (mo

Re: Problems with VLAN and natd.

2001-01-02 Thread Julian Elischer
"C. Stephen Gunn" wrote: > > On Sun, 31 Dec 2000 19:54:19 PST, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > > The current VLAN (and Ethernet) implementaiton in FreeBSD needs work. > > > FreeBSD should should handle multiple ethernet encapsulations on > > > the same physical interface, and relay packets to/from