Re: 7-STABLE NFS: fatal: "select lock: Permission denied"

2011-04-06 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Apr 6, 2011, at 1:09 AM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: >> People tend to take advantage of the resources they have; if you >> have an EMC or NetApp filer handy, it's might well be reasonable >> to use it ... > > s/reasonable/tempting/ > > "When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem

Re: 7-STABLE NFS: fatal: "select lock: Permission denied"

2011-04-06 Thread perryh
Chuck Swiger wrote: > People tend to take advantage of the resources they have; if you > have an EMC or NetApp filer handy, it's might well be reasonable > to use it ... s/reasonable/tempting/ "When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem tends to resemble a nail." ___

Re: 7-STABLE NFS: fatal: "select lock: Permission denied"

2011-04-05 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Apr 5, 2011, at 1:01 AM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Chuck Swiger wrote: > >> It's fairly common to scale up a mail infrastructure from one box >> handling both SMTP and IMAP (or POP) to a SMTP-only box writing to >> NFS-mounted user mailboxes, and have one or more dedicated reader >> boxes

Re: 7-STABLE NFS: fatal: "select lock: Permission denied"

2011-04-05 Thread perryh
Chuck Swiger wrote: > It's fairly common to scale up a mail infrastructure from one box > handling both SMTP and IMAP (or POP) to a SMTP-only box writing to > NFS-mounted user mailboxes, and have one or more dedicated reader > boxes which only run IMAP/POP daemons which access that same NFS > fil

Re: 7-STABLE NFS: fatal: "select lock: Permission denied"

2011-04-04 Thread Gary Palmer
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 06:44:21PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: > If you can, anyway-- but maildir is becoming more commonly used with the > growing popularity of Cyrus and Dovecot compared with UWash IMAP (which did > mbox and mbx). Avoid UWash IMAP like the plague is my suggestion. It has locki

Re: 7-STABLE NFS: fatal: "select lock: Permission denied"

2011-04-04 Thread Chuck Swiger
Hi, Rick-- On Apr 4, 2011, at 5:24 PM, Rick Macklem wrote: >> On Apr 4, 2011, at 11:09 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> Be careful; multiple access from different processes even on a single >> host can still run into locking issues against NFS filesystems, or >> data corruption if locking isn't avai

Re: 7-STABLE NFS: fatal: "select lock: Permission denied"

2011-04-04 Thread Rick Macklem
> On Apr 4, 2011, at 11:09 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > 'k, based on someone else's recommendation, I add 'nolockd' to the > > mount entry,a nd postfix now appears to work ... since I can safely > > guarantee that only the one host will have access to these files, > > that doesn't pose a porblem

Re: 7-STABLE NFS: fatal: "select lock: Permission denied"

2011-04-04 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Thank you, this answers things perfectly ... On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Apr 4, 2011, at 12:37 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Okay, next question ... if lockd is running, should fcntl locks work? My read of the NFS_README.html above indicates to me that they should ... but if t

Re: 7-STABLE NFS: fatal: "select lock: Permission denied"

2011-04-04 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Apr 4, 2011, at 12:37 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > Okay, next question ... if lockd is running, should fcntl locks work? My > read of the NFS_README.html above indicates to me that they should ... but if > that is the case, then it comes back to why doesn't it? If rpc.lockd was bug-free and

Re: 7-STABLE NFS: fatal: "select lock: Permission denied"

2011-04-04 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Apr 4, 2011, at 12:14 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: OK-- Cyrus IMAP uses a variant of maildir, so you're relatively safe even if locking is not available. So, just to get this clear ... If I were to boot a diskless station using an NFS backend, then

Re: 7-STABLE NFS: fatal: "select lock: Permission denied"

2011-04-04 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Apr 4, 2011, at 11:09 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > 'k, based on someone else's recommendation, I add 'nolockd' to the mount > entry,a nd postfix now appears to work ... since I can safely guarantee that > only the one host will have access to these files, that doesn't pose a > porblem for me

Re: 7-STABLE NFS: fatal: "select lock: Permission denied"

2011-04-04 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Apr 4, 2011, at 12:14 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> OK-- Cyrus IMAP uses a variant of maildir, so you're relatively safe even if >> locking is not available. > > So, just to get this clear ... > > If I were to boot a diskless station using an NFS backend, then that instance > would be prone

Re: 7-STABLE NFS: fatal: "select lock: Permission denied"

2011-04-04 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Apr 4, 2011, at 11:58 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Be careful; multiple access from different processes even on a single host can still run into locking issues against NFS filesystems, or data corruption if locking isn't available. You're most at ris

Re: 7-STABLE NFS: fatal: "select lock: Permission denied"

2011-04-04 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Apr 4, 2011, at 11:58 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> Be careful; multiple access from different processes even on a single host >> can still run into locking issues against NFS filesystems, or data >> corruption if locking isn't available. You're most at risk with local >> delivery to an mbo

Re: 7-STABLE NFS: fatal: "select lock: Permission denied"

2011-04-04 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Apr 4, 2011, at 11:09 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: 'k, based on someone else's recommendation, I add 'nolockd' to the mount entry,a nd postfix now appears to work ... since I can safely guarantee that only the one host will have access to these files,

Re: 7-STABLE NFS: fatal: "select lock: Permission denied"

2011-04-04 Thread Marc G. Fournier
'k, based on someone else's recommendation, I add 'nolockd' to the mount entry,a nd postfix now appears to work ... since I can safely guarantee that only the one host will have access to these files, that doesn't pose a porblem for me, but still find it a weird issue all things considered :(

7-STABLE NFS: fatal: "select lock: Permission denied"

2011-04-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
I'm trying to simulate a diskless boot of FreeBSD, as am looking at moving to a more 'thin client' environment, using a Netapp as a filer to provide the file systems for FreeBSD front ends ... To simulate this, I have two servers, both running 7-STABLE, one acting as the nfs server (ie. simu