Hi. /31 on ethernet links

2009-10-30 Thread Sebastian Hyrwall
Hi. Is there any way to use /31's on ordinary ethernet links in 7.2? "ifconfig addr dest-addr" does not work either. It keeps setting the last ip as broadcast. Sincerley, Sebastian H ___ freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.or

Re: Hi. /31 on ethernet links

2009-10-30 Thread Sebastian Hyrwall
Chuck Swiger skrev: On Oct 30, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Sebastian Hyrwall wrote: Is there any way to use /31's on ordinary ethernet links in 7.2? "ifconfig addr dest-addr" does not work either. It keeps setting the last ip as broadcast. A /31 subnet is only defined for point-to-point network links,

Re: Hi. /31 on ethernet links

2009-10-30 Thread Sebastian Hyrwall
Freddie Cash skrev: Reading the man page for ifconfig will show the "ptp" option for ifconfig, that configures the interface as a point-to-point interface.. :) It will also show that it seems to be only for bridgeing, # ifconfig fxp0 ptp fxp0 ifconfig: unable to get bridge flags: Invalid

Re: Hi. /31 on ethernet links

2009-10-30 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Oct 30, 2009, at 5:22 PM, Sebastian Hyrwall wrote: A /31 subnet is only defined for point-to-point network links, per: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3021.txt Ordinary ethernet links have BROADCAST flag set instead of POINTOPOINT. Well how do I set the POINTOPOINT flag and remove th

Re: Hi. /31 on ethernet links

2009-10-30 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Oct 30, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote: ifconfig en0 inet 192.1.1.10 inet 192.1.1.2 Whoops-- copy-paste-typo; instead should be: ifconfig en0 inet 192.1.1.10 192.1.1.11 -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.fre

Re: Hi. /31 on ethernet links

2009-10-30 Thread Freddie Cash
Reading the man page for ifconfig will show the "ptp" option for ifconfig, that configures the interface as a point-to-point interface.. :) On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Sebastian Hyrwall wrote: > Chuck Swiger skrev: > >> On Oct 30, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Sebastian Hyrwall wrote: >> >>> Is ther

Re: Hi. /31 on ethernet links

2009-10-30 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Oct 30, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Sebastian Hyrwall wrote: Is there any way to use /31's on ordinary ethernet links in 7.2? "ifconfig addr dest-addr" does not work either. It keeps setting the last ip as broadcast. A /31 subnet is only defined for point-to-point network links, per: http://www.

Re: Hi. /31 on ethernet links

2009-10-30 Thread Sebastian Hyrwall
Chuck Swiger skrev: On Oct 30, 2009, at 5:22 PM, Sebastian Hyrwall wrote: A /31 subnet is only defined for point-to-point network links, per: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3021.txt Ordinary ethernet links have BROADCAST flag set instead of POINTOPOINT. Well how do I set the POINTOPOINT

Re: Hi. /31 on ethernet links

2009-10-30 Thread Randy Bush
/31 on point to point ether is exceedingly common in inter-router topologies. you may be amused to also read draft-kohno-ipv6-prefixlen-p2p-00.txt randy ___ freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net To un

Re: Hi. /31 on ethernet links

2009-10-31 Thread sthaug
> > A /31 subnet is only defined for point-to-point network links, per: > > > > http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3021.txt > > > > Ordinary ethernet links have BROADCAST flag set instead of POINTOPOINT. > > > > Regards, > Well how do I set the POINTOPOINT flag and remove the BROADCAST-flag on > e

Re: Hi. /31 on ethernet links

2009-10-31 Thread Randy Bush
> No, Cisco does not *support* it. They make it available, which is a > completely different story. > > We have asked Cisco repeatedly, through official channels, whether > they *support* /31 on Ethernet links. The answer is always that it > *may* work, use at your own peril. i have managed O(10^

Re: Hi. /31 on ethernet links

2009-10-31 Thread sthaug
> > We have asked Cisco repeatedly, through official channels, whether > > they *support* /31 on Ethernet links. The answer is always that it > > *may* work, use at your own peril. > > i have managed O(10^3) ciscos in isp backbone(s). /31s predominate for > ether links in that space. though i su

Re: Hi. /31 on ethernet links

2009-10-31 Thread Randy Bush
> However, I was simply reacting to the claim that it was *supported* by > Cisco. have you noticed a difference in the bug rate between things that are 'supported by cisco' and those that just happen to be there? :) but you're right. i liked. our p2ps are /30s, not /31s. and we're moving from

Re: Hi. /31 on ethernet links

2009-10-31 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis
Sebastian Hyrwall wrote: Chuck Swiger skrev: inside, or using a /32 and an explicit default route via your ethernet interface. Unfortunetly that doesn't work. It just sets 192.1.1.2 as broadcast. Well wrapping a /31 inside of a /30 kinda defeats the purpose :) You could still use a /32 a

Re: Hi. /31 on ethernet links

2009-10-31 Thread Sebastian Hyrwall
Nikos Vassiliadis skrev: Sebastian Hyrwall wrote: Chuck Swiger skrev: inside, or using a /32 and an explicit default route via your ethernet interface. Unfortunetly that doesn't work. It just sets 192.1.1.2 as broadcast. Well wrapping a /31 inside of a /30 kinda defeats the purpose :)

Re: Hi. /31 on ethernet links

2009-10-31 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009, Randy Bush wrote: Hi, However, I was simply reacting to the claim that it was *supported* by Cisco. have you noticed a difference in the bug rate between things that are 'supported by cisco' and those that just happen to be there? :) but you're right. i liked. our p2p

Re: Hi. /31 on ethernet links

2009-11-01 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis
Sebastian Hyrwall wrote: You could still use a /32 and then add a route for the other IP via the ethernet interface. This is effectively the same with a /31. Does not work, I see, I've checked this on 9.0 and found it working, not on 7.2. Nikos __