Re: Dual-core CPU vs. very large cache

2006-04-26 Thread Martin Nilsson
Mike Jakubik wrote: As much as i love AMDs cpus, the availability of good server motherboards and chipsets stinks, hopefully that will change when socket AM2 comes out. That is an old myth: http://www.supermicro.com/Aplus/ ___ freebsd-performance@fre

Re: Dual-core CPU vs. very large cache

2006-04-26 Thread Mike Jakubik
David O'Brien wrote: On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 12:43:27PM -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote: Steven Hartland wrote: IIRC AM2 is not a server solution just a client one the new server socket is significantly different. Its not a server/desktop thing, its a new socket that will allow AMD to

Re: Dual-core CPU vs. very large cache

2006-04-26 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 12:43:27PM -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote: > Steven Hartland wrote: > >IIRC AM2 is not a server solution just a client one the new server > >socket is significantly different. > > Its not a server/desktop thing, its a new socket that will allow AMD to > use DDR2 memory. It appl

Re: Dual-core CPU vs. very large cache

2006-04-26 Thread Steven Hartland
- Original Message - From: "Mike Jakubik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Steven Hartland wrote: IIRC AM2 is not a server solution just a client one the new server socket is significantly different. Its not a server/desktop thing, its a new socket that will allow AMD to use DDR2 memory. It app

Re: Dual-core CPU vs. very large cache

2006-04-26 Thread Mike Jakubik
Steven Hartland wrote: IIRC AM2 is not a server solution just a client one the new server socket is significantly different. Its not a server/desktop thing, its a new socket that will allow AMD to use DDR2 memory. It applies to both Athlons and Opterons. _

Re: Dual-core CPU vs. very large cache

2006-04-26 Thread Steven Hartland
- Original Message - From: "Mike Jakubik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> David Gilbert wrote: This isn't random. As I understand the issue, the Opteron HT bus handles synchronization much faster. So for a game --- this doesn't matter ... games don't (usually) need sync. Databases, however, liv

Re: Dual-core CPU vs. very large cache

2006-04-26 Thread Mike Jakubik
Bill Moran wrote: Lost me here. Are you saying 1U units from Sun? Or does Dell have a 1U called a "Sun"? I am pretty-much locked into Dell - decision made by others. Actually, I've been pretty happy with the Dell HW, but it's a shame they don't offer AMD servers. I'm quite sure he was re

Re: Dual-core CPU vs. very large cache

2006-04-26 Thread Mike Jakubik
David Gilbert wrote: This isn't random. As I understand the issue, the Opteron HT bus handles synchronization much faster. So for a game --- this doesn't matter ... games don't (usually) need sync. Databases, however, live on synchonizaton. If you're a Dell man (and already paying the Dell ta

Re: Dual-core CPU vs. very large cache

2006-04-26 Thread Bill Moran
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 10:35:06 -0400 David Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Mike" == Mike Jakubik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Mike> Steven Hartland wrote: > >> Forget Intel and go for AMD who beat them hands down for DB work: > >> http://www.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.aspx?i=2745 > >

Re: Dual-core CPU vs. very large cache

2006-04-26 Thread David Gilbert
> "Mike" == Mike Jakubik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mike> Steven Hartland wrote: >> Forget Intel and go for AMD who beat them hands down for DB work: >> http://www.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.aspx?i=2745 Mike> It will be interesting to see how Intels new CPUs (Conroe, Mike> Woodcrest, etc) will