Re: Dual-core CPU vs. very large cache

2006-04-27 Thread Steven Hartland
- Original Message - From: "David O'Brien" On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 12:11:05PM +0100, Steven Hartland wrote: Getting off topic now but I'd submit to you that a 1207 pin vs 940 pin is setting up for the access requirements of quad core something that AM2 is not going to be capable of hence

Re: Dual-core CPU vs. very large cache

2006-04-27 Thread Mike Jakubik
David O'Brien wrote: On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 11:30:14PM -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote: David O'Brien wrote: On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 12:43:27PM -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote: Steven Hartland wrote: IIRC AM2 is not a server solution just a client one the new server socket

Re: Dual-core CPU vs. very large cache

2006-04-27 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 12:11:05PM +0100, Steven Hartland wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Mike Jakubik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>No! Socket AM2 is the DDR2 939-pin Athlon64 desktop replacement. > >>Socket F(1207) is DDR2 the 940-pin Opteron server replacement. > >> > > > >Same c

Re: Dual-core CPU vs. very large cache

2006-04-27 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 11:30:14PM -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote: > David O'Brien wrote: > >On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 12:43:27PM -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote: > > > >>Steven Hartland wrote: > >> > >>>IIRC AM2 is not a server solution just a client one the new server > >>>socket is significantly differ

Re: Dual-core CPU vs. very large cache

2006-04-27 Thread Mike Jakubik
Steven Hartland wrote: - Original Message - From: "Mike Jakubik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just look around the list on the continuous problems people have with that and the nve card. I would never feel safe putting these in production. I would agree with nve but not had any problems with

Re: Dual-core CPU vs. very large cache

2006-04-27 Thread Steven Hartland
- Original Message - From: "Mike Jakubik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just look around the list on the continuous problems people have with that and the nve card. I would never feel safe putting these in production. I would agree with nve but not had any problems with bge here and we put them

Re: Dual-core CPU vs. very large cache

2006-04-27 Thread Mike Jakubik
Steven Hartland wrote: - Original Message - From: "Mike Jakubik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Martin Nilsson wrote: Mike Jakubik wrote: As much as i love AMDs cpus, the availability of good server motherboards and chipsets stinks, hopefully that will change when socket AM2 comes out. That

Re: Dual-core CPU vs. very large cache

2006-04-27 Thread Steven Hartland
- Original Message - From: "Mike Jakubik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Martin Nilsson wrote: Mike Jakubik wrote: As much as i love AMDs cpus, the availability of good server motherboards and chipsets stinks, hopefully that will change when socket AM2 comes out. That is an old myth: http://

Re: Dual-core CPU vs. very large cache

2006-04-27 Thread Mike Jakubik
Martin Nilsson wrote: Mike Jakubik wrote: As much as i love AMDs cpus, the availability of good server motherboards and chipsets stinks, hopefully that will change when socket AM2 comes out. That is an old myth: http://www.supermicro.com/Aplus/ Its not an old myth. Find me a single cpu opte

Re: Dual-core CPU vs. very large cache

2006-04-27 Thread Steven Hartland
- Original Message - From: "Mike Jakubik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> No! Socket AM2 is the DDR2 939-pin Athlon64 desktop replacement. Socket F(1207) is DDR2 the 940-pin Opteron server replacement. Same crap, different pins. The change simply allows AMD cpus to use DDR2 memory, nothing mo