Re: A specific example of a disk i/o problem (was: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu)

2009-09-29 Thread Attilio Rao
2009/9/30 Dieter : >> > My question is why is FreeBSD's disk i/o performance so bad? >> >> As I mentioned... this was discussed actively in slashdot. You will find >> there many good comments on this. > > All I saw in slashdot was a ffs vs ext comment. I don't believe the problems > I'm seeing ar

Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-29 Thread István
but if we measure the performance based on feelings we could advertise freebsd: "feels better" do not forget the marketing value :)) On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 6:12 AM, Kip Macy wrote: > > On Sep 29, 2009, at 4:21 PM, O. Hartmann wrote: > >> Well, since FreeBSD 8.0 started, I realized on several

Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-29 Thread Kip Macy
On Sep 29, 2009, at 4:21 PM, O. Hartmann wrote: Well, since FreeBSD 8.0 started, I realized on several boxes (doens't matter whether SMP or UP, 2 GB or 8 GB or 16 GB) massive performance issues when compiling, even on a 8-core box. This is not 'measured' in hard numbers, it is the 'feeling' s

Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-29 Thread István
makes no sense to stay with freebsd for zfs: http://opensolaris.org/os/downloads/ I think this will not change soon. ZFS is, at this moment, the only > thing that keeps me with FreeBSD. In every other case, serving, number > crunching (oh, we need a lot of I/O performance in those number > crun

A specific example of a disk i/o problem (was: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu)

2009-09-29 Thread Dieter
> > My question is why is FreeBSD's disk i/o performance so bad? > > As I mentioned... this was discussed actively in slashdot. You will find > there many good comments on this. All I saw in slashdot was a ffs vs ext comment. I don't believe the problems I'm seeing are filesystem related. > >

Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-29 Thread O. Hartmann
Attilio Rao wrote: > 2009/9/29 Randy Schultz : >> - "Andrew Kuriger" spaketh thusly: >> >> | >> | Since the article says that they left the debugging features on I >> | think >> | this has a bit to do with it. Obviously the testers didn't care to >> | read the >> | documentation, and didn't se

Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-29 Thread Attilio Rao
2009/9/30 O. Hartmann : > Attilio Rao wrote: >> 2009/9/29 Randy Schultz : >>> - "Andrew Kuriger" spaketh thusly: >>> >>> | >>> | Since the article says that they left the debugging features on I >>> | think >>> | this has a bit to do with it. Obviously the testers didn't care to >>> | read the

Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-29 Thread O. Hartmann
Andrew Kuriger wrote: > On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:26:34 PDT, Dieter > wrote: >> In message , >> Francisco Reyes writes: >>> Steven Hartland writes: >>> Just noticed the following posted on phoronix: > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=freebsd8_ubuntu910&num=1 Comments?

Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-29 Thread Attilio Rao
2009/9/29 István : > withdtrac...@#!#@! :) > > I think that the most interesting opionion these benchmarks tell is >> that we are slow on random, threaded I/O operations. I think we need >> to investigate more in this direction. First thing, it would be interesting if someone could be rep

Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-29 Thread István
withdtrac...@#!#@! :) I think that the most interesting opionion these benchmarks tell is > that we are slow on random, threaded I/O operations. I think we need > to investigate more in this direction. > > Attilio > > > -- > Peace can only be achieved by understanding - A. Einstein >

Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-29 Thread Attilio Rao
2009/9/29 Randy Schultz : > > - "Andrew Kuriger" spaketh thusly: > > | > | Since the article says that they left the debugging features on I > | think > | this has a bit to do with it. Obviously the testers didn't care to > | read the > | documentation, and didn't seem to care to use the same

Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-29 Thread Francisco Cabrita
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Randy Schultz wrote: > > - "Andrew Kuriger" spaketh thusly: > > | > | Since the article says that they left the debugging features on I > | think > | this has a bit to do with it. Obviously the testers didn't care to > | read the > | documentation, and didn't

Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-29 Thread Randy Schultz
- "Andrew Kuriger" spaketh thusly: | | Since the article says that they left the debugging features on I | think | this has a bit to do with it. Obviously the testers didn't care to | read the | documentation, and didn't seem to care to use the same compiler which | is | available in ports,

Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-29 Thread Andrew Kuriger
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:26:34 PDT, Dieter wrote: > In message , > Francisco Reyes writes: >> Steven Hartland writes: >> >> > Just noticed the following posted on phoronix: >> > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=freebsd8_ubuntu910&num=1 >> > Comments? >> >> This was discussed in

Re: Performance evaluation of PostgreSQL's historic releases

2009-09-29 Thread Francisco Reyes
György Vilmos writes: I've done a benchmark of recent versions of PostgreSQL's last five major releases to see how performance has changed during the past years from version to version. Thanks! Very interesting. Did you share it with the Postgresql list yet? I think they would find it very int

Re: Performance evaluation of PostgreSQL's historic releases

2009-09-29 Thread Attilio Rao
2009/9/29 György Vilmos : > Hi, > > I've done a benchmark of recent versions of PostgreSQL's last five major > releases to see how performance has changed during the past years from > version to version. > You can find the article here: > http://suckit.blog.hu/2009/09/26/postgresql_history > > The

Performance evaluation of PostgreSQL's historic releases

2009-09-29 Thread György Vilmos
Hi, I've done a benchmark of recent versions of PostgreSQL's last five major releases to see how performance has changed during the past years from version to version. You can find the article here: http://suckit.blog.hu/2009/09/26/postgresql_history The tests were conducted on FreeBSD 8/amd64 on

Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-29 Thread Francisco Cabrita
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 1:29 AM, István wrote: > http://marc.info/?l=freebsd-current&m=125413848303229&w=2 > > well I didn't knew that fresh one. Nice to know. Gona test for RC too. > On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:46 AM, Francisco Reyes >wrote: > > > Steven Hartland writes: > > > > Just noticed