Re: Phoronix comparision of HAMMER, UFS, ZFS, EXT3, EXT4, Btrfs

2011-01-07 Thread dieterbsd
Paul: EXT3 - ~3000 tps EXT4 - ~3800 tps XFS - ~ 1800 tps ZFS - 75000 tps The result for FFS w/softdeps seems to have been lost in the mail. :-( Mark: They certainly have earned the title Moronix either way. For me, getting a debugging flag wrong (assuming they did, there seems to be some q

Re: Phoronix comparision of HAMMER, UFS, ZFS, EXT3, EXT4, Btrfs

2011-01-07 Thread Christopher J. Ruwe
On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 10:19:05 -0600 "Mark Felder" wrote: > On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 09:19:30 -0600, Bruce Cran > wrote: > > > People seem to forget that debugging is turned off before the RC > > builds are done, which is what Phoronix tested (8.0 RC1). > > The GENERIC kernel has DEBUG=-g enabled; pe

Re: Phoronix comparision of HAMMER, UFS, ZFS, EXT3, EXT4, Btrfs

2011-01-07 Thread Bruce Cran
On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 10:19:05 -0600 "Mark Felder" wrote: > On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 09:19:30 -0600, Bruce Cran > wrote: > > > People seem to forget that debugging is turned off before the RC > > builds are done, which is what Phoronix tested (8.0 RC1). > > The GENERIC kernel has DEBUG=-g enabled; pe

Re: Phoronix comparision of HAMMER, UFS, ZFS, EXT3, EXT4, Btrfs

2011-01-07 Thread Mark Felder
On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 09:19:30 -0600, Bruce Cran wrote: People seem to forget that debugging is turned off before the RC builds are done, which is what Phoronix tested (8.0 RC1). The GENERIC kernel has DEBUG=-g enabled; perhaps this is what he is referring to? They certainly have earned the

Re: Phoronix comparision of HAMMER, UFS, ZFS, EXT3, EXT4, Btrfs

2011-01-07 Thread Stefan Lambrev
Hi, Having in mind that a SAS enterprise disk normally can handle 150-180IOPS, this benchmark is testing something else ;) Well there is a one thing which is clear from almost every Phoronix benchmark - Linux is heavily optimized ... for unpacking the linux kernel :) On Jan 7, 2011, at 4:12 PM,

Re: Phoronix comparision of HAMMER, UFS, ZFS, EXT3, EXT4, Btrfs

2011-01-07 Thread Paul Pathiakis
Kevin, Sadly, true. They are a heavy Ubuntu supporting shop. I always laugh at their benchmarks. However, I may try their benches on FreeBSD against different tuning parameters on *BSDs, just to see where things are and see if there's any improvement or degradation depending on various setti

Re: Phoronix comparision of HAMMER, UFS, ZFS, EXT3, EXT4, Btrfs

2011-01-07 Thread Bruce Cran
On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:39:00 +0100 "Christopher J. Ruwe" wrote: > Some time ago Phoronix compared a FreeBSD with kernel debugging turned > on to an Ubuntu to show that FreeBSD is slow and Linuxes way faster. > Since then I have privately dubbed that site Moronix. People seem to forget that debugg

Re: Phoronix comparision of HAMMER, UFS, ZFS, EXT3, EXT4, Btrfs

2011-01-07 Thread Christopher J. Ruwe
On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 06:12:38 -0800 (PST) Paul Pathiakis wrote: > This is almost laughable. I'd like to know what parameters they were > tuning. Some time ago Phoronix compared a FreeBSD with kernel debugging turned on to an Ubuntu to show that FreeBSD is slow and Linuxes way faster. Since then

Re: Phoronix comparision of HAMMER, UFS, ZFS, EXT3, EXT4, Btrfs

2011-01-07 Thread Kevin Wilcox
On 7 January 2011 09:12, Paul Pathiakis wrote: > This is almost laughable.  I'd like to know what parameters they were tuning. >  I > used FreeBSD with ZFS to make a point to people using Debian on EXT3, EXT4, > XFS > just two years ago.  They were interested in total throughput and TPS.  Well,

Re: Phoronix comparision of HAMMER, UFS, ZFS, EXT3, EXT4, Btrfs

2011-01-07 Thread Paul Pathiakis
This is almost laughable. I'd like to know what parameters they were tuning. I used FreeBSD with ZFS to make a point to people using Debian on EXT3, EXT4, XFS just two years ago. They were interested in total throughput and TPS. Well, I used the SAME MACHINE and rebuilt it from scratch with

Phoronix comparision of HAMMER, UFS, ZFS, EXT3, EXT4, Btrfs

2011-01-07 Thread Miroslav Lachman
Another filesystem benchmark from Phoronix. This time comparing HAMMER, UFS, ZFS, EXT3, EXT4 and Btrfs on DragonFly BSD, PC-BSD and Ubuntu. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=dragonfly_hammer I think it is almost useless test if systems were crippled to UP, because of bad SMP p