Re: Performance 4.x vs. 6.x

2006-10-16 Thread Danial Thom
--- Mark Linimon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 02:01:08PM -0400, > Michael Butler wrote: > > For everyone's benefit then, please feel free > to submit your patches > > along with your technical analysis. > > I think his best bet is a fork, instead. Then > he can tell all

Re: Performance 4.x vs. 6.x

2006-10-16 Thread Danial Thom
uot; means much to anyone other than yourself. DT --- Mike Horwath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 07:03:04AM -0700, > Danial Thom wrote: > > We come from Earth; we're just more informed. > The > > WD740ADFD's do NOT work on Freebsd 4.x. I&

Re: Performance 4.x vs. 6.x (was: e: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon)

2006-10-15 Thread Danial Thom
--- Mark Linimon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 07:57:32AM -0700, > Danial Thom wrote: > > Stating facts is not trolling. > > true, but ... > > > The fact that you may not want to hear it is > your own problem [...] > >

Re: Performance 4.x vs. 6.x (was: e: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon)

2006-10-15 Thread Danial Thom
e fact that your kernel design stinks, or its never going to get fixed. DT --- Kip Macy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please do not feed the trolls. > > -Kip > > On Thu, 12 Oct 2006, Danial Thom wrote: > > > > > > > --- Alexande

Re: Performance 4.x vs. 6.x

2006-10-15 Thread Danial Thom
--- Mike Horwath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 01:30:02PM -0700, > Danial Thom wrote: > > You should try the new 10K WD drives (the > ones that just came > > out). They kick butt. Unfortunately, I'd > have to use FreeBSD 6 to > >

Re: Performance 4.x vs. 6.x

2006-10-15 Thread Danial Thom
--- NOC Meganet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 14 October 2006 17:13, Danial Thom > wrote: > > The fact that a processor has 2 cores doesn't > > mean you have to use them, just like a MB > with 2 > > sockets doesn't need both to be used. If t

Re: Performance 4.x vs. 6.x

2006-10-14 Thread Danial Thom
--- Mike Horwath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 11:13:24AM -0300, NOC > Prowip wrote: > > Hi, I am hooking in here without any > intention to fire things up but > > isn 't this discussion certainly useless? Not > only 4.11 is gone but > > also i386 is practically marked to

Re: Performance 4.x vs. 6.x

2006-10-14 Thread Danial Thom
--- NOC Prowip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Linux 2.6 is not suitable for uniprocessor, > nor > > is FreeBSD 6. The difference is that Linux > scales > > with MP, and FreeBSD doesn't. So the case to > keep > > 4.x as an option is an easy one to make. > > > > > Hi, I am hooking in here wit

Re: Performance 4.x vs. 6.x

2006-10-14 Thread Danial Thom
The fact that a processor has 2 cores doesn't mean you have to use them, just like a MB with 2 sockets doesn't need both to be used. If the OS is faster with 1 processor than 2, then you only use one of the cores. The concept that you have to fire up both of them just because they're there is just

Re: Performance 4.x vs. 6.x

2006-10-14 Thread Danial Thom
ocessor, nor is FreeBSD 6. The difference is that Linux scales with MP, and FreeBSD doesn't. So the case to keep 4.x as an option is an easy one to make. DT --- Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 01:34:36PM -0700, > Danial Thom wrote: > > Yeah

Re: Performance 4.x vs. 6.x

2006-10-13 Thread Danial Thom
Yeah, bury your head in the sand as always. Its been proven over and over. Robert Watson has admitted many times that 6.x is not as fast as 4.x uniprocessor, but you guys still continue to claim otherwise. Clowns following clowns to the land of nowhere. Its virtually impossible to build a threa

Re: Performance 4.x vs. 6.x

2006-10-12 Thread Danial Thom
equest. > > I don't want to feed the trolls either, but > sometimes performance is > achieved because you take the time to read and > don't just install the > OS "as-is" and expect it to work well on all > hardware. When > configured properly, in my

Re: Performance 4.x vs. 6.x (was: e: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon)

2006-10-12 Thread Danial Thom
--- Dan Lukes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Danial Thom wrote: > > The right thing to do is to port the SATA > support > > and new NIC support back to 4.x and support > both. > > 4.x is far superior on a Uniprocessor system > and > > FreeBSD-5+ may

Re: Performance 4.x vs. 6.x (was: e: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon)

2006-10-12 Thread Danial Thom
--- Alexander Leidinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quoting Dan Lukes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (from Thu, 12 > Oct 2006 09:43:20 +0200): > > [moved from security@ to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > The main problem is - 6.x is still not > competitive replacement for > > 4.x. I'm NOT speaking about old

Re: MySQL 5.0.22 , FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE: Benchmark

2006-07-04 Thread Danial Thom
--- Hugo Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Today I decided to benchmark MySQL 5 > performance on FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE. > This server is a Dual Xeon 2.8GHz, 4GB of RAM > and 2x73GB SCSI disks that > do 320MB/s > > For all the tests, I restarted mysqld prior to > starting the test, > waited for

Re: HZ=100: not necessarily better?

2006-06-18 Thread Danial Thom
--- Robert Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sat, 17 Jun 2006, Danial Thom wrote: > > > At some point you're going to have to figure > out that there's a reason that > > every time anyone other than you tests > FreeBSD it completely pigs

Re: HZ=100: not necessarily better?

2006-06-17 Thread Danial Thom
--- You have some valid points, but they get lost in your overly abbrassive tone. Several of us have watched your behaviour on the DFly lists, and I dearly hope that it doesn't overflow to our lists. It would be a shame to loose your insight and input. Scott --- Well I only have a few

Re: HZ=100: not necessarily better?

2006-06-17 Thread Danial Thom
--- Robert Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Scott asked me if I could take a look at the > impact of changing HZ for some > simple TCP performance tests. I ran the first > couple, and got some results > that were surprising, so I thought I'd post > about them and ask people who are > i

Re: Initial 6.1 questions

2006-06-14 Thread Danial Thom
--- Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 12:57:38PM -0700, > Danial Thom wrote: > > > Since everyone agrees that the load measuring > > tools aren't all that accurate, what criteria > was > > used to determine that the cha

Re: Initial 6.1 questions

2006-06-13 Thread Danial Thom
--- Scott Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Danial Thom wrote: > > > > --- Robert Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > >>On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Danial Thom wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Maybe someone can explain

Re: Initial 6.1 questions

2006-06-13 Thread Danial Thom
--- Robert Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Danial Thom wrote: > > >> Two types of measurements are taken: sampled > ticks regarding whether the > >> system as a while is in {user, nice, system, > intr, idle}, and then sampling

Re: Initial 6.1 questions

2006-06-13 Thread Danial Thom
--- Robert Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Danial Thom wrote: > > > Maybe someone can explain this output. The > top line shows 99.6%idle. Is it > > just showing CPU 0s stats on the top line? > > Two types of measurements

Re: Initial 6.1 questions

2006-06-13 Thread Danial Thom
--- Robert Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Danial Thom wrote: > > >> I didn't answer it because I don't know what > output cpustat provides. What > >> output does cpustat provide on DragonflyBSD? > > > > Its a si

Re: Initial 6.1 questions

2006-06-13 Thread Danial Thom
--- Robert Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Danial Thom wrote: > > > I'm sorry if I missed it, but I don't believe > anyone answered this question: > > > >> Lastly, is there a utility similar to > cpustat in > &g

Re: Initial 6.1 questions

2006-06-13 Thread Danial Thom
I'm sorry if I missed it, but I don't believe anyone answered this question: >Lastly, is there a utility similar to cpustat in >DragonflyBSD which shows the per-cpu usage >stats? I need to gauge the efficiency of SMP for a particular application, and also have some way of measuring the effects

Re: Initial 6.1 questions

2006-06-12 Thread Danial Thom
--- Robert Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 12 Jun 2006, Danial Thom wrote: > > > first, why is the default for HZ now 1000? It > seems that 900 extra clock > > interrupts aren't a performance enhancement. > > This is a design change that is

Initial 6.1 questions

2006-06-12 Thread Danial Thom
I'm just setting up to evaluate 6.1 for a project, and before I tune I hoped to get some feedback on why some things are the way they are. first, why is the default for HZ now 1000? It seems that 900 extra clock interrupts aren't a performance enhancement. Is there a reason that ITR isn't a tuna