Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-30 Thread O. Hartmann
Martin MATO wrote: >István a écrit : > > have you seen the previous mail about 8.0 and debug stuff? > > you might have overlooked it. > > yes UFS is not the fastest, it is FAT16, stick to that :) > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 12:49 PM, S4mmael [1] wrote: > > > > Since the article says that

Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-30 Thread Martin MATO
István a écrit : have you seen the previous mail about 8.0 and debug stuff? you might have overlooked it. yes UFS is not the fastest, it is FAT16, stick to that :) On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 12:49 PM, S4mmael [1] wrote: Since the article says that they left the debugging features on I think

Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-30 Thread István
have you seen the previous mail about 8.0 and debug stuff? you might have overlooked it. yes UFS is not the fastest, it is FAT16, stick to that :) On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 12:49 PM, S4mmael wrote: > > Since the article says that they left the debugging features on I think > > this has a bit to

Fwd: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-30 Thread S4mmael
> Since the article says that they left the debugging features on I think > this has a bit to do with it. Obviously the testers didn't care to read the > documentation, and didn't seem to care to use the same compiler which is > available in ports, I believe it is safe to chuck this lame benchmark.

Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-29 Thread István
but if we measure the performance based on feelings we could advertise freebsd: "feels better" do not forget the marketing value :)) On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 6:12 AM, Kip Macy wrote: > > On Sep 29, 2009, at 4:21 PM, O. Hartmann wrote: > >> Well, since FreeBSD 8.0 started, I realized on several

Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-29 Thread Kip Macy
On Sep 29, 2009, at 4:21 PM, O. Hartmann wrote: Well, since FreeBSD 8.0 started, I realized on several boxes (doens't matter whether SMP or UP, 2 GB or 8 GB or 16 GB) massive performance issues when compiling, even on a 8-core box. This is not 'measured' in hard numbers, it is the 'feeling' s

Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-29 Thread István
makes no sense to stay with freebsd for zfs: http://opensolaris.org/os/downloads/ I think this will not change soon. ZFS is, at this moment, the only > thing that keeps me with FreeBSD. In every other case, serving, number > crunching (oh, we need a lot of I/O performance in those number > crun

Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-29 Thread O. Hartmann
Attilio Rao wrote: > 2009/9/29 Randy Schultz : >> - "Andrew Kuriger" spaketh thusly: >> >> | >> | Since the article says that they left the debugging features on I >> | think >> | this has a bit to do with it. Obviously the testers didn't care to >> | read the >> | documentation, and didn't se

Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-29 Thread Attilio Rao
2009/9/30 O. Hartmann : > Attilio Rao wrote: >> 2009/9/29 Randy Schultz : >>> - "Andrew Kuriger" spaketh thusly: >>> >>> | >>> | Since the article says that they left the debugging features on I >>> | think >>> | this has a bit to do with it. Obviously the testers didn't care to >>> | read the

Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-29 Thread O. Hartmann
Andrew Kuriger wrote: > On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:26:34 PDT, Dieter > wrote: >> In message , >> Francisco Reyes writes: >>> Steven Hartland writes: >>> Just noticed the following posted on phoronix: > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=freebsd8_ubuntu910&num=1 Comments?

Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-29 Thread Attilio Rao
2009/9/29 István : > withdtrac...@#!#@! :) > > I think that the most interesting opionion these benchmarks tell is >> that we are slow on random, threaded I/O operations. I think we need >> to investigate more in this direction. First thing, it would be interesting if someone could be rep

Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-29 Thread István
withdtrac...@#!#@! :) I think that the most interesting opionion these benchmarks tell is > that we are slow on random, threaded I/O operations. I think we need > to investigate more in this direction. > > Attilio > > > -- > Peace can only be achieved by understanding - A. Einstein >

Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-29 Thread Attilio Rao
2009/9/29 Randy Schultz : > > - "Andrew Kuriger" spaketh thusly: > > | > | Since the article says that they left the debugging features on I > | think > | this has a bit to do with it. Obviously the testers didn't care to > | read the > | documentation, and didn't seem to care to use the same

Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-29 Thread Francisco Cabrita
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Randy Schultz wrote: > > - "Andrew Kuriger" spaketh thusly: > > | > | Since the article says that they left the debugging features on I > | think > | this has a bit to do with it. Obviously the testers didn't care to > | read the > | documentation, and didn't

Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-29 Thread Randy Schultz
- "Andrew Kuriger" spaketh thusly: | | Since the article says that they left the debugging features on I | think | this has a bit to do with it. Obviously the testers didn't care to | read the | documentation, and didn't seem to care to use the same compiler which | is | available in ports,

Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-29 Thread Andrew Kuriger
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:26:34 PDT, Dieter wrote: > In message , > Francisco Reyes writes: >> Steven Hartland writes: >> >> > Just noticed the following posted on phoronix: >> > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=freebsd8_ubuntu910&num=1 >> > Comments? >> >> This was discussed in

Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-29 Thread Francisco Cabrita
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 1:29 AM, István wrote: > http://marc.info/?l=freebsd-current&m=125413848303229&w=2 > > well I didn't knew that fresh one. Nice to know. Gona test for RC too. > On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:46 AM, Francisco Reyes >wrote: > > > Steven Hartland writes: > > > > Just noticed

Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-28 Thread Dieter
In message , Francisco Reyes writes: > Steven Hartland writes: > > > Just noticed the following posted on phoronix: > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=freebsd8_ubuntu910&num=1 > > Comments? > > This was discussed in detail in slashdot.. starting with the fact that most > lik

Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-28 Thread István
http://marc.info/?l=freebsd-current&m=125413848303229&w=2 On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:46 AM, Francisco Reyes wrote: > Steven Hartland writes: > > Just noticed the following posted on phoronix: >> >> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=freebsd8_ubuntu910&num=1 >> Comments? >> > > Th

Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-28 Thread Francisco Reyes
Steven Hartland writes: Just noticed the following posted on phoronix: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=freebsd8_ubuntu910&num=1 Comments? This was discussed in detail in slashdot.. starting with the fact that most likely debug switches were not turned off for FreeBSD.

Re: FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-28 Thread Francisco Cabrita
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Steven Hartland wrote: > Just noticed the following posted on phoronix: > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=freebsd8_ubuntu910&num=1 > > Comments? > > I didn't saw anything related to turning off witness and invariants... so... Regards, Francisco

FreeBSD vs Ubuntu - Discuss...

2009-09-28 Thread Steven Hartland
Just noticed the following posted on phoronix: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=freebsd8_ubuntu910&num=1 Comments? Regards Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or e