Re: HyperThreading on Intel Xeon Haswell, a benefit?

2014-12-18 Thread grarpamp
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 11:44 PM, Jia-Shiun Li wrote: > You really need your own evaluation methods for your own real world workload. Of course. Yet many users here might like to compare common things: o make buildworld times o iozone if disks are not limiting factor o openssl speed as below o et

Re: HyperThreading on Intel Xeon Haswell, a benefit?

2014-12-18 Thread Jia-Shiun Li
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 1:40 PM, grarpamp wrote: > Thus to see what people were seeing perf wise. HTT good for *some* workload? Definitely yes. HTT good for yours? It depends. It is not a solution to boost everything. You really need your own evaluation methods for your own real world workload.

Re: HyperThreading on Intel Xeon Haswell, a benefit?

2014-12-14 Thread grarpamp
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Jia-Shiun Li wrote: > Yes, Haswell has an additional store addr but still only one store data unit. > > http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-4770k-haswell-review,3521.html > > But I guess they'd argue that they meant to saturate memory > channels with all av

Re: HyperThreading on Intel Xeon Haswell, a benefit?

2014-12-10 Thread Jia-Shiun Li
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:15 AM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > I've found that a memcpy heavy load (read: normal, non-zero copy > network traffic) brings SMT threads to their knees. A pair of threads > gets as much work done in normal UDP transmit/receive as a single > non-SMT thread. It looks like it's b

Re: HyperThreading on Intel Xeon Haswell, a benefit?

2014-12-09 Thread grarpamp
> Ohartmann: > From my experience, mostly compiling FreeBSD sources from scratch > ... > a dual core, 4-thread CPU > at 3.3 GHz takes ~ 60 minutes to build world, the same as a 4-core > castrated i3 with disabled SMT. Switching off SMT on the dual core > ... > Using SMT in some FPU heavy caclulatio

Re: HyperThreading on Intel Xeon Haswell, a benefit?

2014-12-08 Thread Adrian Chadd
ll only has one store data port per core. :( -adrian On 8 December 2014 at 06:39, O. Hartmann wrote: > On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 04:43:05 -0500 > grarpamp wrote: > >> HyperThreading on Intel Xeon Haswell, a benefit? >> >> What bits of FreeBSD are aware and can take proper advantag

Re: HyperThreading on Intel Xeon Haswell, a benefit?

2014-12-08 Thread O. Hartmann
On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 04:43:05 -0500 grarpamp wrote: > HyperThreading on Intel Xeon Haswell, a benefit? > > What bits of FreeBSD are aware and can take proper advantage of > Intel HTT, such as its thread/process schedulers (sched-BSD/ULE/...), > etc? > > What system/app

HyperThreading on Intel Xeon Haswell, a benefit?

2014-12-08 Thread grarpamp
HyperThreading on Intel Xeon Haswell, a benefit? What bits of FreeBSD are aware and can take proper advantage of Intel HTT, such as its thread/process schedulers (sched-BSD/ULE/...), etc? What system/app loads are, or are not, likely to benefit with today's HyperThreading CPU's? K