On 03/10/11 11:28, Hans Ottevanger wrote:
By making a few trivial changes i can make xorg-7.5.1 fully
independent on run-time of Python, Perl and Bison. The same can be
done for kde-lite-3.5.10_8 when I also disable the Perl support in
net-snmp, which is a dependency of kdeutils-3.5.10_8.
If any
Doug Barton wrote:
> ... what is really needed is for the OPTIONS framework to take
> environmental preferences into account when dealing with defaults
> ... if WITHOUT_X11 is defined in make.conf, then the defaults for
> OPTIONS that are related to requiring X11 stuff should be off ...
> that lo
On Mar 12, 2011, at 20:30 , Doug Barton wrote:
> The real problem here is that there is a very tiny subset of FreeBSD
> developers who insist on taking on a disproportionate amount of "behind the
> scenes" responsibilities, and are incredibly resistant to allowing anyone
> else into the inner c
On Sat 12 Mar 2011 at 18:28:42 PST Doug Barton wrote:
On 03/12/2011 18:13, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Charlie Kester wrote:
A few minutes ago, I was answering a post on the forums, in which
a user expressed surprise (and outrage) that the phpmyadmin port
was installing libX11 and similar th
On 3/13/11, Ade Lovett wrote:
>
> On Mar 12, 2011, at 17:22 , b. f. wrote:
>
>>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 09:14:50PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
There are way too many things happening "in private" around here and
the only way to solve that problem is to open the doors.
>>>
>>> Would you pl
On 03/12/2011 16:00, Ade Lovett wrote:
On Mar 12, 2011, at 17:22 , b. f. wrote:
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 09:14:50PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
There are way too many things happening "in private" around
here and the only way to solve that problem is to open the
doors.
Would you please offer e
On 03/12/2011 18:13, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Charlie Kester wrote:
A few minutes ago, I was answering a post on the forums, in which
a user expressed surprise (and outrage) that the phpmyadmin port
was installing libX11 and similar things on his server. By
installing it myself and then u
Charlie Kester wrote:
> A few minutes ago, I was answering a post on the forums, in which
> a user expressed surprise (and outrage) that the phpmyadmin port
> was installing libX11 and similar things on his server. By
> installing it myself and then using "pkg_tree -v" to examine the
> dependenc
On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:07, subbsd@ wrote:
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:38 PM, Doug Barton wrote:
On 03/12/2011 00:37, Subbsd wrote:
Hi.
Ive have server with huge of RAM (32 GB) and after mounting tmpfs on
/tmp try use it for more faster port building. Most of the ports work
when set WRKDIRPRE
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 06:00:40PM -0600, Ade Lovett wrote:
> Throwing out a PR with "exp-run probably desirable" is not particularly
> useful, and shows a certain naivety when it comes to such wide-ranging
> changes.
This seems a little harsh to me. OTOH, I think it's become much clearer
to me d
replying to myself.
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 05:51:44PM -0600, Mark Linimon wrote:
> Up until recently, I haven't been doing any -exps myself, other than to
> test the setup on pointyhat-west (on which I continue to find bugs in the
> newer, generalized, codebase).
Slightly untrue: the previous on
On 03/12/2011 17:14, Rob Farmer wrote:
Also, you suddenly getting involved probably didn't help, because it
just gave the appearance that you guys were trying to double-team
Rob,
I appreciate your thoughtful response to this topic. In fairness to
Mark, I am the one who expanded the scope of d
Actually, not "at random", it was "the latest one that came across
the threshhold." Sorry.
mcl
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On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 05:14:14PM -0800, Rob Farmer wrote:
> Also, you suddenly getting involved probably didn't help, because it
> just gave the appearance that you guys were trying to double-team
> Doug.
As I've stated elsewhere in this thread, I had an empty slot for an -exp
and just grabbed o
A greatly expanded version of my original message is now at:
http://wiki.freebsd.org/GmakeTODO
Note: the second run is currently paused while we are working on hardware.
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On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 02:12:34PM -0800, Charlie Kester wrote:
> On Sat 12 Mar 2011 at 13:53:07 PST Mark Linimon wrote:
> >On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:28:40AM +0100, Hans Ottevanger wrote:
> >> If anybody is interested I could consolidate my results and post a few
> >> patches.
> >
> >I would like
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Mark Linimon wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 09:14:50PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
>> There are way too many things happening "in private" around here and
>> the only way to solve that problem is to open the doors.
>
> Would you please offer examples of decisions
On Sat 12 Mar 2011 at 15:57:09 PST Charlie Kester wrote:
What's really needed are better tools to help maintainers see what
their ports are installing, and for them to exercise more disciple in
asking "Is this really necessary, or should I make it optional? Is it
really a run dependency, or is it
On Mar 12, 2011, at 17:22 , b. f. wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 09:14:50PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
>>> There are way too many things happening "in private" around here and
>>> the only way to solve that problem is to open the doors.
>>
>> Would you please offer examples of decisions that y
On Sat 12 Mar 2011 at 15:25:09 PST Doug Barton wrote:
On 03/12/2011 14:12, Charlie Kester wrote:
I'm not aware of any tool that will display a similar dependency tree
for a port *before* it is installed.
portmaster doesn't _quite_ do that, but it does walk you through all of
the config screen
I'm sorry that I did not have a chance to run the gmake -exp sooner.
Up until recently, I haven't been doing any -exps myself, other than to
test the setup on pointyhat-west (on which I continue to find bugs in the
newer, generalized, codebase). I put the gmake -exp on there primarily as
a way to
On 03/12/2011 14:12, Charlie Kester wrote:
I'm not aware of any tool that will display a similar dependency tree
for a port *before* it is installed.
portmaster doesn't _quite_ do that, but it does walk you through all of
the config screens (and thus, the related dependencies) prior to
buildi
>On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 09:14:50PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
>> There are way too many things happening "in private" around here and
>> the only way to solve that problem is to open the doors.
>
>Would you please offer examples of decisions that you feel that way about?
We need not look any farth
Mark Linimon said:
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 02:12:34PM -0800, Charlie Kester wrote:
> > I'm not aware of any tool that will display a similar dependency tree
> > for a port *before* it is installed.
>
> http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portdependencytree.py
>
> Note: it's running a live set of queri
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 02:35:23PM -0800, Charlie Kester wrote:
> Is the underlying sourcecode available somewhere?
The code is really gross :-(
Right now I don't have the cycles to 'productize' it, sorry. Feel
free to abuse that server in the meantime.
mcl
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On Sat 12 Mar 2011 at 14:21:35 PST Mark Linimon wrote:
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 02:12:34PM -0800, Charlie Kester wrote:
I'm not aware of any tool that will display a similar dependency tree
for a port *before* it is installed.
http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portdependencytree.py
Note: it's runnin
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 02:12:34PM -0800, Charlie Kester wrote:
> I'm not aware of any tool that will display a similar dependency tree
> for a port *before* it is installed.
http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portdependencytree.py
Note: it's running a live set of queries on the tree, so it's slow.
mcl
On Sat 12 Mar 2011 at 13:53:07 PST Mark Linimon wrote:
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:28:40AM +0100, Hans Ottevanger wrote:
If anybody is interested I could consolidate my results and post a few patches.
I would like to see them.
This is the kind of really-dull-but-necessary work that we need to
Howdy,
As many of you are no doubt already aware, much work has been undertaken
to make clang the default compiler for the src tree starting with
9.0-RELEASE. It is not 100% certain that this change will be made, but
it's looking more likely every day.
This raises an interesting question for
On 03/12/2011 13:51, Michal Varga wrote:
On Sat, 2011-03-12 at 22:46 +0100, Michal Varga wrote:
On Sat, 2011-03-12 at 13:34 -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
On 03/12/2011 12:45, Mark Linimon wrote:
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 09:14:50PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
There are way too many things happening "
On 03/12/2011 13:47, Mark Linimon wrote:
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 01:34:58PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
Would you please offer examples of decisions that you feel that way about?
Clearly it would be inappropriate for me to comment publicly on
things that were discussed in private, so no, I'm not
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:28:40AM +0100, Hans Ottevanger wrote:
> If anybody is interested I could consolidate my results and post a few
> patches.
I would like to see them.
This is the kind of really-dull-but-necessary work that we need to have
people work on to fight the creeping dependencies
On Sat, 2011-03-12 at 22:46 +0100, Michal Varga wrote:
> On Sat, 2011-03-12 at 13:34 -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
> > On 03/12/2011 12:45, Mark Linimon wrote:
> > > On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 09:14:50PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
> > >> There are way too many things happening "in private" around here and
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 01:34:58PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
> >Would you please offer examples of decisions that you feel that way about?
>
> Clearly it would be inappropriate for me to comment publicly on
> things that were discussed in private, so no, I'm not going to do
> that.
You just discu
On Sat, 2011-03-12 at 13:34 -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
> On 03/12/2011 12:45, Mark Linimon wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 09:14:50PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
> >> There are way too many things happening "in private" around here and
> >> the only way to solve that problem is to open the doors.
>
On 03/12/2011 12:45, Mark Linimon wrote:
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 09:14:50PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
There are way too many things happening "in private" around here and
the only way to solve that problem is to open the doors.
Would you please offer examples of decisions that you feel that wa
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:38 PM, Doug Barton wrote:
> On 03/12/2011 00:37, Subbsd wrote:
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> Ive have server with huge of RAM (32 GB) and after mounting tmpfs on
>> /tmp try use it for more faster port building. Most of the ports work
>> when set WRKDIRPREFIX="/tmp/ports" in /etc/make
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 09:14:50PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
> There are way too many things happening "in private" around here and
> the only way to solve that problem is to open the doors.
Would you please offer examples of decisions that you feel that way about?
mcl
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On 03/12/2011 00:37, Subbsd wrote:
Hi.
Ive have server with huge of RAM (32 GB) and after mounting tmpfs on
/tmp try use it for more faster port building. Most of the ports work
when set WRKDIRPREFIX="/tmp/ports" in /etc/make.conf is magnificently.
But part of ports not, for example: /usr/ports/
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 06:38:12PM +, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
> FWIW, I expect a number of these will be trivial fixes where the
> commands for a Makefile target are indented with spaces instead of
> tabs.
Yeah, it kind of looked that way on first glance.
mcl
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On Mar 11, 2011, at 23:14 , Doug Barton wrote:
> What harm will come from publicizing this problem and asking for help from
> the community?
Seems 'the community' has already awoken and started fixing stuff without the
second test -exp run even having finished. I rest my case.
-aDe
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Jeremy Messenger wrote:
> You can remove devel/ORBit and irc/xchat-gnome from your patch. I have
> fixed those ports to build with gmake 3.82.
I fixed net/xtraceroute and deskutils/contacts and sent a patch to
the maintainer of misc/gnustep-examples... since I had those fixes
already lying aroun
Mark Linimon wrote:
> I recent did a first-pass experimental ports run with gmake3.82. The
> results from that were pretty bad: 38 confirmed errors (5 more possible),
FWIW, I expect a number of these will be trivial fixes where the
commands for a Makefile target are indented with spaces instead
On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:25, timur@ wrote:
Hi!
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 6:46 AM, jhell wrote:
Could you please change the SAMBA_PORT= directive in samba-libsmbclient to
SAMBA_PORT?= samba34 so it can be overridden by make.conf or command line ?
No, I believe it's a bad idea.
It's - is either
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Mark Linimon wrote:
> I recent did a first-pass experimental ports run with gmake3.82. The
> results from that were pretty bad: 38 confirmed errors (5 more possible),
> with ~1100 ports as collateral damage, mostly from audio/portaudio and
> devel/p5-Module-Build.
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Jeremy Messenger
wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Ade Lovett wrote:
>> Work is now underway to bring GNU make 3.82 into the tree. Sadly, there are
>> a number of rather unfortunate backwards incompatibility issues between this
>> and 3.81 which makes
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Ade Lovett wrote:
> Work is now underway to bring GNU make 3.82 into the tree. Sadly, there are
> a number of rather unfortunate backwards incompatibility issues between this
> and 3.81 which makes a simple replacement unworkable.
>
> A new port, devel/gmake381
Just install frozen bubble with
cpan Games:: FrozenBubble
If you give me your details for freebsd I can try to get a portable
frozenbubble package made.
Kartik Thakore
On 2011-03-12, at 4:35 AM, Boris Samorodov wrote:
> Hi Kartik,
>
> On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 00:29:58 -0800 (PST) kthakore wrote:
I compiled the intel driver with the following patch:
--- src/i830_video.c.orig 2011-03-12 18:00:01.0 +0200
+++ src/i830_video.c2011-03-12 17:59:08.0 +0200
@@ -2164,7 +2164,7 @@
static void
i830_fill_colorkey (ScreenPtr pScreen, uint32_t key, RegionPtr clipboxes)
{
-
Hi!
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 6:46 AM, jhell wrote:
> Could you please change the SAMBA_PORT= directive in samba-libsmbclient to
> SAMBA_PORT?= samba34 so it can be overridden by make.conf or command line ?
No, I believe it's a bad idea.
> There is probably some bad magic that will happen on a ma
"O. Hartmann" wrote:
> nvidia offers a new FreeBSD /amd64 ready 64Bit driver, 260.19.44. We
> are about to equipt several boxes with newer nVidia Fermi based
> graphics cards (570 and 560Ti). On Linux boxes (Suse 10.XX, I do not
> know, a recent one) a GTX570 won't work with the older nvidia 256.5
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:12:38AM +0300, Boris Samorodov wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 06:43:51 +0200 Alex Kozlov wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 05:02:14PM +0300, Boris Samorodov wrote:
> >> On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 14:33:00 +0200 Alex Kozlov wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 02:34:44PM +0300, Bor
nvidia offers a new FreeBSD /amd64 ready 64Bit driver, 260.19.44. We are
about to equipt several boxes with newer nVidia Fermi based graphics
cards (570 and 560Ti). On Linux boxes (Suse 10.XX, I do not know, a
recent one) a GTX570 won't work with the older nvidia 256.53 driver, we
had to update
Hi Kartik,
On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 00:29:58 -0800 (PST) kthakore wrote:
> I picked this up on Google Alerts. I am the maintainer for SDL Perl
> and we have over the past year fixed a lot of bugs in SDL Perl. In
> addition to
It was my first idea when I faced with the problem. However new
SDL version
Hello!
I'm interested if anyone managed to build BURG loader
(http://code.google.com/p/burg/ https://launchpad.net/burg) under
FreeBSD?
Sincerely,
Gour
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Hi,
I picked this up on Google Alerts. I am the maintainer for SDL Perl
and we have over the past year fixed a lot of bugs in SDL Perl. In
addition to
that we have also migrated Frozen Bubble over to 2.2.2beta which
should fix this problem. Please consider packaging the following
packages.
http:
Hi.
Ive have server with huge of RAM (32 GB) and after mounting tmpfs on
/tmp try use it for more faster port building. Most of the ports work
when set WRKDIRPREFIX="/tmp/ports" in /etc/make.conf is magnificently.
But part of ports not, for example: /usr/ports/devel/ode
% make -V WRKDIRPREFIX -C/
On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 06:43:51 +0200 Alex Kozlov wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 05:02:14PM +0300, Boris Samorodov wrote:
> > On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 14:33:00 +0200 Alex Kozlov wrote:
> >> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 02:34:44PM +0300, Boris Samorodov wrote:
> > >> On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:44:12 +0200 Alex Koz
> More fallout from the devel/libtool problem [...] but then libtool
> attempts to link the shared libraries with the base system compiler
> and toolchain.
Thanks for the explanation! Things start to make sense now...
Best,
Klaus
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