Re: Python 2.7 removal outline

2021-03-25 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi! > Why does our work have so little value that portmgr@ is unwilling > to keep us all in the loop, or consider our opinions on such matters? The portmgr@ role is a huge task and all the reasons (limited time, dayjobs, etc) ares valid for those folks from portmgr as for the rest of the ports

Re: Python 2.7 removal outline

2021-03-25 Thread Chris
There have been a great many comments on this matter on the mailing list. All the replies are valuable. But (this) original post has been trimmed in all those replies. So in an effort to maintain context to the original statement. I'm making my reply here. Which reflects the attitude of most all

FreeBSD ports you maintain which are out of date

2021-03-25 Thread portscout
Dear port maintainer, The portscout new distfile checker has detected that one or more of your ports appears to be out of date. Please take the opportunity to check each of the ports listed below, and if possible and appropriate, submit/commit an update. If any ports have already been updated,

Re: Python 2.7 removal outline

2021-03-25 Thread Dave Horsfall
On Thu, 25 Mar 2021, George Mitchell wrote: [...] it is really not for everybody to use overlays in current state (overlays are poor documented at least). [...] Until this thread I had never heard of them. -- George I can't remember the last time I used overlays (certainly

Proposed ports git transition schedule

2021-03-25 Thread Ed Maste
The doc and src tree git migrations are complete, and the git working group is preparing the ports tree transition in advance of the 2021Q2 quarterly branch. The proposed schedule is available at https://wiki.freebsd.org/git and the status will be updated throughout the process, and important

Re: Python 2.7 removal outline

2021-03-25 Thread Dewayne Geraghty
On 26/03/2021 9:25 am, George Mitchell wrote: > On 3/25/21 6:06 PM, Miroslav Lachman wrote: >> [...]  it is really not for >> everybody to use overlays in current state (overlays are poor >> documented at least). >> [...] > > Until this thread I had never heard of them.  -- George

Re: Python 2.7 removal outline

2021-03-25 Thread George Mitchell
On 3/25/21 6:06 PM, Miroslav Lachman wrote: [...] it is really not for everybody to use overlays in current state (overlays are poor documented at least). [...] Until this thread I had never heard of them. -- George OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: Python 2.7 removal outline

2021-03-25 Thread Miroslav Lachman
On 25/03/2021 16:03, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: I will only here answer about the quality of the communication of portmgr, yes there is room of improvement in general in the current portmgr team as of how we do communicate about plans and policy and we are working on it. "There is room of

Re: Python 2.7 removal outline

2021-03-25 Thread Roger Marquis
I find this announcement very much disappointing, because the situation for ports that need Python 2.7 or similar to build doesn't seem to have changed at all. In short, we are just told (again) that they should disappear. Many end-users who maintain python2 code, both application and install

Re: Python 2.7 removal outline

2021-03-25 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 24.03.21 um 23:11 schrieb Matthias Andree: > Am 24.03.21 um 22:50 schrieb Dan Mahoney (Ports): > >> There are packages for mailman3 but they’re incomplete and don’t > result in a working install the way the 2.x build does.  You also need > mysql, django, etc etc. > > Dan, please check if we

Re: Python 2.7 removal outline

2021-03-25 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 25.03.21 um 16:03 schrieb Baptiste Daroussin: > > I really think we should as a project move forward to that direction, it does > not even need to be driven by protmgr or even drive by any @freebsd.org > > I would argue here that it is even more interesting to go the gentoo way try > to >

Re: freebsd-ports Digest, Vol 930, Issue 4

2021-03-25 Thread Guido Falsi via freebsd-ports
On 25/03/21 15:43, Adriaan de Groot wrote: On Thursday, 25 March 2021 13:00:02 CET freebsd-ports-requ...@freebsd.org wrote: The idea is to try to have www/qt5-webengine fixed before the expiration time, saving with it a bunch of innocent ports depending on it, correct? In the sense of "have

Re: Python 2.7 removal outline

2021-03-25 Thread Jose Quinteiro
I meant to send this reply to the list. I beg for @bapt's forgiveness for the inbox echo. On 3/25/21 8:03 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 12:02:29PM +0100, Olivier Certner wrote: >> >> 2. Leverage overlays to provide additional repos, a bit like AUR for Arch. >> Here I'm

Re: Python 2.7 removal outline

2021-03-25 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 12:02:29PM +0100, Olivier Certner wrote: > Hi, > > Maintainer of Tauthon here, and of Pale Moon (for the few hours it lived in > the tree in February; but I'm still pushing updates to PR 251117). > > I find this announcement very much disappointing, because the situation

Re: freebsd-ports Digest, Vol 930, Issue 4

2021-03-25 Thread Adriaan de Groot
On Thursday, 25 March 2021 13:00:02 CET freebsd-ports-requ...@freebsd.org wrote: > The idea is to try to have www/qt5-webengine fixed before the expiration > time, saving with it a bunch of innocent ports depending on it, correct? In the sense of "have one guy take a stab at it over the weekend

Re: Python 2.7 removal outline

2021-03-25 Thread Olivier Certner
Hi, Maintainer of Tauthon here, and of Pale Moon (for the few hours it lived in the tree in February; but I'm still pushing updates to PR 251117). I find this announcement very much disappointing, because the situation for ports that need Python 2.7 or similar to build doesn't seem to have

Re: Python 2.7 removal outline

2021-03-25 Thread Miroslav Lachman
On 25/03/2021 07:26, Dewayne Geraghty wrote: On 25/03/2021 4:01 am, Miroslav Lachman wrote: I really appreciate the work of ports team, committers and maintainers but I dislike double standards. All ports requiring Python 2.7 were marked deprecated the last year almost all of them removed

Re: Python 2.7 removal outline

2021-03-25 Thread Guillermo Hernandez (Oldno7) via freebsd-ports
On 24/3/21 22:50, Dan Mahoney (Ports) wrote: > There are packages for mailman3 but they’re incomplete and don’t result in a working install the way the 2.x build does.  You also need mysql, django, etc etc. > > Needing django is almost as bad as saying “sure, the web UI depends on WordPress”. 

Re: Python 2.7 removal outline

2021-03-25 Thread Dewayne Geraghty
On 25/03/2021 4:01 am, Miroslav Lachman wrote: > I really appreciate the work of ports team, committers and maintainers > but I dislike double standards. All ports requiring Python 2.7 were > marked deprecated the last year almost all of them removed according to > expiration date 2020-12-31 but