Re: Dependencies: base vs. ports (Was: Re: ports/187468)

2014-03-13 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 07:01:20AM -0500 I heard the voice of Bryan Drewery, and lo! it spake thus: Take openssl for example, [...] From the user perspective, this in particular has been an occasional but steady low-level grumble of mine for years, and I've definitely come to wish it were

Re: Dependencies: base vs. ports (Was: Re: ports/187468)

2014-03-13 Thread Scot Hetzel
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 3:42 AM, Matthew D. Fuller fulle...@over-yonder.net wrote: On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 07:01:20AM -0500 I heard the voice of Bryan Drewery, and lo! it spake thus: Take openssl for example, [...] From the user perspective, this in particular has been an occasional but

Re: Dependencies: base vs. ports (Was: Re: ports/187468)

2014-03-13 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 08:22:08AM -0500 I heard the voice of Scot Hetzel, and lo! it spake thus: This was caused by the port maintainer deciding to force the port to always us the base version of OpenSSL on FreeBSD = 10. Instead of letting the sysadmin decide on which to use (port / base).

Re: Dependencies: base vs. ports (Was: Re: ports/187468)

2014-03-12 Thread Bryan Drewery
On Mar 11, 2014, at 23:48, Alexey Dokuchaev da...@freebsd.org wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 07:50:37PM -0500, Bryan Drewery wrote: This goes against our plans to have all ports depend only on ports. I admit this has not been communicated well. libexecinfo should probably be moved to

Re: Dependencies: base vs. ports (Was: Re: ports/187468)

2014-03-12 Thread Alexey Dokuchaev
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 07:01:20AM -0500, Bryan Drewery wrote: On Mar 11, 2014, at 23:48, Alexey Dokuchaev da...@freebsd.org wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 07:50:37PM -0500, Bryan Drewery wrote: This goes against our plans to have all ports depend only on ports. I admit this has not been

Re: Dependencies: base vs. ports (Was: Re: ports/187468)

2014-03-12 Thread Bryan Drewery
On 2014-03-12 09:36, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 07:01:20AM -0500, Bryan Drewery wrote: On Mar 11, 2014, at 23:48, Alexey Dokuchaev da...@freebsd.org wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 07:50:37PM -0500, Bryan Drewery wrote: This goes against our plans to have all ports depend

Re: Dependencies: base vs. ports (Was: Re: ports/187468)

2014-03-12 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 8:16 AM, Bryan Drewery bdrew...@freebsd.org wrote: On 2014-03-12 09:36, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 07:01:20AM -0500, Bryan Drewery wrote: On Mar 11, 2014, at 23:48, Alexey Dokuchaev da...@freebsd.org wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 07:50:37PM

Dependencies: base vs. ports (Was: Re: ports/187468)

2014-03-11 Thread Alexey Dokuchaev
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 07:50:37PM -0500, Bryan Drewery wrote: This goes against our plans to have all ports depend only on ports. I admit this has not been communicated well. libexecinfo should probably be moved to /usr/lib/private on head to prevent ports from using it. [ Taking this to