Hi,
I attend a lot of different Meetup groups in the San Francisco Bay Area /
Silicon Valley.
What I am seeing is the following usage pattern for new developers,
especially for web apps and cloud applications.
(1) On their desktop/laptop, they will generally be using
a Mac running OS X.
Hi!
3) The binary packages need to work out of the box
4) .. which means, when you do things like pkg install apache, it
can't just be installed and not be enabled, because that's a bit of a
problem;
5) .. and then we need examples of actually deploying useful
scenarios, like "so here's what you t
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> Hi!
>
> 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box
> 4) .. which means, when you do things like pkg install apache, it
> can't just be installed and not be enabled, because that's a bit of a
> problem;
>
I disagree on this. For networ
On 17 July 2014 12:57, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box
>> 4) .. which means, when you do things like pkg install apache, it
>> can't just be installed and not be enabled, because
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> Hi!
>
> 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box
> 4) .. which means, when you do things like pkg install apache, it
> can't just be installed and not be enabled, because that's a bit of a
> problem;
No. Please NEVER do that! The u
On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box
>> 4) .. which means, when you do things like pkg install apache, it
>> can't just be installed and not be enabled, because that's a
On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box
>>> 4) .. which means, when you do things like pkg install apache, it
>>> can't just be
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box
>>> 4) .. which means, when you do things like pkg install apache, it
>>
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Navdeep Parhar wrote:
> On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> > On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd
> wrote:
> >>> Hi!
> >>>
> >>> 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box
> >>> 4) .. whi
On 17 July 2014 13:15, Navdeep Parhar wrote:
> On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>> On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
Hi!
3) The binary packages need to work out of the box
4) .. which means, when you d
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> On 17 July 2014 13:15, Navdeep Parhar wrote:
> > On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> >> On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd
> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> 3) The binary
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:21:17PM +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Navdeep Parhar wrote:
>
> > On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> > > On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares wrote:
> > >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd
> > wrote:
> > >>> Hi!
On Thu, 2014-07-17 at 13:21 -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> On 17 July 2014 13:15, Navdeep Parhar wrote:
> > On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> >> On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> Hi!
>
> 3) The binary pa
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 01:21:32PM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> On 17 July 2014 13:15, Navdeep Parhar wrote:
> > On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> >> On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> Hi!
>
> 3) The bi
On 17 July 2014 13:54, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:21:17PM +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Navdeep Parhar wrote:
>>
>> > On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>> > > On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares wrote:
>> > >> On Thu, Jul 1
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 01:57:52PM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> On 17 July 2014 13:54, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:21:17PM +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Navdeep Parhar wrote:
> >>
> >> > On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> >
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 09:57:44PM +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box
> > 4) .. which means, when you do things like pkg install apache, it
> > can't just be installed and not be
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 01:00:03PM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> On 17 July 2014 12:57, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box
> >> 4) .. which means, when you do things
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 02:10:25PM +0200, Lars Engels wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 01:00:03PM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> > On 17 July 2014 12:57, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi!
> > >>
> > >> 3) The binary
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 7:25 PM, Craig Rodrigues
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I attend a lot of different Meetup groups in the San Francisco Bay Area /
> Silicon Valley.
>
> What I am seeing is the following usage pattern for new developers,
> especially for web apps and cloud applications.
>
> (1) On thei
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Baptiste Daroussin
wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:21:17PM +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Navdeep Parhar
> wrote:
> >
> > > On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> > > > On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares wrote:
> >
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:21:17PM +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Navdeep Parhar wrote:
>
> > On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> > > On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares wrote:
> > >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd
> > wrote:
> > >>> Hi!
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 11:07:39PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 01:57:52PM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> > On 17 July 2014 13:54, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:21:17PM +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> > >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:15 PM, N
Hi!
On 18 July 2014 07:28, Lars Engels wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:21:17PM +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Navdeep Parhar wrote:
>>
>> > On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>> > > On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares wrote:
>> > >> On Thu, Jul 17
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 12:10:34PM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> Hi!
>
>
> On 18 July 2014 07:28, Lars Engels wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:21:17PM +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Navdeep Parhar wrote:
> >>
> >> > On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote
On 18 July 2014 14:21, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 12:10:34PM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>>
>> On 18 July 2014 07:28, Lars Engels wrote:
>> > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:21:17PM +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
>> >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Navdeep Parhar
On Jul 17, 2014, at 13:00, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> On 17 July 2014 12:57, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box
>>> 4) .. which means, when you do things like pkg install
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Craig Rodrigues
wrote:
>
> For (2), encouraging people to move away from Linux to FreeBSD
> on the server, may be something where we can get more wins.
> I think we can do this by having more HOWTO articles on
> the FreeBSD web page that explain the following:
>
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014, Craig Rodrigues wrote:
What I'd like to see is an article on freebsd.org either on the wiki
or in the handbook, which compares using apt, yum, rpm, whatever
to pkg. Is anyone interested in working on an article like this?
I don't have the bandwidth right now.
A person to
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 03:05:32PM -0600, Warren Block wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014, Craig Rodrigues wrote:
>
> >What I'd like to see is an article on freebsd.org either on the wiki
> >or in the handbook, which compares using apt, yum, rpm, whatever
> >to pkg. Is anyone interested in working on a
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 12:10:34PM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> Hi!
>
>
> On 18 July 2014 07:28, Lars Engels wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:21:17PM +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Navdeep Parhar wrote:
> >>
> >> > On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote
Hi!
I like it! It's a useful command line API.
Eventually people will realise there needs to be a more formal method
for describing/controlling the underlying framework, but I leave that
up to bapt to figure out and .. well, push people to do. :)
Thanks!
-a
On 19 July 2014 09:08, Lars Engels
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