Re: Why delete KDE3 ports?

2013-01-09 Thread Jakub Lach
nge to KDE4. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Why-delete-KDE3-ports-tp5775510p5776226.html Sent from the freebsd-ports mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.

Re: Why delete KDE3 ports?

2013-01-09 Thread Mikhail T.
On 09.01.2013 14:53, Adam Vande More wrote: I don't use knotes, but have you tried the solution here? http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=84823 Obviously, knotes was just an example. All other customizations (such as menus, backgrounds&screen-savers, email accounts -- everything under ~/.k

Re: Why delete KDE3 ports?

2013-01-09 Thread Adam Vande More
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Mikhail T. wrote: > Worse, KDE4 is not only much heavier (which could've been acceptable). This is simply not true, or at least easily remediable. A few clicks leads to nice UI experience with roughly the same amount of overheard as the 3.x series. There are a n

Re: Why delete KDE3 ports?

2013-01-09 Thread Jakub Lach
this thread... -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Why-delete-KDE3-ports-tp5775510p5776156.html Sent from the freebsd-ports mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebs

Re: Why delete KDE3 ports?

2013-01-09 Thread Mikhail T.
On 08.01.2013 19:02, Jakub Lach wrote: I'm on the fence. It's true, that there is no low-print feature complete equivalent for KDE3. Worse, KDE4 is not only much heavier (which could've been acceptable). It is also not compatible -- people like myself, who customized their desktops with additio

Re: Why delete KDE3 ports?

2013-01-08 Thread Jakub Lach
nabble.com/Why-delete-KDE3-ports-tp5775510p5775952.html Sent from the freebsd-ports mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to &quo

Re: Why delete KDE3 ports?

2013-01-08 Thread Raphael Kubo da Costa
John Marino writes: > On 1/8/2013 21:14, Raphael Kubo da Costa wrote: >> Additionally, I'd argue that it is hard for it to be "known insecure" >> since upstream does not maintain it even for security vulnerabilities >> anymore, so security problems have nowhere to be reported and >> vulnerabiliti

Re: Why delete KDE3 ports?

2013-01-08 Thread John Marino
On 1/8/2013 21:14, Raphael Kubo da Costa wrote: Adam Vande More writes: On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 12:53 PM, John Marino wrote: "possibly insecure": I think this needs to be "known insecure" rather than holding it's last release date against it. http://www.kde.org/info/security/advisory-20100

Re: Why delete KDE3 ports?

2013-01-08 Thread Raphael Kubo da Costa
Adam Vande More writes: > On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 12:53 PM, John Marino wrote: >> "possibly insecure": I think this needs to be "known insecure" rather >> than holding it's last release date against it. > > http://www.kde.org/info/security/advisory-20100413-1.txt > > Probably other security issu

Re: Why delete KDE3 ports?

2013-01-07 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 12:53 PM, John Marino wrote: > >> >> Here's the issue I think some folks have: >> >> "Outdated": debatable. If outdated means a newer release is available, >> then yes. If "outdated" means it outlived its usefulnes

Re: Why delete KDE3 ports?

2013-01-07 Thread Adam Vande More
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 12:53 PM, John Marino wrote: > > Here's the issue I think some folks have: > > "Outdated": debatable. If outdated means a newer release is available, > then yes. If "outdated" means it outlived its usefulness, I'd say no. This > term seems subjectively used here. > > "pro

Re: Why delete KDE3 ports?

2013-01-07 Thread John Marino
On 1/7/2013 19:40, Beat Gaetzi wrote: On 01/07/13 15:22, Mikhail T. wrote: Once again a working port (no build errors) is scheduled for deletion on the grounds of simply being "unmaintained". QT 3.3.8 was released in 2007 and KDE 3.5.10 in 2008 and both are no longer maintained upstream nor in

Re: Why delete KDE3 ports?

2013-01-07 Thread Beat Gaetzi
On 01/07/13 15:22, Mikhail T. wrote: > On 07.01.2013 03:33, freebsd-ports-requ...@freebsd.org wrote: >> portname: accessibility/kdeaccessibility description: >> Accessibility applications for KDE maintainer:po...@freebsd.org >> deprecated because: Depends on QT3; unmaintained expiration

Re: Why delete KDE3 ports?

2013-01-07 Thread Andrea Venturoli
On 01/07/13 15:43, John Marino wrote: I don't normally agree with Mikhail's rants to save old ports, but in the case of KDE-3, I am inclined to share his view. Are KDE-3 ports causing any problems? I don't know if KDE-3 is still be developed upstream, but if it's not it doesn't really need muc

Re: Why delete KDE3 ports?

2013-01-07 Thread Erik Trulsson
Quoting "Mikhail T." : On 07.01.2013 09:54, Kimmo Paasiala wrote: Are you willing to step up as the maintainer of the KDE3 ports? Or anyone else reading this? The situation with ports like KDE3 is that they are lots of work to keep up in shape and if no one wants to maintain them they succumb t

Re: Why delete KDE3 ports?

2013-01-07 Thread John Marino
On 1/7/2013 16:04, Mikhail T. wrote: On 07.01.2013 09:54, Kimmo Paasiala wrote: Are you willing to step up as the maintainer of the KDE3 ports? Or anyone else reading this? The situation with ports like KDE3 is that they are lots of work to keep up in shape and if no one wants to maintain them t

Re: Why delete KDE3 ports?

2013-01-07 Thread Mikhail T.
On 07.01.2013 09:54, Kimmo Paasiala wrote: Are you willing to step up as the maintainer of the KDE3 ports? Or anyone else reading this? The situation with ports like KDE3 is that they are lots of work to keep up in shape and if no one wants to maintain them they succumb to what is called "bitrot"

Re: Why delete KDE3 ports?

2013-01-07 Thread Kimmo Paasiala
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 4:43 PM, John Marino wrote: > On 1/7/2013 15:22, Mikhail T. wrote: >> >> On 07.01.2013 03:33, freebsd-ports-requ...@freebsd.org wrote: >>> >>> portname: accessibility/kdeaccessibility >>> description: Accessibility applications for KDE >>> maintainer:po...@freebsd.org >>> de

Re: Why delete KDE3 ports?

2013-01-07 Thread Mikhail T.
On 07.01.2013 09:41, David Demelier wrote: Because Qt3 is old and KDE3 will completely disappear. This is exactly the sentiment I find disagreeable -- that simply being "old" is enough to condemn a perfectly functional piece of software. Maybe, it is because of my own age, that I am -- in the

Re: Why delete KDE3 ports?

2013-01-07 Thread John Marino
On 1/7/2013 15:22, Mikhail T. wrote: On 07.01.2013 03:33, freebsd-ports-requ...@freebsd.org wrote: portname: accessibility/kdeaccessibility description: Accessibility applications for KDE maintainer:po...@freebsd.org deprecated because: Depends on QT3; unmaintained expiration date: 2013-07-01 bu

Re: Why delete KDE3 ports?

2013-01-07 Thread David Demelier
Because Qt3 is old and KDE3 will completely disappear. It the same goal for GNOME 2 (not for now because GNOME 3 is not yet available) but GNOME 2 will ne probably replaced by MATE. I think you should look at trinity. It is a fork of KDE3 and is in development to be ported to Qt4 :) http://mate-d

Why delete KDE3 ports?

2013-01-07 Thread Mikhail T.
On 07.01.2013 03:33, freebsd-ports-requ...@freebsd.org wrote: portname: accessibility/kdeaccessibility description:Accessibility applications for KDE maintainer:po...@freebsd.org deprecated because: Depends on QT3; unmaintained expiration date:2013-07-01 build errors: