Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-13 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Matthias Andree wrote: An obscure piece of software is undesirable (and shouldn't be ported in the first place). Bullshit! I think that suffices. If the discussion is getting emotional, we should stop it. No. You should stop advocating killing ports, or leave, or be revoked. FreeBSD

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-13 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi, Reference: From: Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:44:37 +0100 Message-id: cadlo83-zcvaeyznw5dtehv1tosburzllr2hjxfjrx_qewph...@mail.gmail.com Chris Rees wrote: On 12 September 2011 22:18, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: Matthias

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-13 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Chris Rees wrote: On 12 September 2011 22:18, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: Matthias Andree wrote: An obscure piece of software is undesirable (and shouldn't be ported in the first place). Bullshit! I think that suffices.  If the discussion is getting emotional, we

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-13 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi, Reference: From: Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:25:01 +0100 Message-id: CADLo838gUfrGhOYWYBym=5yiatyjy8r9bndxcu8gmbjebre...@mail.gmail.com Chris Rees wrote: On 13 September 2011 18:54, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: Hi,

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-13 Thread Chris Rees
On 13 Sep 2011 20:57, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: Hi, Reference: From: Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:25:01 +0100 Message-id: CADLo838gUfrGhOYWYBym= 5yiatyjy8r9bndxcu8gmbjebre...@mail.gmail.com Chris Rees wrote: On 13 September

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-13 Thread Glen Barber
On 9/13/11 4:52 PM, Chris Rees wrote: I'm rather tired of being called to defend myself, I see no reason why you should find it necessary. Bravo for the work you've done. I've plenty of better things to be doing. Agreed. Julian, amongst others this past few weeks, have successfully made

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-10 Thread Matthias Andree
An obscure piece of software is undesirable (and shouldn't be ported in the first place). Bullshit! I think that suffices. If the discussion is getting emotional, we should stop it. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-08 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Matthias Andree wrote: Am 08.09.2011 16:15, schrieb Mikhail T.: Having a poor port of an obscure piece of software is better, than no port at all. A poor port is undesirable (and shouldn't be in the tree in the first place). Wrong. A `poor' port is is still a port else it would be

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-08 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 03:01:09AM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Matthias Andree wrote: Am 08.09.2011 16:15, schrieb Mikhail T.: Having a poor port of an obscure piece of software is better, than no port at all. A poor port is undesirable (and shouldn't be in the tree in the

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-08 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 06:36:46PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: Am 08.09.2011 16:15, schrieb Mikhail T.: Having a poor port of an obscure piece of software is better, than no port at all. A poor port is undesirable (and shouldn't be in the tree in the first place). Highly debatable.

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-08 Thread Greg Byshenk
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 08:15:04PM -0400, Mikhail T. wrote: On -10.01.-28163 14:59, Doug Barton wrote: Non sequitur. The large number of ports that we support IS a feature. However, it's also a pretty big maintenance burden. Especially when you consider the number of those ports that are

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-08 Thread Mikhail T.
On 08.09.2011 04:42, Greg Byshenk wrote: For many people, what THERE IS A PORT OF IT actually -means- is that the user can go to ports and install a -working- version of the software, not merley that there is something called 'IT' somewhere in the ports tree that may or may not work. Some

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-08 Thread Michel Talon
Mikhail T. wrote: Having to deal with RedHat's yum at work, I got to say, I'd rather be building from source, than installing from consistent packages, that somebody else built *to their* tastes. Fedora crap is a very bad example. The canonical example of a binary distribution which *works* is

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-08 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 08.09.2011 16:15, schrieb Mikhail T.: Having a poor port of an obscure piece of software is better, than no port at all. A poor port is undesirable (and shouldn't be in the tree in the first place). An obscure piece of software is undesirable (and shouldn't be ported in the first place).

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-08 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 06:36:46PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: Am 08.09.2011 16:15, schrieb Mikhail T.: An obscure piece of software is undesirable (and shouldn't be ported in the first place). Wait -- what? Why should something not be ported if it's not popular? -- Chad Perrin [

ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-07 Thread Mikhail T.
On -10.01.-28163 14:59, Doug Barton wrote: Non sequitur. The large number of ports that we support IS a feature. However, it's also a pretty big maintenance burden. Especially when you consider the number of those ports that are either actually or effectively unmaintained. Support? What