firefox3 crashes after ports upgrade

2009-04-26 Thread Yuri
Yesterday I updated ports. And now firefox3 crashes right after start. Windows firefox3 under wine also has some graphics defects, many icons are jammed. Some icons in kde4 applets are oversized. Something isn't quite right. Anyone has similar problems? Yuri __

6.3 -> 6.4 and freebsd-update

2009-04-26 Thread Victor Sudakov
Colleagues, I have updated 6.3-RELEASE to 6.4-RELEASE-p4 (actually recent RELENG_6_4) from source (make buildworld etc). However "freebsd-update cron" still insists that I should update my system: The following files will be updated as part of updating to 6.4-RELEASE-p4: /lib/libc.so.6 /lib/lib

SMS I/O Control - Simple and Cost-Effective

2009-04-26 Thread Exemys
This is a message in multipart MIME format. Your mail client should not be displaying this. Consider upgrading your mail client to view this message correctly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/fr

Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer?

2009-04-26 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:52:56 -0400, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > Last week I have installed Solaris 10 ( 2008-10 ) on a PC ( x86 ) > having an Intel main board . It did not recognize Philips 220WS LCD ( > 1680 x 1050 ) monitor and selected itself a text-mode install and also > booted in text mo

Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer?

2009-04-26 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:44:10 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:28:55 +0300, Giorgos Keramidas > wrote: >> I think this is a reasonable approach to the problem of which >> installation mode to launch. The default is `user friendly', [...] > > No, the default is GUI. That's a big

Re: Partitioning for multiple systems

2009-04-26 Thread Jorg Andersson
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 03:45:33PM -0600, Tim Judd wrote: > I don't recall FreeBSD supporting extended partitions... at all I remember reading they aren't in /dev/ but still is mountable. Is this still the case? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing

Re: Partitioning for multiple systems

2009-04-26 Thread Tim Judd
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Michael David Crawford wrote: > I have a machine I plan to use solely for testing. I have FreeBSD > 8.0-CURRENT on it right now, and would like to add FreeBSD 7.2-RC2 as well > as CentOS 5.3 Linux. > > Presently I have three Master Boot Record primary partitions

Re: Is 'kldunload msdosfs_iconv' supposed to be safe? It hangs the system.

2009-04-26 Thread Paul B. Mahol
On 4/26/09, Yuri wrote: > I've compiled kernel without msdosfs. > When I mount some FAT system msdosfs.ko,msdosfs_iconv.ko,libiconv.ko are > being loaded. > When I unmount this FAT all those .ko modules stay. > 'kldunload msdosfs' unloads it ok. > But 'kldunload msdosfs_iconv' hangs OS immediately

Re: X and optimizing Kernel Resources

2009-04-26 Thread ill...@gmail.com
2009/4/25 Christopher Chambers : > Hi, > > Is there a guide that talks about how to optimize the kernel memory > resources (kern.ipc.shmmax, etc)? > Like man 7 tuning? -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailma

Re: Partitioning for multiple systems

2009-04-26 Thread ill...@gmail.com
2009/4/26 Michael David Crawford : > I have a machine I plan to use solely for testing.  I have FreeBSD > 8.0-CURRENT on it right now, and would like to add FreeBSD 7.2-RC2 as well > as CentOS 5.3 Linux. > > Presently I have three Master Boot Record primary partitions - "slices" in > the FreeBSD pa

Re: mergemaster -U overwriting modified files

2009-04-26 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg
On Apr 25, 2009, at 5:10 AM, Peter Schuller wrote: Unfortunately I recently discovered that it does not seem to do what you might expect. For example it nuked my mailer.conf on one machine, and my /etc/namedb/named.conf (!!!) on another machine. Me, too. I lost exactly those two files during

Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer?

2009-04-26 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:19:31 -0700, Michael David Crawford wrote: > I got cursed up in heaps on the debian-user list, because I had the gall > to assert that just installing a service shouldn't actually start it > running. Security considerations apply here. As well as "should the system recog

Re: ntp problem

2009-04-26 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg
On Apr 20, 2009, at 11:19 AM, Lisa Casey wrote: Running FreeBSD 5.3 IN /etc/ntp.conf I have: server time.nist.gov prefer server tock.gpsclock.com Your actual question has already been answered, but I'd like to point out that people really shouldn't be using those NTP servers unless you h

Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer?

2009-04-26 Thread Michael David Crawford
I got cursed up in heaps on the debian-user list, because I had the gall to assert that just installing a service shouldn't actually start it running. I said that because I had done a full Gnome install on my PowerMac 8500. What I didn't realize ahead of time was that it was going to install

Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer?

2009-04-26 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:52:56 -0400, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > For such reasons , personally , I hate > > (1) auto-start installations . Dangerous. Simply dangerous. Something as important an the installation of an operating system should not rely on assumptions and guessings... "the user w

Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer?

2009-04-26 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:11:36 +0200, "Neo [GC]" wrote: > Just my two cents: I may add two Eurocents. :-) > Why a graphical installer? Shure, it looks nice, easy, modern and more > accessable (examples: Mac OS X, Vista), but on the other hand, for me > FreeBSD never was intended to be fancy, b

Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer?

2009-04-26 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:18:55 +0200, Erik Trulsson > wrote: > > Better would be to check (somehow) for the presence of a keyboard and > > a screen. If those are not present forget about X. If they are > > present then the user at least

Re: X11 MGA driver and xrandr

2009-04-26 Thread Warren Block
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009, Steven Friedrich wrote: This system has been a dual-monitor since before the change-over from XFree86 to xorg. The change-over resulted in losing dual-monitor capability, but I've recently taken another shot at it. I knew I'd need to be patient during the change-over.

Partitioning for multiple systems

2009-04-26 Thread Michael David Crawford
I have a machine I plan to use solely for testing. I have FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT on it right now, and would like to add FreeBSD 7.2-RC2 as well as CentOS 5.3 Linux. Presently I have three Master Boot Record primary partitions - "slices" in the FreeBSD parlance, if I understand correctly: - A L

Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer?

2009-04-26 Thread Neo [GC]
Just my two cents: Why a graphical installer? Shure, it looks nice, easy, modern and more accessable (examples: Mac OS X, Vista), but on the other hand, for me FreeBSD never was intended to be fancy, but to be functional. The text mode installer: - works on every PC, every graphics card, ever

Is 'kldunload msdosfs_iconv' supposed to be safe? It hangs the system.

2009-04-26 Thread Yuri
I've compiled kernel without msdosfs. When I mount some FAT system msdosfs.ko,msdosfs_iconv.ko,libiconv.ko are being loaded. When I unmount this FAT all those .ko modules stay. 'kldunload msdosfs' unloads it ok. But 'kldunload msdosfs_iconv' hangs OS immediately making it unusable. My guess is

Re: portmaster -a on a live server

2009-04-26 Thread Mel Flynn
On Sunday 26 April 2009 01:12:48 Tom Worster wrote: > thanks for the tip, mel. i got rid of the ports involved and reinstalled > with WITHOUT_X11=yes and the install was faster and things are a lot > tidier. > > i had no idea that i ought to be configuring port builds with env vars. is > there doc

Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer?

2009-04-26 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:28:55 +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > I think this is a reasonable approach to the problem of which > installation mode to launch. The default is `user friendly', [...] No, the default is GUI. That's a big difference because it entirely depends on the user. Imagine a bl

Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer?

2009-04-26 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:06:58 +0200, beni wrote: > Why should a graphical installer have less functionality ? hasn't been claimed. GUI installer just requires more resources, more overhead. > And what is wrong > with some eye candy ? Eye candy is wrong exactly when it reduces functionality (i

Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer?

2009-04-26 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:18:55 +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote: > Better would be to check (somehow) for the presence of a keyboard and > a screen. If those are not present forget about X. If they are > present then the user at least has a possibility of using X. Deferring to the user all the decisio

X11 MGA driver and xrandr

2009-04-26 Thread Steven Friedrich
This system has been a dual-monitor since before the change-over from XFree86 to xorg. The change-over resulted in losing dual-monitor capability, but I've recently taken another shot at it. I knew I'd need to be patient during the change-over. Both monitors are presenting the same desktop,

Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer?

2009-04-26 Thread Tim Judd
> > > > I've also thought about the concept of a web-ui installer, even if it's > run > > from the local machine. The benefit of a webui installer is that you can > > give the disk to someone, tell them to put it up on a publically > available > > IP address and just sit back and let it run. but

Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer?

2009-04-26 Thread Daniel Underwood
I didn't say a graphical installer has less functionality. I said it has no more. On Sunday, April 26, 2009, beni wrote: > On Sunday 26 April 2009 16:23:58 Rolf G Nielsen wrote: >> Glen Barber wrote: >> > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Wojciech Puchar >> > >> > wrote: >> >>> software installat

Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer?

2009-04-26 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Sunday, April 26, 2009 a las 10:59:07AM -0400, Daniel Underwood escribió: > > nonsense. please stop this stupid discussion > > at all Sometimes I'm thinking in blacklist mails based on the Subject line in my ~/.procmailrc file; this thread 'Modern FreeBSD Installer?' for example would dese

Re: Hardwire drive0 to ad0 on hw raid.

2009-04-26 Thread Leon Meßner
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 08:39:09PM -0600, Tim Judd wrote: > On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Leon Meßner > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > i'm having a problem with the disk numbering of RAID arrays (3ware > > 9650SE). When i boot, the array with my system is always the last > > numbered drive (ATM its a

Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer?

2009-04-26 Thread beni
On Sunday 26 April 2009 16:23:58 Rolf G Nielsen wrote: > Glen Barber wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Wojciech Puchar > > > > wrote: > >>> software installation CPU/RAM needs), run the dialog(3) interface. If > >>> it's > >>> a fast 686, default to a X environment. > >> > >> nonsense.

Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer?

2009-04-26 Thread Daniel Underwood
> nonsense. please stop this stupid discussion > at all Agreed. Only add GUI installer if it allows added functionality. Since text mode can do everything GUI mode can do (with less overhead), there is absolutely no reason to introduce a GUI installer. Let's diverge onto discussing functionality

Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer?

2009-04-26 Thread Rolf G Nielsen
Glen Barber wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: software installation CPU/RAM needs), run the dialog(3) interface. If it's a fast 686, default to a X environment. nonsense. please stop this stupid discussion at all. just use linux or windows (maybe PC-BSD) if it's

Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer?

2009-04-26 Thread Glen Barber
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Rolf G Nielsen wrote: > > And why is a graphical installer needed or even wanted? As several people, > including, I believe, Wojciech, pointed out, it would just make the > installation process slower without adding anything useful to functionality. > Concentrate

fatal error from /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.linux-apps.mk

2009-04-26 Thread William Bulley
On Friday I ran the following: # cd /usr/local/etc/cvsup # csup -L2 ports-supfile # csup -L2 doc-supfile # csup -L2 stable-supfile (tag=RELENG_7) I then rebuilt the world and installed it. When I rebooted, I was very pleasantly surprised to find: % uname -a FreeBSD freebsd 7.2-PRE

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2009-04-26 Thread aminurrashid b mohamed rasdi
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aminurrashid b mohamed rasdi says...

2009-04-26 Thread aminurrashid b mohamed rasdi
Everyday, you say something. You SMS, chat online, and talk to your friends and family. What if you got rewarded for your say? More than 156,141 young Malaysians and I have been active in this community and I thought you would want to check it out. How does it work? * Get paid when you take s

Re: Software raid5 through a sata port multiplier

2009-04-26 Thread Maxim Khitrov
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> thinking that a software raid5 solution may not be such a bad idea. > > software raid5 isn't any more bad than hardware raid5 most cases. > > just raid5 is bad if you use it in ANY type of load except: > > a) mostly reads - then set LARGE

Re: Converting the partition type

2009-04-26 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 02:14:43PM -0700, Christopher Chambers wrote: > Hi, > > I have an msdos partition with a large amount of data. Is there a way to > convert to a ufs partition without having to remove the data off the > partition first? Not that one. You could use one of the commercial uti

Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer?

2009-04-26 Thread Glen Barber
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> software installation CPU/RAM needs), run the dialog(3) interface.  If >> it's >> a fast 686, default to a X environment. > > nonsense. please stop this stupid discussion at all. > > just use linux or windows (maybe PC-BSD) if it's importa

Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer?

2009-04-26 Thread Wojciech Puchar
software installation CPU/RAM needs), run the dialog(3) interface. If it's a fast 686, default to a X environment. nonsense. please stop this stupid discussion at all. just use linux or windows (maybe PC-BSD) if it's important for you. ___ freebsd-qu

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Re: mergemaster -U overwriting modified files

2009-04-26 Thread Frederique Rijsdijk
Bruce Cran wrote: On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 12:10:42 +0200 Peter Schuller wrote: I recently began testing mergemaster -U since the perpetual "review diff of file I never touched" grows annoying real quick. Unfortunately I recently discovered that it does not seem to do what you might expect. For