Re: lost network during freebsd-update install

2011-03-10 Thread C. Bergström
Bas Smeelen wrote: It would be nice if freebsd-update had the same command sequence (without the build parts) as in a source upgrade. First fetch of course, then freebsd-update installkernel with a message to reboot on succes or rollback on failure, then after reboot freebsd-update installworld,

Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?

2011-03-10 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 03/11/2011 01:10 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:46:42 +0100, Bas Smeelen wrote: >> Do you plan to update FreeBSD and installed ports on your servers on a >> regular basis? >> Then I would not recommend installing graphical window ports (applications) >> on these servers, because

Re: lost network during freebsd-update install

2011-03-10 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 03/10/2011 04:24 PM, Tom Worster wrote: > before resorting to cd. Hi, I've read your last post, this sucks. I missed a point which you have thought about (see below) The best thing would have been either rollback or reboot and continue, see below. > the handbook describes a procedure: > > A) 1s

Re: xpdf can not print via cups if started from firefox

2011-03-10 Thread O. Hartmann
On 03/11/11 01:13, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:38:19 +0100, "O. Hartmann" wrote: On 03/08/11 16:51, Warren Block wrote: On Tue, 8 Mar 2011, O. Hartmann wrote: I've got a weird problem here. Very often I download scientific papers as pdf from protals and they got opened via fire

Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?

2011-03-10 Thread Juan C. Valido
Well. I don't really know what I'm doing but you offer some great advice, thanks. For an old man I learn fast, I don't mind doing research and of course RTFM :-) On Fri, 2011-03-11 at 01:10 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:46:42 +0100, Bas Smeelen wrote: > > Do you plan to update

Re: lost network during freebsd-update install

2011-03-10 Thread Tom Worster
On 3/10/11 12:48 PM, "Jason Helfman" wrote: >Good idea. Rollback does work, and has worked for me in a very similar >situation, and hopefully will work for you as well. After the rollback, >reboot, and start again from your initial upgrade command. I would highly >recommend using tmux, and also i

Re: Re[2]: (no subject)

2011-03-10 Thread Devin Teske
On Fri, 2011-03-11 at 01:42 +0300, Австин Ким wrote: > Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:48:42 + письмо от Devin Teske : > > > On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 19:53 +0100, Terje Elde wrote: > > > > > On 10. mars 2011, at 18.38, 6412037...@email.uscc.net wrote: > > > > Does OpenBSD use the same kernel as FreeBSD? >

Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship

2011-03-10 Thread Julian H. Stacey
> Sorry, Julian, but Chuck had it _legally_ correctly, for the U.S.A.. ... etc ... Thanks for the explanation Robert. Sad that people are not free to speak. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text; Not quoted-printable,

Re: using dovecot, where is ICOMING mail stored?

2011-03-10 Thread Daniel Staal
--As of March 10, 2011 1:36:45 PM -0800, Gary Kline is alleged to have said: I did try pointing mutt -f at my saved backup /usr/tmp/.../Maildir. Nothing. My copies of saved mail are there, but not what was in the unread queue. I was testing out mutt from a lapt

Re: xpdf can not print via cups if started from firefox

2011-03-10 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:38:19 +0100, "O. Hartmann" wrote: > On 03/08/11 16:51, Warren Block wrote: > > On Tue, 8 Mar 2011, O. Hartmann wrote: > > > >> I've got a weird problem here. Very often I download scientific papers > >> as pdf from protals and they got opened via firefox3 with the > >> conf

Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?

2011-03-10 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:46:42 +0100, Bas Smeelen wrote: > Do you plan to update FreeBSD and installed ports on your servers on a > regular basis? > Then I would not recommend installing graphical window ports (applications) > on these servers, because it can give you a lot of time, work e.g. > unne

Re[2]: (no subject)

2011-03-10 Thread Австин Ким
Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:48:42 + письмо от Devin Teske : > On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 19:53 +0100, Terje Elde wrote: > > > On 10. mars 2011, at 18.38, 6412037...@email.uscc.net wrote: > > > Does OpenBSD use the same kernel as FreeBSD? > > > > I think your question about the relationship between *nixes

RE: Nonsensical Web Log Entries

2011-03-10 Thread peter
I'm still kind of confused about why Apache doesn't say "what in the world are you talking about" when these bizarre requests arrive, but there's no indication that anything untoward is occurring. Perhaps newer versions do. I'm using what's probably a really old installation. At 0

Re: using dovecot, where is ICOMING mail stored?

2011-03-10 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 01:03:43PM +, Daniel Bye wrote: > On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 05:23:34PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > Does anybody know about this obscure stuff? > > [[ ... ]] > > If you haven't changed the dovecot config file, look in it for the > mail_location setting. Fo

Re: using dovecot, where is ICOMING mail stored?

2011-03-10 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 09:38:21AM +0800, Foo JH wrote: > On 3/10/2011 9:23 AM, Gary Kline wrote: > >Does anybody know about this obscure stuff? > Disclaimer: I don't really know much about dovecot, except that it's > a much better IMAP daemon than courier - I don't think dovecot > handles SMTP: in

Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship

2011-03-10 Thread Jon Radel
On 3/10/11 2:39 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Charlie Kesterwrote: Especially if you earmark it for a specific project. You can't do that via a donation to the FreeBSD Foundation, only offer a suggestion. If the amount of money is large enough, I strongly s

RE: Nonsensical Web Log Entries

2011-03-10 Thread Michael J. Kearney
How is your research going along? No harm no foul, right? Did you find what you had expected to find or some other anomoly? I'm stuck with these packets trying to reverse engineer the software that rendered them... lol "pe...@vfemail.net" wrote: I had to change fxp0 to xl0, but that tcpdump c

Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship

2011-03-10 Thread Nikola Pavlović
On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 02:00:37PM -0800, Nerius Landys wrote: > This is not a technical question. > > Basically I have some cash sitting around. I'm thinking of investing > part of it with a company that I believe in. Apple came to mind. You > could say that I'd like to judge Apple's moral cha

Re: (no subject)

2011-03-10 Thread Devin Teske
On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 19:53 +0100, Terje Elde wrote: > On 10. mars 2011, at 18.38, 6412037...@email.uscc.net wrote: > > Does OpenBSD use the same kernel as FreeBSD? > > I think your question about the relationship between *nixes can best be > answered by a 4487 × 29437 diagram, which can be foun

Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship

2011-03-10 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 01:48:05PM -0500, Jerry wrote: > > Personally, I donate to the Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center. I find > donating money to help find a cure for a disease or aid those that have > all ready contracted it far more satisfying that giving it away to a > foundation in the hopes th

Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship

2011-03-10 Thread Adam Vande More
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Charlie Kester wrote: > Especially if you earmark it for a specific > project. You can't do that via a donation to the FreeBSD Foundation, only offer a suggestion. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship

2011-03-10 Thread Charlie Kester
On Thu 10 Mar 2011 at 10:48:05 PST Jerry wrote: On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:39:04 -0800 Charlie Kester articulated: On Thu 10 Mar 2011 at 05:51:06 PST Tom Worster wrote: >and as far as investing in corporate stock is concerned, oss virtue >(like environmental virtue or sweat shop virtue) is just so

Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship

2011-03-10 Thread Jerry
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:53:47 -0800 David Brodbeck articulated: > On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Mark Felder wrote: > > On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 17:31:32 -0600, Frank Shute > > wrote: > > > >> Apple produces the clusterfuck that is CUPS, I believe. > > > > > > Apple took over the CUPS project. They

RE: Nonsensical Web Log Entries

2011-03-10 Thread peter
I had to change fxp0 to xl0, but that tcpdump command is very cool, very instructive and very reassuring. Thank you. At 05:57 PM 3/9/2011, Michael J. Kearney wrote: >I don't know if I got through the last time but you ... could... add to but >not take away from your operational m

Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship

2011-03-10 Thread Robert Huff
David Brodbeck writes: > >> Apple produces the clusterfuck that is CUPS, I believe. > > > > Apple took over the CUPS project. They didn't write it. They're > > improving it a lot with every major OSX release, so I'm not > > sure why you're so upset. > > I think a lot of the hate for CUPS

Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship

2011-03-10 Thread David Brodbeck
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Mark Felder wrote: > On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 17:31:32 -0600, Frank Shute wrote: > >> Apple produces the clusterfuck that is CUPS, I believe. > > > Apple took over the CUPS project. They didn't write it. They're improving it > a lot with every major OSX release, so I'm

Re: (no subject)

2011-03-10 Thread Terje Elde
On 10. mars 2011, at 18.38, 6412037...@email.uscc.net wrote: > Does OpenBSD use the same kernel as FreeBSD? I think your question about the relationship between *nixes can best be answered by a 4487 × 29437 diagram, which can be found in several formats here: http://www.unix-diagram.org/ Terje

Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship

2011-03-10 Thread Jerry
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:39:04 -0800 Charlie Kester articulated: > On Thu 10 Mar 2011 at 05:51:06 PST Tom Worster wrote: > >and as far as investing in corporate stock is concerned, oss virtue > >(like environmental virtue or sweat shop virtue) is just so much > >marketing blather. a corporation's r

Re: ZFS snapshot of root filesystem?

2011-03-10 Thread Scott Ballantyne
Following up on my own question: zfs snapshot zroot@MARCH_10_2011 is the way to go. Sorry to trouble you. On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Scott Ballantyne wrote: > Hi, > > Having a ZFS filesystem on root, such that zfs list shows: > > zroot with a mountpoint of LEGACY > zroot/tmp with a moun

ZFS snapshot of root filesystem?

2011-03-10 Thread Scott Ballantyne
Hi, Having a ZFS filesystem on root, such that zfs list shows: zroot with a mountpoint of LEGACY zroot/tmp with a mountpoint of /tmp zroot/usr with a mountpoint of /usr etc. How do I create a snapshot of / ? zfs snapshot zroot/usr@March_10_2011 works fine.. but that snapshots only /usr, not

Re: lost network during freebsd-update install

2011-03-10 Thread Jason Helfman
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:24:30AM -0500, Tom Worster thus spake: On 3/10/11 9:13 AM, "Bas Smeelen" wrote: On 03/10/2011 03:03 PM, Tom Worster wrote: at this stage, i have no remote access. even if i could gain access, i wouldn't know what state it's in or how to proceed. it's probably best n

Re: (no subject)

2011-03-10 Thread Svein Skogen (Listmail account)
On 10.03.2011 18:38, 6412037...@email.uscc.net wrote: > Does OpenBSD use the same kernel as FreeBSD? No. OpenBSD uses the OpenBSD kernel. //Svein -- +---+--- /"\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP

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2011-03-10 Thread 6412037195
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Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship

2011-03-10 Thread Charlie Kester
On Wed 09 Mar 2011 at 14:00:37 PST Nerius Landys wrote: This is not a technical question. Basically I have some cash sitting around. I'm thinking of investing part of it with a company that I believe in. Apple came to mind. You could say that I'd like to judge Apple's moral character before i

Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship

2011-03-10 Thread Robert Bonomi
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > From: "Julian H. Stacey" > Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:36:29 +0100 > Subject: Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship > > Aside, On Disclaimers:: > Chuck Swiger wrote: > > Hi-- > > > > #include > > > > It wouldn't be considered appropr

Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship

2011-03-10 Thread Mark Felder
On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 17:31:32 -0600, Frank Shute wrote: Apple produces the clusterfuck that is CUPS, I believe. Apple took over the CUPS project. They didn't write it. They're improving it a lot with every major OSX release, so I'm not sure why you're so upset. Apple is the company that i

Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship

2011-03-10 Thread Charlie Kester
On Thu 10 Mar 2011 at 05:51:06 PST Tom Worster wrote: and as far as investing in corporate stock is concerned, oss virtue (like environmental virtue or sweat shop virtue) is just so much marketing blather. a corporation's responsibility is to make money for its investors. business ethics is and a

Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship

2011-03-10 Thread Daniel Staal
On Thu, March 10, 2011 8:51 am, Tom Worster wrote: > i think it's deeper than that. they know what they are doing. > > back at the beginning, os x was great. finally a decent, user-friendly gui > on top of a decent unix-like thing, which, oh joy, felt like bsd. for > years, apple improved os x and

Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship

2011-03-10 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi questions@, Original question from Nerius Landys : > Basically I have some cash sitting around. I'm thinking of investing > part of it with a company that I believe in. Apple came to mind. You > could say that I'd like to judge Apple's moral character before > investing money with them. Do

Re: lost network during freebsd-update install

2011-03-10 Thread Tom Worster
On 3/10/11 9:13 AM, "Bas Smeelen" wrote: >On 03/10/2011 03:03 PM, Tom Worster wrote: >>at this stage, i have no remote access. even if i could gain access, i >>wouldn't know what state it's in or how to proceed. it's probably best >>now >>to pay for the hosting company to install 8.1 from cd. >We

Re: lost network during freebsd-update install

2011-03-10 Thread Alexandre
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote: > On 03/10/2011 02:37 PM, Tom Worster wrote: > BTW Yes I mean sysutils/screen > There is also TMUX http://www.freshports.org/sysutils/tmux/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.

Re: lost network during freebsd-update install

2011-03-10 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 03/10/2011 03:03 PM, Tom Worster wrote: > at this stage, i have no remote access. even if i could gain access, i > wouldn't know what state it's in or how to proceed. it's probably best now > to pay for the hosting company to install 8.1 from cd. Well if this is an option. But before paying and

Re: lost network during freebsd-update install

2011-03-10 Thread Tom Worster
at this stage, i have no remote access. even if i could gain access, i wouldn't know what state it's in or how to proceed. it's probably best now to pay for the hosting company to install 8.1 from cd. On 3/10/11 8:54 AM, "Bas Smeelen" wrote: >On 03/10/2011 02:37 PM, Tom Worster wrote: >> freebs

Re: lost network during freebsd-update install

2011-03-10 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 03/10/2011 02:37 PM, Tom Worster wrote: > freebsd-update install > Installing updates...Bad system call (core dumped) But your server is running and other services are ok? Is your kernel still 7.1 ? I guess it should be. (uname -a) Looks like either a newer version of freebsd-update already go

Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship

2011-03-10 Thread Tom Worster
On 3/9/11 8:57 PM, "mikel king" wrote: >In recent years their marketing as gone to some lengths to scrub the >references to BSD & UNIX from the brochures. It's like they are ashamed >of their roots, again personally I think they hired some new anti-geeks >that just don't get it. i think it's dee

Re: lost network during freebsd-update install

2011-03-10 Thread Tom Worster
On 3/10/11 8:01 AM, "Bas Smeelen" wrote: >On 03/10/2011 01:52 PM, Tom Worster wrote: >>i was upgrading a remote machine from 7.1 to 8.1 with freebsd-update. >> >>the "freebsd-update -r 8.1-RELEASE upgrade" phase was complete and i had >>given: >> >># freebsd-update install >>Installing updates...

Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?

2011-03-10 Thread Juan C. Valido
Thank you, being a Windows guy, I didn't know about webmin, tried it and was impressed. New Server coming up no GUI... On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 08:39 +0100, Bas Smeelen wrote: > On 03/10/2011 04:33 AM, Juan C. Valido wrote: > > I'm an old "foggie" also and a lifetime Windows guy and I did a lot of >

Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?

2011-03-10 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 03/10/2011 01:46 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote: > On 03/10/2011 12:35 PM, Juan C. Valido wrote: >> A GUI on a server is just a matter of preference, I go back to before >> Dos 1.0 and when Windows came out, I fell in love. Now I've got to have >> a GUI on everything, besides as you get older the command

Re: using dovecot, where is ICOMING mail stored?

2011-03-10 Thread Daniel Bye
On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 05:23:34PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > Does anybody know about this obscure stuff? > > In late DEcember, 2007 my FreeBSD server started having serious > problems that were over my head. I asked this list for help but no > one could help me; long-story-short, a guy from t

Re: lost network during freebsd-update install

2011-03-10 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 03/10/2011 01:52 PM, Tom Worster wrote: > i was upgrading a remote machine from 7.1 to 8.1 with freebsd-update. > > the "freebsd-update -r 8.1-RELEASE upgrade" phase was complete and i had > given: > > # freebsd-update install > Installing updates... > > when the wifi on my local computer went a

lost network during freebsd-update install

2011-03-10 Thread Tom Worster
i was upgrading a remote machine from 7.1 to 8.1 with freebsd-update. the "freebsd-update -r 8.1-RELEASE upgrade" phase was complete and i had given: # freebsd-update install Installing updates... when the wifi on my local computer went away. eventually i restarted the wifi interface but the ssh

Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?

2011-03-10 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 03/10/2011 12:35 PM, Juan C. Valido wrote: > A GUI on a server is just a matter of preference, I go back to before > Dos 1.0 and when Windows came out, I fell in love. Now I've got to have > a GUI on everything, besides as you get older the command line becomes > harder (memory loss)... Do you p

Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?

2011-03-10 Thread Juan C. Valido
A GUI on a server is just a matter of preference, I go back to before Dos 1.0 and when Windows came out, I fell in love. Now I've got to have a GUI on everything, besides as you get older the command line becomes harder (memory loss)... On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 08:39 +0100, Bas Smeelen wrote: > On 03

Re: xpdf can not print via cups if started from firefox

2011-03-10 Thread O. Hartmann
On 03/08/11 16:51, Warren Block wrote: On Tue, 8 Mar 2011, O. Hartmann wrote: I've got a weird problem here. Very often I download scientific papers as pdf from protals and they got opened via firefox3 with the configured propper utility, in this case xpdf. In such a case, printing is impossibl