Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-20 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Tuesday 21 February 2012 13:20:11 Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth Erich Dollansky on Tuesday, 21 February 2012: > > On Tuesday 21 February 2012 12:26:03 Chip Camden wrote: > > > Quoth Erich Dollansky on Tuesday, 21 February 2012: > > > > On Monday 20 February 2012 21:44:43 Da Rock wrote: > > > >

Re: From analysis of a simple ifstated.conf to more compex example

2012-02-20 Thread Damien Fleuriot
To be honest, I'm not sure it's a good idea to use different *interfaces*. Why don't you set multiple IPs on a single carp interface instead ? On 21 Feb 2012, at 08:29, peter knezel wrote: > Hello Damien, > > preemption is set on both systems, so when master server goes down or > any CARP inte

Re: From analysis of a simple ifstated.conf to more compex example

2012-02-20 Thread peter knezel
Hello Damien, preemption is set on both systems, so when master server goes down or any CARP interface on master goes down, slave becomes master (but only on the CARP interface if only that went down). Can you have a look at my previous question??: if the different carp interfaces are used for di

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-20 Thread Doug Hardie
On 20 February 2012, at 22:20, Chip Camden wrote: >>> I believe the 5MB removable were RL01. They also had a 10MB removable >>> RL02, which we used for software distribution. We resold them to our >>> customers at $170 each. >> >> yes, this sound familiar. The RL02 came later. >> >> I think t

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-20 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Erich Dollansky on Tuesday, 21 February 2012: > Hi, > > On Tuesday 21 February 2012 12:26:03 Chip Camden wrote: > > Quoth Erich Dollansky on Tuesday, 21 February 2012: > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Monday 20 February 2012 21:44:43 Da Rock wrote: > > > > On 02/18/12 17:47, Erich Dollansky wrote:

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-20 Thread Robert Bonomi
Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Monday 20 February 2012 21:44:43 Da Rock wrote: > > On 02/18/12 17:47, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > >> There may have been a historic reason, but now it is philosophical - > > >> trying > > > when I got my hands for the first time on a BSD system, the machine h

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-20 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Erich Dollansky on Tuesday, 21 February 2012: > Hi, > > On Monday 20 February 2012 21:44:43 Da Rock wrote: > > On 02/18/12 17:47, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > >> There may have been a historic reason, but now it is philosophical - > > >> trying > > > when I got my hands for the first time

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-20 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Monday 20 February 2012 21:44:43 Da Rock wrote: > On 02/18/12 17:47, Erich Dollansky wrote: > >> There may have been a historic reason, but now it is philosophical - trying > > when I got my hands for the first time on a BSD system, the machine has had > > several 5MB hard disks. > > > >

Re: One or Four?

2012-02-20 Thread Paul Mather
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 08:39:53, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 17/02/2012 22:17, Chuck Swiger wrote: >> On Feb 17, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Robison, Dave wrote: We'd like a show of hands to see if folks prefer the "old" style default with 4 partitions and swap, or the newer iteration with 1 pa

Re: Hardware compatibility

2012-02-20 Thread Da Rock
On 02/21/12 05:35, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:35:43 +0100, Riccardo Garzelli wrote: I was thinking of purchasing a new laptop and I wanted to go for FreeBSD OS. Unfortunately I'm no brainer in Unix so I'd like to find a PC that can run FreeBSD 9.0 out of the box. Could you either t

netmap support in default kernel

2012-02-20 Thread Tim Stewart
Hi, I just heard about netmap today and it seems like it's not baked into the default FreeBSD kernel at the moment. Are there plans to integrate netmap into the default FreeBSD kernel? If so, what is an estimated time line for its inclusion in the defa

Re: CUPS 1.5.2 not working, like to test 1.4.x, how?

2012-02-20 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:46:52 +0100, Christopher J. Ruwe wrote: > Is there any documentation available on how to retrieve old ports from > the cvs-attic? I just don't know how, so that I could test my assumption > that CUPS 1.4.x should be working for my setup. There's a port to do so: portdowngrad

CUPS 1.5.2 not working, like to test 1.4.x, how?

2012-02-20 Thread Christopher J. Ruwe
I am trying to get CUPS 1.5.2 from ports working with my printer and I encounter a problem exactly like a bug described in http://www.cups.org/str.php?L4008, albeit with a Kyocera 1030-D instead of a kyocera 2000. In essence, CUPS 1.5.+ is sending corrupted data to some printers and the remedies s

Re: One or Four?

2012-02-20 Thread Robison, Dave
On 02/20/2012 09:44, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Jerry wrote: > >> So, the OP posted a question about normal and/or preferred use >> of FreeBSD and people responded. Or do you consider this thread >> to be too technical? Maybe the discussion could fit in Hackers. > Yes, > hackers@ Would hav

Re: some problems to enable journaling

2012-02-20 Thread RW
On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:47:08 +0200 Коньков Евгений wrote: > #gjournal label -f -s 256M /dev/ad10s1e > You aren't supposed to use -f and -s together: -fMay be used to convert an existing file system to use gjournal, but only if the journal will be configured on a se

deleting an alias from interface cause the static route to be deleted

2012-02-20 Thread Коньков Евгений
vlan74: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=3 ether f4:6d:04:7c:7b:d3 inet6 fe80::f66d:4ff:fe7c:7bd3%vlan74 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xd inet 10.1.26.1 netmask 0xfe00 broadcast 10.1.27.255 inet 10.1.26.3 netmask 0xfe00 broadcast 10.1.27.255 nd6

Re: Hardware compatibility

2012-02-20 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:35:43 +0100, Riccardo Garzelli wrote: > I was thinking of purchasing a new laptop and I wanted to go for FreeBSD > OS. Unfortunately I'm no brainer in Unix so I'd like to find a PC that can > run FreeBSD 9.0 out of the box. > Could you either tell me which hardware are suitab

Re: webcamd and device numbering

2012-02-20 Thread Hans Petter Selasky
Hi, Use the -v option to enforce a custom Video device number. Match the USB adapters by VID+PID and serial number in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/webcamd --HPS ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-qu

Re: newsyslog-local.conf

2012-02-20 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 20/02/2012 17:52, alexus wrote: > what else I can do then? Wait until tomorrow and see what happens. > i don't need syslogd.. > > this is vm, it runs nothing but squid, squid generates its own > logging, so no reason to run syslogd Well, it's up to you, but syslogd logs a lot more than the o

Re: Hardware compatibility

2012-02-20 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 05:35:43PM +0100, Riccardo Garzelli wrote: > Dear Information service > > I was thinking of purchasing a new laptop and I wanted to go for FreeBSD > OS. Unfortunately I'm no brainer in Unix so I'd like to find a PC that can > run FreeBSD 9.0 out of the box. The best way to

Re: fvwm-2.6.4 dumps core on 9.0-RELEASE

2012-02-20 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 08:58:28PM +0900, WATANABE Kazuhiro wrote: > Hi, all. > > I have updated my window manager (x11-wm/fvwm2) from 2.6.3 to 2.6.4. > It compiled on 9.0-RELEASE/i386 with the default option settings. > > After the update, fvwm2 crashes randomly and dumps core. > Does anyone hav

Re: newsyslog-local.conf

2012-02-20 Thread alexus
what else I can do then? i don't need syslogd.. this is vm, it runs nothing but squid, squid generates its own logging, so no reason to run syslogd On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 20/02/2012 17:29, alexus wrote: >> /var/log/squid/access.log <7J>: --> will trim at

Re: newsyslog-local.conf

2012-02-20 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 20/02/2012 17:29, alexus wrote: > /var/log/squid/access.log <7J>: --> will trim at Tue Feb 21 00:00:00 2012 > /var/log/squid/cache.log <7J>: --> will trim at Tue Feb 21 00:00:00 2012 OK -- this looks fine. It should cycle the log files overnight. Presumably you first setup the cycling of the

some problems to enable journaling

2012-02-20 Thread Коньков Евгений
Здравствуйте, Freebsd-questions. # uname -a FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #1 r231881: Fri Feb 17 17:20:09 UTC 2012 /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KES_KERN_v8 amd64 #gjournal load # kldstat Id Refs AddressSize Name 14 0x8010 ebb5c8 kernel 21

Re: Problems with linprocfs(5) and htop

2012-02-20 Thread jb
Florian Unglaub roladder.net> writes: > ... > htop relies on linprocfs(5) to gather process statistic. linprocfs is > mounted: > > linprocfs on /usr/compat/linux/proc (linprocfs, local) > ... $ cat /etc/fstab ... linproc /compat/linux/proclinprocfsrw0 0 jb _

Re: One or Four?

2012-02-20 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Jerry wrote: > So, the OP posted a question about normal and/or preferred use > of FreeBSD and people responded. Or do you consider this thread > to be too technical? Maybe the discussion could fit in Hackers. Yes, hackers@Would have been a better choice. sysinstall@ Perhaps yet

Hardware compatibility

2012-02-20 Thread Riccardo Garzelli
Dear Information service I was thinking of purchasing a new laptop and I wanted to go for FreeBSD OS. Unfortunately I'm no brainer in Unix so I'd like to find a PC that can run FreeBSD 9.0 out of the box. Could you either tell me which hardware are suitable or a link to a compatibility list? Thank

Re: newsyslog-local.conf

2012-02-20 Thread alexus
s# newsyslog -n -v Processing /etc/newsyslog.conf Found: /etc/newsyslog-local.conf Processing /etc/newsyslog-local.conf /var/log/all.log <7J>: does not exist, skipped. /var/log/amd.log <7J>: does not exist, skipped. /var/log/auth.log <7J>: size (Kb): 4 [100] --> skipping /var/log/console.log <5J>:

Re: newsyslog-local.conf

2012-02-20 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 20/02/2012 17:04, alexus wrote: > s# tail -1 /etc/newsyslog.conf > /etc/newsyslog-local.conf > s# cat /etc/newsyslog-local.conf > /var/log/squid/access.log squid:squid 640 7 *@T00 J > /var/run/squid/squid.pid > /var/log/squid/cache.log squid:squid 640 7 *@T00

Re: One or Four?

2012-02-20 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 05:14:35PM +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > I remember when & why the list was set up. > > > See src/ etc/motd > > > I don't see how this is so OT for a general questions list - regardless > > of verbiage about its charter. A general question was asked and > > many p

newsyslog-local.conf

2012-02-20 Thread alexus
s# tail -1 /etc/newsyslog.conf /etc/newsyslog-local.conf s# cat /etc/newsyslog-local.conf /var/log/squid/access.log squid:squid 640 7 *@T00 J /var/run/squid/squid.pid /var/log/squid/cache.logsquid:squid 640 7 *@T00 J s# ls -la /var/log/squid/ total 95672 d

Jumpstart on FreeBSD 9.0

2012-02-20 Thread egoitz
Hi all, I'm trying to upgrade my Jumpstart services for provisioning machines, but I'm founding that in FreeBSD 9.0 things are become slightly different than in previous releases. For example... tar -C ... -pxvf does not work with some files (althout you can mount iso and later do an rsync pr

RE: One or Four?

2012-02-20 Thread Devin Teske
> -Original Message- > From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jerry McAllister > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 1:34 PM > To: Damien Fleuriot > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: One or Four? > > On Sat, Feb

Re: One or Four?

2012-02-20 Thread Julian H. Stacey
> > I remember when & why the list was set up. > > See src/ etc/motd > > Wow, you must be old. Unless you are clueless, it's trivial to find when questions@ was created, & easy to find when motd pointed to questions, those dates are insufficient to predicate age. > I don't see how this is so OT

Re: How to prevent gam_server from running?

2012-02-20 Thread Herbert J. Skuhra
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012, at 03:44, Nikola Pavlović wrote: > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 04:57:38PM -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > > Lately, I've been hovering hither and thither when it comes to which > > desktop environment I choose when logging in, but several of them seem > > to insist on starting

Re: How to prevent gam_server from running?

2012-02-20 Thread Herbert J. Skuhra
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012, at 03:44, Nikola Pavlović wrote: > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 04:57:38PM -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > > Lately, I've been hovering hither and thither when it comes to which > > desktop environment I choose when logging in, but several of them seem > > to insist on starting

Re: How to prevent gam_server from running?

2012-02-20 Thread Herbert J. Skuhra
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012, at 03:44, Nikola Pavlović wrote: > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 04:57:38PM -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > > Lately, I've been hovering hither and thither when it comes to which > > desktop environment I choose when logging in, but several of them seem > > to insist on starting

Problems with linprocfs(5) and htop

2012-02-20 Thread Florian Unglaub
I compiled sysutils/htop from the ports collection and noticed that it does not display any process information as it's supposed to do. Instead I get a blank screen (see [0]). htop relies on linprocfs(5) to gather process statistic. linprocfs is mounted: linprocfs on /usr/compat/linux/proc (linpr

Re: One or Four?

2012-02-20 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 07:38:14PM +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Hi, > Reference: > > From: Daniel Staal > > Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:10:57 -0500 > > Message-id: > > Daniel Staal wrote: > > --As of February 19, 2012 3:30:15 PM +0100, Julian H. Stacey is allege

Re: One or Four?

2012-02-20 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 02:22:12AM -0500, Stephen Cook wrote: > On 2/18/2012 8:03 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote: > >On Sunday 19 February 2012 04:34:17 Jerry McAllister wrote: > >>I don't see that this plan adds any significant complication or confusion. > >>Nor does it prevent any of the schemes peo

Re: htpd going wild

2012-02-20 Thread Damien Fleuriot
On 2/20/12 3:30 PM, n dhert wrote: > FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE, all sucerity patches applied, all ports updated to the > latest version (every week) > > In the last 6 months I have experienced 3 or 4 times the httpd deamon > (apache-2 latest version) going 'wild', > that is: an ever increasing number

Re: One or Four?

2012-02-20 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 10:55:01AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > > Nor does it prevent any of the schemes people have been advocating or > > > > requesting. > > > > > > You seem to forget normal users who just want to use the system. > > > They do not think of recovery until it actually ha

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-20 Thread Da Rock
On 02/18/12 17:47, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Saturday 18 February 2012 13:05:49 Lars Eighner wrote: On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, Daniel Staal wrote: I've never seen anything listing the main reasons for having /home under /usr though. I figure there must be a decent reason why. Would anyone car

htpd going wild

2012-02-20 Thread n dhert
FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE, all sucerity patches applied, all ports updated to the latest version (every week) In the last 6 months I have experienced 3 or 4 times the httpd deamon (apache-2 latest version) going 'wild', that is: an ever increasing number of httpd processes is being launched. In a top (s

libxul-1.9.2.27

2012-02-20 Thread n dhert
During a ports upgrade, I had an upgrade from libxul also. this took quite a long time to build and used lots of CPU power and made response time slow ... just for curiosity, I checked # pkg_info | grep libxul libxul-1.9.2.27 Mozilla runtime package that can be used to bootstrap XUL+X # pkg_in

Re: Which mailinglist is appropriate for discussing uart changes?

2012-02-20 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Frank Shute wrote: > On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 07:10:30PM +0100, Terrence Koeman wrote: > > > > Could someone point me to the right mailinglist to discuss adding > > support for the MCS9904 chip to uart? I'm working on it, but I have > > some questions regarding FIFO sizes and how they are currently

add see also swapinfo to man df

2012-02-20 Thread Julian H. Stacey
>Submitter-Id: current-users >Originator:Julian H. Stacey >Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Linux Unix Consultancy, Munich/Muenchen. >Confidential: no >Synopsis: add see also swapinfo to man df >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Category: bin >Class:

fvwm-2.6.4 dumps core on 9.0-RELEASE

2012-02-20 Thread WATANABE Kazuhiro
Hi, all. I have updated my window manager (x11-wm/fvwm2) from 2.6.3 to 2.6.4. It compiled on 9.0-RELEASE/i386 with the default option settings. After the update, fvwm2 crashes randomly and dumps core. Does anyone have a similar problem? Here is the stack trace: capricorn:~ {1} gdb /usr/local/bi