Re: well, try here first...

2012-11-13 Thread Robert Bonomi
> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 05:48:48 +0100 > From: Polytropon > Subject: Re: well, try here first... > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:20:51 -0700, Chad Leigh Shire.Net LLC wrote: > > > > To be fair, a lot of the same rules exist for English. The comma > > is not optional or left to preferences in Englis

Re: portsnap

2012-11-13 Thread Elias Chrysocheris
Yeap. Same here: pluto# portsnap fetch update Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 6 mirrors found. Fetching snapshot tag from ec2-eu-west-1.portsnap.freebsd.org... done. Latest snapshot on server matches what we already have. No updates needed. Ports tree is already up to date. How can it

Re: well, try here first...

2012-11-13 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 22:27:37 -0700, Chad Leigh Shire.Net LLC wrote: > > On Nov 13, 2012, at 9:48 PM, Polytropon wrote: > > > That matches what I've learned in school, but it doesn't match > > realitiy anymore. :-) > > > > A famous thing is "comma in lists": Unlike German, where "and" > > substit

Re: well, try here first...

2012-11-13 Thread Chad Leigh Shire.Net LLC
On Nov 13, 2012, at 9:48 PM, Polytropon wrote: > That matches what I've learned in school, but it doesn't match > realitiy anymore. :-) > > A famous thing is "comma in lists": Unlike German, where "and" > substitutes a comma, in English it seems to be valid to put a > comma infront of "and": >

Re: well, try here first...

2012-11-13 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:20:51 -0700, Chad Leigh Shire.Net LLC wrote: > > On Nov 13, 2012, at 7:58 PM, Polytropon wrote: > > > > Ouch. > > > > Unlike in English, the comma in German is an important symbol > > in grammar. It brings structure to sentences. In English, there > > is the "word order" t

Re: well, try here first...

2012-11-13 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:09:08 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 02:35:43AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > > box. it's got a web interface and runs some flavor of firewall that > > > I never studied. yuk. > > > > I assume your "HW firewall" protects you to the outside. Of > >

Re: well, try here first...

2012-11-13 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 04:01:20AM +0100, Bernt Hansson wrote: > 2012-11-13 06:22, Gary Kline skrev: > > > > guys, > > > > hold your flame-throwers, because this is about how to get ssh working > > from an outside computer into my brand new "tao" that is running a > > flavor of linu

Re: well, try here first...

2012-11-13 Thread Chad Leigh Shire.Net LLC
On Nov 13, 2012, at 7:58 PM, Polytropon wrote: > > Ouch. > > Unlike in English, the comma in German is an important symbol > in grammar. It brings structure to sentences. In English, there > is the "word order" that achieves this goal, and a comma is > mostly optional or "left to preferences". I

Re: well, try here first...

2012-11-13 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 02:35:43AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > box. it's got a web interface and runs some flavor of firewall that > > I never studied. yuk. > > I assume your "HW firewall" protects you to the outside. Of > course it should allow SSH connections from the outside to >

Re: well, try here first...

2012-11-13 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 03:58:14AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 08:26:00 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:07:38 -0800 > > Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 04:47:48AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > > > Playboy alles wa

Re: well, try here first...

2012-11-13 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 08:26:00 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:07:38 -0800 > Gary Kline wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 04:47:48AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:00:07 -0800 > > > Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > > > On

Re: well, try here first...

2012-11-13 Thread Bernt Hansson
2012-11-13 06:22, Gary Kline skrev: guys, hold your flame-throwers, because this is about how to get ssh working from an outside computer into my brand new "tao" that is running a flavor of linux. I just got my quad i5 box to replace the old, broken tao.

Re: Advanced Format Drive ?

2012-11-13 Thread Warren Block
On Tue, 13 Nov 2012, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: OK. I think that I always was doing that anyway. But I want to be sure that I understand... If the size of the BSD partition is a multiple of, say, !MB, then the _alignment_ of that partition will likewise (auto- magically) be at least 1MB also?

Re: well, try here first...

2012-11-13 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 10:50:40 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 09:08:12AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 23:57:21 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 06:39:52AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > > > On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:22:00 -0800, Gary Kline wrot

Re: well, try here first...

2012-11-13 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:07:38 -0800 Gary Kline wrote: > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 04:47:48AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:00:07 -0800 > > Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 09:12:55AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > > > On Tue, 13 Nov 201

Re: Advanced Format Drive ?

2012-11-13 Thread David Brodbeck
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > >You can then easily use newfs with the -f parameter: > > > > newfs -U -f 4096 > > > >This will make sure the proper fragment size will be applied > >upon formatting the created partitions. > > OK. Thanks. I am guessing that th

Re: well, try here first...

2012-11-13 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 04:47:48AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:00:07 -0800 > Gary Kline wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 09:12:55AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 15:10:33 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > ja vohl

Resolved: Attempting to build a port uses a stale make(1) configuration

2012-11-13 Thread Австин Ким
Втр 13 Ноя 2012 04:10:46 от Австин Ким : > Hi, all, > > While attempting to build the KDE 4 port, the build of /usr/ports/astro/gpsd > (which recursively got pulled in somewhere) failed because make(1) tried to > build using a version of GCC that I had installed from ports at one time but > lon

Re: Advanced Format Drive ?

2012-11-13 Thread Robert Bonomi
> From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" > Subject: Re: Advanced Format Drive ? > Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 14:07:50 -0800 > > > And while we are on the subject... Has anybody ever down any analysis > (i.e. benchmarking) to find out if -f 4096 is even the best number for > a modern high(er) capacity drive? I'

Custom ISO mount script problem

2012-11-13 Thread dweimer
I have a server that I use to host ISO images, and mount them so they are available via network shares. I ran into a problem today, I temporarily made an ISO image accessible via a md device and mounted it under /mnt just to check the data on the ISO image. My ISO mount script ran its updated

Re: portsnap

2012-11-13 Thread Christer Solskogen
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Jason Garrett wrote: > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 6:13 PM, ajtiM wrote: > >> On Monday 12 November 2012 17:46:44 Aldis Berjoza wrote: >> > 13.11.2012, 01:27, "ajtiM" : >> > > Hi! >> > > >> > > Is it something wrong with portsnap server or is something wrong with >>

Re: portsnap

2012-11-13 Thread Jason Garrett
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 6:13 PM, ajtiM wrote: > On Monday 12 November 2012 17:46:44 Aldis Berjoza wrote: > > 13.11.2012, 01:27, "ajtiM" : > > > Hi! > > > > > > Is it something wrong with portsnap server or is something wrong with > my > > > system. When I run portsnap...: > > > portsnap fetch upd

Re: Advanced Format Drive ?

2012-11-13 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message <50a2002b.9040...@qeng-ho.org>, Arthur Chance wrote: >According to the manual as of 9.0-RELEASE the default fragment and block >sizes for newfs are 4k and 32k, so provided your partitions/slices are >4k aligned everything Should Just Work. Before 9.0 fragments and blocks >were 2k

Re: Advanced Format Drive ?

2012-11-13 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message <20121113073030.87bc0608.free...@edvax.de>, Polytropon wrote: >Note that 4k = 8 x 512 byte, and so 64 sectors would be a >good alignment "grid", while 63 sectors is not. That implies >that in case you use fdisk to create a slice holding your >partitions, try to make it start at secto

Re: well, try here first...

2012-11-13 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 09:08:12AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 23:57:21 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 06:39:52AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > > On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:22:00 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > Anyway, linux is > > > > installed; the bo

Re: well, try here first...

2012-11-13 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:00:07 -0800 Gary Kline wrote: > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 09:12:55AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 15:10:33 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 23:57:21 -0800 > > > Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 13,

Re: well, try here first...

2012-11-13 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 09:12:55AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 15:10:33 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 23:57:21 -0800 > > Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 06:39:52AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > > > On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:2

Re: well, try here first...

2012-11-13 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 03:10:33PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 23:57:21 -0800 > Gary Kline wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 06:39:52AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > > On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:22:00 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > Anyway, linux is > > > >

Re: high performance server design approach

2012-11-13 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Friedrich" == Friedrich Locke writes: Friedrich> The http server is just an excuse, ok? Happy now? So why lie to us, then? Not very nice to lie to people from whom you want help and answers and advice... FOR FREE. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 77

Re: well, try here first...

2012-11-13 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 09:08:12AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 23:57:21 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 06:39:52AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > > On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:22:00 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > Anyway, linux is > > > > installed; the bo

Re: high performance server design approach

2012-11-13 Thread Friedrich Locke
I am really sorry i offend you! It was not my wish! On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > "Friedrich" == Friedrich Locke writes: > > Friedrich> The http server is just an excuse, ok? Happy now? > > So why lie to us, then? Not very nice to lie to people from whom you

Re: high performance server design approach

2012-11-13 Thread Friedrich Locke
Jesus Christ! The http server is just an excuse, ok? Happy now? I just need to know, for a tcp server which of those apporaches could deliver best results! That's really the question was all about ! On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > "Friedrich" == Friedrich Lock

Re: high performance server design approach

2012-11-13 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Friedrich" == Friedrich Locke writes: Friedrich> I am aware og ngnix, but i have to write my own http Friedrich> server. Using someone else solution is not an option. As this is a very unusual requirement (given that nginx is available under the most free license available), I think you o

Re: Issues with smartd starting up at boot time - delays sever start?

2012-11-13 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Nov 13), Karl Pielorz said: > I've noticed on our systems (9.0-Stable, amd64) that starting smartd at > boot time massively extends the startup time of the box. > > I think I've traced this down to smartd, and our use of the '-M test' > config option (which sends a test messag

problem with pkgng

2012-11-13 Thread Walter Hurry
I am attempting to migrate a test box to pkgng, and have run into difficulty: When I run the pkg2ng script, it fails to register postgreql-jdbc because one if its files, namely /usr/local/share/doc/postgresql/README-client, is also installed by postgresql-client-9.2.1. In this, pkgng is perfec

Re: BIOS update saga - the end

2012-11-13 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
From lenzi.ser...@gmail.com Tue Nov 13 16:17:49 2012 That is one of the reasons I stop buying HP products specially laptops.. and sony vaio as well.. the last one I have is a z6000 that is still working very well with FreeBSD10. HP notebooks are "c

Re: BIOS update saga - the end

2012-11-13 Thread Sergio de Almeida Lenzi
That is one of the reasons I stop buying HP products specially laptops.. and sony vaio as well.. the last one I have is a z6000 that is still working very well with FreeBSD10. HP notebooks are "closed" works only with windows, are expensive consumes too much power, the bateries did not last...

Re: Some thoughts about upgrading from 8.3 to 9.1

2012-11-13 Thread Arthur Chance
On 11/13/12 14:21, Arthur Chance wrote: Oops, sent this off too quickly. I wrote that. It's only relevant if you have recent disks with 4k hardware blocks. If you have, you ought to use 4k/16k filesystems whatever your OS rev. That should be 4k/32k. As "man newfs" says: The optimal block:fra

Re: Advanced Format Drive ?

2012-11-13 Thread Warren Block
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: In message <20121113065602.ee2310d7.free...@edvax.de>, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:47:40 -0800, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: Is there _anything_ that I will have to do differently than I did for the last 20 drives I've used with Fre

Re: Some thoughts about upgrading from 8.3 to 9.1

2012-11-13 Thread Arthur Chance
On 11/13/12 13:00, Leslie Jensen wrote: I just read in another post about disklayout _ According to the manual as of 9.0-RELEASE the default fragment and block sizes for newfs are 4k and 32k, so provided your partitions/slices are 4k al

Re: Moused error in 9.1-RC3

2012-11-13 Thread Peter Vereshagin
Hello. 2012/11/13 14:55:21 +0100 Leslie Jensen => To FreeBSD Questions : LJ> I've just installed 9.1-RC3 on a machine. LJ> When starting I get the error: LJ> Starting default moused LJ> moused: unable to open /dev/psm0: No such file or directory LJ> I have moused_enable="YES" in rc.conf LJ> Do I

Re: Some thoughts about upgrading from 8.3 to 9.1

2012-11-13 Thread Fbsd8
Leslie Jensen wrote: I just read in another post about disklayout _ According to the manual as of 9.0-RELEASE the default fragment and block sizes for newfs are 4k and 32k, so provided your partitions/slices are 4k aligned everything S

Moused error in 9.1-RC3

2012-11-13 Thread Leslie Jensen
I've just installed 9.1-RC3 on a machine. When starting I get the error: Starting default moused moused: unable to open /dev/psm0: No such file or directory I have moused_enable="YES" in rc.conf Do I need to set some right in devfs for it to go away? Thanks /Leslie

Re: Some thoughts about upgrading from 8.3 to 9.1

2012-11-13 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 14:00:15 +0100 Leslie Jensen wrote: > > I just read in another post about disklayout > _ > According to the manual as of 9.0-RELEASE the default fragment > and block sizes for newfs are 4k and 32k, so provided y

Some thoughts about upgrading from 8.3 to 9.1

2012-11-13 Thread Leslie Jensen
I just read in another post about disklayout _ According to the manual as of 9.0-RELEASE the default fragment and block sizes for newfs are 4k and 32k, so provided your partitions/slices are 4k aligned everything Should Just Work. Befo

Re: Old file reappeared by itself

2012-11-13 Thread Artem Kuchin
12.11.2012 14:07, Artem Kuchin: The machines runs 4 jails. Everything is in the jails except NAMED. Named is run on the root host (if i may say so) itself. There is a zone file there which i changed last week. Today in the morning i try to open a site and host name is not found. It worked on fr

Re: high performance server design approach

2012-11-13 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 3:08 AM, Mark Blackman wrote: > > On 13 Nov 2012, at 11:03, Friedrich Locke > wrote: > > > Mark, > > > > when i say high performance, i am looking something at least as fast as > the fastest performing http server on the market for a given set of > requests on the same po

Re: high performance server design approach

2012-11-13 Thread Damien Fleuriot
That's a shame, nginx is definitely a robust and fast server, it's well maintained, it's patched quickly... If you need proof of its prowess to convince your upstream managers, I'd be inclined to provide you with a diagram of our architecture for this particular project, as well as the graphs (net

Re: high performance server design approach

2012-11-13 Thread Mark Blackman
On 13 Nov 2012, at 11:03, Friedrich Locke wrote: > Mark, > > when i say high performance, i am looking something at least as fast as the > fastest performing http server on the market for a given set of requests on > the same pool of static files. > > I am aware og ngnix, but i have to write

Re: high performance server design approach

2012-11-13 Thread Friedrich Locke
Mark, when i say high performance, i am looking something at least as fast as the fastest performing http server on the market for a given set of requests on the same pool of static files. I am aware og ngnix, but i have to write my own http server. Using someone else solution is not an option.

Re: high performance server design approach

2012-11-13 Thread Fleuriot Damien
Define "high performance" , what are your expectations in terms of concurrent connections, requests/second and all ? Allow me to shed some measure of light here, we're running 16x web servers with nginx doing *permanent* (as in, for all requests) URL rewriting and serving 500 req/s each. The

Issues with smartd starting up at boot time - delays sever start?

2012-11-13 Thread Karl Pielorz
Hi, I've noticed on our systems (9.0-Stable, amd64) that starting smartd at boot time massively extends the startup time of the box. I think I've traced this down to smartd, and our use of the '-M test' config option (which sends a test message, apparently forking to 'mail' - and, as the co

Re: high performance server design approach

2012-11-13 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 08:23:38 -0200 Friedrich Locke wrote: > 0) To have a single process "accepting" incoming connection on port > 80 and send the new socket fd to one of the http server in a > round-roubin manner, or if you have N cores, create N - X processes or threads for handling the re

Re: high performance server design approach

2012-11-13 Thread Mark Blackman
On 13 Nov 2012, at 10:23, Friedrich Locke wrote: > Hi list members, > > i would like to be an http server for static content only. Due to this [snip] > > > What you have to say benchmark nginx to see if it does the job already. - Mark ___ freebs

Re: high performance server design approach

2012-11-13 Thread Mark Blackman
On 13 Nov 2012, at 10:28, Friedrich Locke wrote: > Thank you Mark for suggestion, but my doubt still remains. perhaps some benchmarking/testing will help clear up the doubt? - Mark ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.

Re: high performance server design approach

2012-11-13 Thread Friedrich Locke
Thank you Mark for suggestion, but my doubt still remains. Regards. On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Mark Blackman wrote: > On 13 Nov 2012, at 10:23, Friedrich Locke > wrote: > > > Hi list members, > > > > i would like to be an http server for static content only. Due to this > > [snip] > > >

Re: well, try here first...

2012-11-13 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 15:10:33 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 23:57:21 -0800 > Gary Kline wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 06:39:52AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > > On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:22:00 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > Anyway, linux is > > > > inst

Re: well, try here first...

2012-11-13 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 23:57:21 -0800 Gary Kline wrote: > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 06:39:52AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:22:00 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > > Anyway, linux is > > > installed; the box is on my internal IP net. I can ssh > > > *out*. to my server, vut

Re: Advanced Format Drive ?

2012-11-13 Thread Arthur Chance
On 11/13/12 06:30, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 22:14:11 -0800, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: Which "partitions" need to be aligned to the 4KB boundaries? The FreeBSD ones, the MBR ones, or both? The partitions, all of them. :-) For MBR partitions, the "DOS primary partitions", which ar

Re: well, try here first...

2012-11-13 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 23:57:21 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 06:39:52AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:22:00 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > > Anyway, linux is > > > installed; the box is on my internal IP net. I can ssh *out*. to my > > > server, vut from

Re: well, try here first...

2012-11-13 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 06:39:52AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:22:00 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > Anyway, linux is > > installed; the box is on my internal IP net. I can ssh *out*. to my > > server, vut from my server or wherever, I cant ssh back in. > > > > doi