Re: /boot is full after running "make installkernel" on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-06 Thread RW
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 16:28:29 +0100 Arthur Chance wrote: > I suspect whoever you were talking to probably has more of a clue > than I do. As a quick data point, I just ran "portsnap fetch update" > while another process did a "df /var; sleep 1" loop and /var > increased by about 30MB at its peak.

Re: /boot is full after running "make installkernel" on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-02 Thread Arthur Chance
On 07/02/10 15:38, Bruce Cran wrote: On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 15:04:10 +0100 Arthur Chance wrote: As a matter of idle curiosity with a bit of education thrown in, why 4GB for /var? The last time I installed a new machine I made / 1GB as I'd found out from a previous install that 512MB wasn't really

Re: /boot is full after running "make installkernel" on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-02 Thread Bruce Cran
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 15:04:10 +0100 Arthur Chance wrote: > As a matter of idle curiosity with a bit of education thrown in, why > 4GB for /var? The last time I installed a new machine I made / 1GB as > I'd found out from a previous install that 512MB wasn't really > enough, and then decided to mak

Re: /boot is full after running "make installkernel" on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-02 Thread Robert Huff
Arthur Chance writes: > As a matter of idle curiosity with a bit of education thrown in, > why 4GB for /var? The last time I installed a new machine I made > / 1GB as I'd found out from a previous install that 512MB wasn't > really enough, and then decided to make /var bigger than the > Handb

Re: /boot is full after running "make installkernel" on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-02 Thread Arthur Chance
On 07/02/10 13:13, Bruce Cran wrote: I have a task on my TODO list to increase the sizes of the partitions in sysinstall: for example / goes to 1GB, /var to 4GB. I hope to commit the code in the next couple of weeks. As a matter of idle curiosity with a bit of education thrown in, why 4GB for

Re: /boot is full after running "make installkernel" on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-02 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 02:29:54PM -0700, Ed Flecko wrote: > Henrik, > When I FIRST installed 8.0, I did create a separate /home partition. > When I installed the kernel and starting running out of space in / , I > thought "O.K...I'll let FreeBSD make the partition sizes IT wants to > and see if I

Re: /boot is full after running "make installkernel" on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-02 Thread Bruce Cran
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 08:33:45 +0100 Matthew Seaman wrote: > Is it time for me to start advocating "one big partition" again? > > This may not be the consensus view, but I have found that for a quiet > life and general lack of botheration it helps to create *only two* > partitions on your hard dri

Re: /boot is full after running "make installkernel" on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-02 Thread Robert Huff
krad writes: > all i can say is your a brave boy 8) A 1 TB+ / slice would take > ages to fsck. For "ages" being less than ten (fifteen ?) minutes on a modern system with reasonable memory ... ... which should be necessary very rarely. Even on my test system, time between involu

Re: /boot is full after running "make installkernel" on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-02 Thread krad
On 2 July 2010 08:33, Matthew Seaman wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 01/07/2010 22:29:54, Ed Flecko wrote: > > Henrik, > > When I FIRST installed 8.0, I did create a separate /home partition. > > When I installed the kernel and starting running out of space in / , I

Re: /boot is full after running "make installkernel" on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-02 Thread Svein Skogen (Listmail Account)
On 02.07.2010 09:33, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 01/07/2010 22:29:54, Ed Flecko wrote: >> Henrik, >> When I FIRST installed 8.0, I did create a separate /home partition. >> When I installed the kernel and starting running out of space in / , I >> thought "O.K...I'll let FreeBSD make the partition si

Re: /boot is full after running "make installkernel" on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-02 Thread Matthew Seaman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/07/2010 22:29:54, Ed Flecko wrote: > Henrik, > When I FIRST installed 8.0, I did create a separate /home partition. > When I installed the kernel and starting running out of space in / , I > thought "O.K...I'll let FreeBSD make the partition size

Re: /boot is full after running "make installkernel" on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Chip Camden
On Jul 01 12:29, Chip Camden wrote: > On Jul 01 12:07, Ed Flecko wrote: > > Thanks guys. > > > > :-) > > > > Doesn't that seem odd that the "default" partition size for root > > (512M) isn't quite big enough? > > > > Should I make the partition size slightly larger (on future installs) > > to el

Re: /boot is full after running "make installkernel" on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Robert Huff
Henrik Hudson writes: > > Or just make one large partition. Not on a server, but I don't > > see much reason for using multiple partitions on a laptop. > > Multiple partitions still isn't a bad idea if you ever have to > fsck and even on a desktop / laptop I usually mount /tmp as > noexe

Re: /boot is full after running "make installkernel" on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Ed Flecko
Henrik, When I FIRST installed 8.0, I did create a separate /home partition. When I installed the kernel and starting running out of space in / , I thought "O.K...I'll let FreeBSD make the partition sizes IT wants to and see if I have the same problem, and I did. Apparently, 512M is just, not, qui

Re: /boot is full after running "make installkernel" on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 12:07:50PM -0700, Ed Flecko wrote: > Thanks guys. > > :-) > > Doesn't that seem odd that the "default" partition size for root > (512M) isn't quite big enough? > > Should I make the partition size slightly larger (on future installs) > to eliminate this problem? Many pe

Re: /boot is full after running "make installkernel" on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 11:24:46AM -0700, Ed Flecko wrote: > Hi folks, > I'm running FreeBSD 8.0, and I'm trying to simple stay current with > all security patches. It's a clean install of FreeBSD 8.0 on a 50G > drive, and I let sysinstall select the default partition configuration > when I did th

Re: /boot is full after running "make installkernel" on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Henrik Hudson
On Thu, 01 Jul 2010, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Chip Camden writes: > > > On Jul 01 12:07, Ed Flecko wrote: > >> Thanks guys. > >> > >> :-) > >> > >> Doesn't that seem odd that the "default" partition size for root > >> (512M) isn't quite big enough? > >> > >> Should I make the partition size sl

Re: /boot is full after running "make installkernel" on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread krad
On 1 July 2010 21:12, Ed Flecko wrote: > Since it would be smart to have at least one known, good kernel, why > not make the / partition maybe 1G? > > I know the smaller the / partition, the better the performance (since > it's the first partition of the drive), but I can't imagine a slightly > l

Re: /boot is full after running "make installkernel" on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Ed Flecko
Since it would be smart to have at least one known, good kernel, why not make the / partition maybe 1G? I know the smaller the / partition, the better the performance (since it's the first partition of the drive), but I can't imagine a slightly larger / partition would impact performance that much

Re: /boot is full after running "make installkernel" on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Anders Andersson
> > A healthy fear, indeed. > > For one thing, I'd certainly rather have someone > do "rm /boot/kernel.old/*.ko" than "rm -r /boot/kernel.old". > > Being even more selective is an obvious extension... > Why not move the old "useless" kernel to another drive. Sure if the system kernel fails and you

Re: /boot is full after running "make installkernel" on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Chip Camden writes: > On Jul 01 12:07, Ed Flecko wrote: >> Thanks guys. >> >> :-) >> >> Doesn't that seem odd that the "default" partition size for root >> (512M) isn't quite big enough? >> >> Should I make the partition size slightly larger (on future installs) >> to eliminate this problem? >

Re: /boot is full after running "make installkernel" on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Chip Camden writes: > On Jul 01 15:10, Lowell Gilbert wrote: >> Chip Camden writes: >> >> > I've experienced the same thing on amd64 -- the default partition size >> > for root is too small. Rather than going to the trouble of correcting >> > it, I just 'rm -r /boot/kernel.old' when it fails a

Re: /boot is full after running "make installkernel" on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Chip Camden
On Jul 01 12:07, Ed Flecko wrote: > Thanks guys. > > :-) > > Doesn't that seem odd that the "default" partition size for root > (512M) isn't quite big enough? > > Should I make the partition size slightly larger (on future installs) > to eliminate this problem? > > Ed >

Re: /boot is full after running "make installkernel" on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Chip Camden
On Jul 01 15:10, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Chip Camden writes: > > > I've experienced the same thing on amd64 -- the default partition size > > for root is too small. Rather than going to the trouble of correcting > > it, I just 'rm -r /boot/kernel.old' when it fails and then redo 'make > > instal

Re: /boot is full after running "make installkernel" on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread James Bailie
Try rm -r /boot/kernel.old I bet that's the problem. -- James Bailie http://www.mammothcheese.ca -Original Message- From: Ed Flecko Sender: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 11:24:46 To: Subject: /boot is full after running "make installkernel"

Re: /boot is full after running "make installkernel" on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Ed Flecko
Chip, That sounds like a smart thing to do; can you tell me more about how to do that (or point me to a www resource; I'm happy to read more about that). :-) Ed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/fre

Re: /boot is full after running "make installkernel" on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Chip Camden writes: > I've experienced the same thing on amd64 -- the default partition size > for root is too small. Rather than going to the trouble of correcting > it, I just 'rm -r /boot/kernel.old' when it fails and then redo 'make > installkernel', and all seems OK. That's a little danger

Re: /boot is full after running "make installkernel" on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Ed Flecko
Thanks guys. :-) Doesn't that seem odd that the "default" partition size for root (512M) isn't quite big enough? Should I make the partition size slightly larger (on future installs) to eliminate this problem? Ed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mail

Re: /boot is full after running "make installkernel" on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Chip Camden
On Jul 01 11:24, Ed Flecko wrote: > Hi folks, > I'm running FreeBSD 8.0, and I'm trying to simple stay current with > all security patches. It's a clean install of FreeBSD 8.0 on a 50G > drive, and I let sysinstall select the default partition configuration > when I did the install. > > I've taken

/boot is full after running "make installkernel" on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-07-01 Thread Ed Flecko
Hi folks, I'm running FreeBSD 8.0, and I'm trying to simple stay current with all security patches. It's a clean install of FreeBSD 8.0 on a 50G drive, and I let sysinstall select the default partition configuration when I did the install. I've taken the following steps: # csup -4 /etc/stable-su