isn't all that hard but for some reason the printer manufacturers ship these
machines with very low RAM.
the reason is to force you then buy high-priced RAMs for them.
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To: Ted Mittelstaedt
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Ted Mittelstaedt
Did you know that Ghostscript is used as the Postscript engine
in a number of printers?
very possible as it's one of the best renderer available - for free.
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On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 11:01:09 +0200 (CEST)
Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
isn't all that hard but for some reason the printer manufacturers
ship these machines with very low RAM.
the reason is to force you then buy high-priced RAMs for them.
The market for printers is a very
On Jun 4, 2008, at 4:46 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
What part of:
...there was no case i found postscript to print faster...You won't
on an
HP printer, at least not an older one...
is not understandable?
Let me repeat - on most HP printers PostScript IS SLOWER BECAUSE
HP DESIGNED IT THAT
On Jun 4, 2008, at 4:54 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
Did you know that Ghostscript is used as the Postscript engine
in a number of printers?
very possible as it's one of the best renderer available - for free.
There was a PBS computer show interviewing historically important
people.
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On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 11:01:09 +0200 (CEST)
Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
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On Jun 4, 2008, at 4:46 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
What part
This depends a lot on your print jobs. Low quality machine-generated
PostScript output can be slow. PCL can also be slow. The only way to really
know is to benchmark with your print jobs.
there was no case i found postscript to print faster.
There's also the potential overhead of the print
The only time inkjet makes sense is if your printing needs for your
lifetime consist of a single ream of paper.
Or if you want photo quality.
then i give my images to the fotograph shop on CD/DVD and got it on photo
paper and quality.
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We have one at work that if it was up to me I too would sell it for $50
if anyone offered. Its
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At the same time, HP's patents
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This depends a lot on your print jobs. Low quality machine-generated
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my HP LaserJet 4 shows 122000 pages
You won't on an HP printer, at least not an older one. Remember
that HP had to pay a very hefty fee to Adobe for licensing
PostScript for each printer. HP did everything possible to push
PCL and discourage customers from selecting PS because they
did not want to continue to have to pay Adobe.
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You won't on an HP printer, at least not an older one. Remember
that HP had
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Agree 100.0%, Ted. Long run, the inkjet will bleed you like a leech.
My 1991 [?] DeskJet 500 was $400, major bux. But having bought at
least
two cadtrides/year until last winter. Lowball it: $20 per cartridge.
Well over a
On Tue, 3 Jun 2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
This depends a lot on your print jobs. Low quality machine-generated
PostScript output can be slow. PCL can also be slow. The only way to
really know is to benchmark with your print jobs.
there was no case i found postscript to print faster.
On Jun 2, 2008, at 5:31 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
Color laser is what you want. There are some really
good inexpensive units out there. I recall reading the
inexpensieve Samsung color laser even speaks Postscript.
while i don't use color printers, usually this postscript is
Christopher Sean Hilton writes:
... but for some reason the printer manufacturers ship these
machines with very low RAM.
Because the average consumer only looks at the shelf price.
Most can't even explain why more memory is important,
(I have a LaserJet 6MP - came with 3m,
In response to Kurt Buff [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I'm looking to replace my current printer - a Dell 1700n - because I
can't make it work with FreeBSD/Linux.
I think you're doing it wrong. I have a 1700 series Dell printer and it
works just fine with FreeBSD. Did you install CUPS and the ppd
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 6:38 AM, Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In response to Kurt Buff [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I'm looking to replace my current printer - a Dell 1700n - because I
can't make it work with FreeBSD/Linux.
I think you're doing it wrong. I have a 1700 series Dell printer and it
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Color laser is what you want. There are some really
good inexpensive units out there. I recall reading the
inexpensieve Samsung color laser even speaks Postscript.
while i don't use color printers, usually this postscript is disadventage.
if there is a choice like in HP laserjets - switching
On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 02:03:30PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
Inkjet color printing is NEVER cheaper.
Color laser is what you want. There are some really good inexpensive
units out there. I recall reading the inexpensieve Samsung color
laser even speaks Postscript.
The only time inkjet
On Mon, 2 Jun 2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
Color laser is what you want. There are some really
good inexpensive units out there. I recall reading the
inexpensieve Samsung color laser even speaks Postscript.
while i don't use color printers, usually this postscript is disadventage. if
there
At 04:12 PM 5/31/2008, Kurt Buff wrote:
All,
I'm looking to replace my current printer - a Dell 1700n - because I
can't make it work with FreeBSD/Linux.
To replace it, I'd like to get a duplex printer, as I really hate to
waste paper. Does anyone have good experience with one that isn't
Kurt Buff wrote:
I'm looking to replace my current printer - a Dell 1700n - because I
can't make it work with FreeBSD/Linux.
So tell us, what is the problem?
-- Jos
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On May 31, 2008, at 6:34 PM, Derek Ragona wrote:
At 04:12 PM 5/31/2008, Kurt Buff wrote:
All,
I'm looking to replace my current printer - a Dell 1700n - because I
can't make it work with FreeBSD/Linux.
To replace it, I'd like to get a duplex printer, as I really hate to
waste paper. Does
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 11:26 AM, David Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On May 31, 2008, at 6:34 PM, Derek Ragona wrote:
At 04:12 PM 5/31/2008, Kurt Buff wrote:
All,
I'm looking to replace my current printer - a Dell 1700n - because I
can't make it work with FreeBSD/Linux.
To replace it,
On Sun, 2008-06-01 at 13:26 -0500, David Kelly wrote:
On May 31, 2008, at 6:34 PM, Derek Ragona wrote:
At 04:12 PM 5/31/2008, Kurt Buff wrote:
All,
I'm looking to replace my current printer - a Dell 1700n - because I
can't make it work with FreeBSD/Linux.
To replace it, I'd like
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I second this suggestion since my Brother HL-5250DN just-worked once
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Subject: Re: Duplex printer
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 11:26 AM, David Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On May 31, 2008, at 6:34 PM, Derek Ragona wrote:
At 04:12 PM 5/31/2008, Kurt Buff wrote:
All,
I'm looking to replace my current printer - a Dell 1700n - because I
can't make it work with FreeBSD/Linux.
To replace it,
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On Jun 1, 2008, at 5:23 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
Just one warning about these.
The toner empty light blinks use the same pattern as the
fuser fail. And, unlike the HP units, you usually can't
shake down the cartridge to get an extra hundred or
so pages out of it. Don't jump to
On Jun 1, 2008, at 5:49 PM, Kurt Buff wrote:
As a matter of not going mad - what driver are you using for this
printer?
Search the list archives, Gary Kline is the latest to have worked out
those specific details. I usually use apsfilter but haven't
reinstalled it since the wipe and
my own requirements list includes (color duplex printer scanner).
I don't need it to be a laser, but I do need both color, multifunc,
and duplex printing ... I begin to wonder if I could find one with
the same specs ESCEPTING it was the cheaper technology of inkjet.
... please don't spend
All,
I'm looking to replace my current printer - a Dell 1700n - because I
can't make it work with FreeBSD/Linux.
To replace it, I'd like to get a duplex printer, as I really hate to
waste paper. Does anyone have good experience with one that isn't
terribly expensive (expensive to me means more
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