On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 03:56:39PM -0500, David Jackson wrote:
And that's just the way it is now. Try replicating the wealth of
information you get in various config files in FreeBSD in a GUI. Just
how hard it is to open a simple text file in an editor and just fracking
do what it tells
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote:
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Da Rock
freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote:
On 01/03/12 12:06, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote:
On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 12:33:20PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
Ubuntu,
And that's just the way it is now. Try replicating the wealth of
information you get in various config files in FreeBSD in a GUI. Just
how hard it is to open a simple text file in an editor and just fracking
do what it tells you to in comments?! And it's not just the base
system, any
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:37 PM, David Jackson djackson...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote:
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Da Rock
freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote:
On 01/03/12 12:06, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote:
C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws, 2012-01-01 20:30 (+0100):
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 7:41 PM, doug d...@fledge.watson.org wrote:
That said, FreeBSD has a giant disadvantage in the desktop world. In trying
to find if there will be any sort for my current laptop I came across a
comment from Robert
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 09:55:04PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 02:07:36PM -0800, Chip Camden wrote:
Quoth Chad Perrin on Tuesday, 03 January 2012:
So . . . please start with the denotative meanings of words, consider
your audience, and use words accordingly. If
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 12:33:28PM +0100, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote:
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 09:55:04PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 02:07:36PM -0800, Chip Camden wrote:
Quoth Chad Perrin on Tuesday, 03 January 2012:
So . . . please start with the
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 06:17:55AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 18:16:30 -0600 (CST) Robert Bonomi articulated:
He did *NOT* ask the prior poster to explain why it _would_be_
morally correct...HE demanded that they explain why it *IS*
morally correct...
quote
Would you
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 08:50:45AM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 12:33:28PM +0100, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote:
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 09:55:04PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 02:07:36PM -0800, Chip Camden wrote:
Quoth Chad Perrin on Tuesday,
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Walter Alejandro Iglesias
roque...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 08:50:45AM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 12:33:28PM +0100, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote:
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 09:55:04PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Tue,
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 09:00:12 -0700
Chad Perrin articulated:
You just ignored the salient point of what Robert Bonomi said, in
favor of trivialities. If you prefer, pretend he said:
HE asked that they explain why it *IS* morally correct...
The point he was making is no less present and
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 06:02:23PM +0100, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote:
Confuse and annoy people? Oh boy, confuse and annoy mature
people is not so easy. Flame wars? I am not an adolescent, I
have real problems in my life. Don't be stupid.
On that ironic note, I will cease trying to
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 12:34:52PM -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 09:00:12 -0700 Chad Perrin articulated:
You just ignored the salient point of what Robert Bonomi said, in
favor of trivialities. If you prefer, pretend he said:
HE asked that they explain why it *IS* morally
Mainly to Jerry and Chad, but anyone contributing to the flame and OT fest,
How I feel whenever I see people argue on the internet
http://i.imgur.com/biopQ.gif
--
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On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 06:17:55AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 18:16:30 -0600 (CST) Robert Bonomi articulated:
He did *NOT* ask the prior poster to explain why it _would_be_
morally correct...HE demanded that they explain why it *IS*
morally correct...
quote
Would you
Lyubomir Grigorov wrote:
Mainly to Jerry and Chad, but anyone contributing to the flame and OT fest,
How I feel whenever I see people argue on the internet
http://i.imgur.com/biopQ.gif
--
Lyubomir Grigorov (bgalakazam)
___
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 12:47:52PM -0800, Lyubomir Grigorov wrote:
Mainly to Jerry and Chad, but anyone contributing to the flame and OT fest,
Note that there are more than one persons using the name Jerry.
Where I might dip in to an argument a bit, especially if I see
humor in it, I never
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 13:13:55 -0700
Chad Perrin articulated:
Serious Chad, I could not care less what you think.
Why the heck did you ask for it, then?
Fair enough, because in your post dated: On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 23:55:26
-0700, you make this remark: I think the statement was more like
Someone
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 04:16:15PM -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 13:13:55 -0700 Chad Perrin articulated:
Why the heck did you ask for it, then?
Fair enough, because in your post dated: On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 23:55:26
-0700, you make this remark: I think the statement was more like
On Wednesday 04 January 2012 17:47:52 Lyubomir Grigorov wrote:
Mainly to Jerry and Chad, but anyone contributing to the flame and OT fest,
How I feel whenever I see people argue on the internet
http://i.imgur.com/biopQ.gif
--
Lyubomir Grigorov (bgalakazam)
Yes! humor.
I think open-sore
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Wed Jan 4 11:39:20 2012
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 12:34:52 -0500
From: Jerry je...@seibercom.net
To: FreeBSD freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 09:00:12 -0700
Chad Perrin articulated
Am 04.01.2012, 23:00 Uhr, schrieb Mario Lobo l...@bsd.com.br:
On Wednesday 04 January 2012 17:47:52 Lyubomir Grigorov wrote:
Mainly to Jerry and Chad, but anyone contributing to the flame and OT
fest,
How I feel whenever I see people argue on the internet
http://i.imgur.com/biopQ.gif
--
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 14:47:44 -0700
Chad Perrin articulated:
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 04:16:15PM -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 13:13:55 -0700 Chad Perrin articulated:
Why the heck did you ask for it, then?
Fair enough, because in your post dated: On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 23:55:26
On 01/05/12 06:47, Lyubomir Grigorov wrote:
Mainly to Jerry and Chad, but anyone contributing to the flame and OT fest,
How I feel whenever I see people argue on the internet
http://i.imgur.com/biopQ.gif
LOL
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On 01/05/12 08:25, Michael Ross wrote:
Am 04.01.2012, 23:00 Uhr, schrieb Mario Lobo l...@bsd.com.br:
On Wednesday 04 January 2012 17:47:52 Lyubomir Grigorov wrote:
Mainly to Jerry and Chad, but anyone contributing to the flame and
OT fest,
How I feel whenever I see people argue on the
On 01/05/12 08:39, Jerry wrote:
I have noticed that somehow you have managed to piss off at least two
other posters in the past 48 hours. In every case, you claim to have
been basically misunderstood. I wonder, could a pattern be emerging?
And you, Jerry, have successfully managed to piss off a
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 04:41:10PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
New users are nearly always dismayed at the apparent difficulty of
things, and should be warned that they will need to do some work under
the hood in order to get what they want. The honesty can start
immediately, it doesn't
On 01/03/12 22:12, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote:
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 04:41:10PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
New users are nearly always dismayed at the apparent difficulty of
things, and should be warned that they will need to do some work under
the hood in order to get what they want. The
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Da Rock
freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote:
On 01/03/12 12:06, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote:
On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 12:33:20PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
Ubuntu, actually, has thrown out the baby with the bathwater. In its
zeal to make
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 08:46:54 -0600, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote:
I would just like to add that is FreeBSD was so crappy open sour
software, why does it run half the Internet?
This must be a mistake. I was just assured this weekend that FreeBSD is a
niche OS.
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 09:01:47AM -0600, Mark Felder wrote:
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 08:46:54 -0600, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote:
I would just like to add that is FreeBSD was so crappy open sour
software, why does it run half the Internet?
This must be a mistake. I was just assured
On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 09:01:47 -0600, Mark Felder wrote:
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 08:46:54 -0600, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote:
I would just like to add that is FreeBSD was so crappy open sour
software, why does it run half the Internet?
This must be a mistake. I was just assured this
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 09:01:47 -0600, Mark Felder wrote:
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 08:46:54 -0600, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote:
I would just like to add that is FreeBSD was so crappy open sour
software, why does it run half
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 09:14:52 -0600, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
Maybe consider the chance that a FreeBSD OS can be
turned into closed source (which the license explicitely
allows) and put into some embedded device, a router,
a DSL modem, a managed switch... In parts like this,
you won't
Polytropon wrote:
Maybe consider the chance that a FreeBSD OS can be
turned into closed source (which the license explicitely
allows) and put into some embedded device, a router,
a DSL modem, a managed switch... In parts like this,
you won't recognize FreeBSD anymore. If you consider
such
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 03:06:11AM +0100, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote:
On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 12:33:20PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
Ubuntu, actually, has thrown out the baby with the bathwater. In its
zeal to make things just work in a particular manner, it seems
hell-bent on ignoring
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 01:12:11PM +0100, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote:
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 04:41:10PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
New users are nearly always dismayed at the apparent difficulty of
things, and should be warned that they will need to do some work under
the hood in order
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 11:14:01AM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 01:12:11PM +0100, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote:
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 04:41:10PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
New users are nearly always dismayed at the apparent difficulty of
things, and should be warned
Quoth Chad Perrin on Tuesday, 03 January 2012:
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 01:12:11PM +0100, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote:
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 04:41:10PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
New users are nearly always dismayed at the apparent difficulty of
things, and should be warned that they
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 12:33:20 -0700
Chad Perrin articulated:
Now you have really peaked my interest. On any given day, on a
Windows based forum, the terms: FreePiss, open-sore, Lsuck
etcetera are freely thrown around. On Linux based forums, terms
like: Winblows, Microsucks, etcetera are
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 12:33:20 -0700
Chad Perrin articulated:
Now you have really peaked
Piqued. Although it is misused here.
Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote:
Chad Perrin articulated:
Now you have really peaked my interest. On any given day, on a
Windows based forum, the terms: FreePiss, open-sore, Lsuck
etcetera are freely thrown around. On Linux based forums, terms
like: Winblows, Microsucks, etcetera
Jerry,
FreeBSD Questions isn't the place to argue about how all OSes should use
a universal API, and how Ubuntu is doing such a good job.
In an ideal world, everyone would speak the same language, use the same
currency, and have identical power outlets. Unfortunately, the last time
I checked, we
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 02:07:36PM -0800, Chip Camden wrote:
Quoth Chad Perrin on Tuesday, 03 January 2012:
So . . . please start with the denotative meanings of words, consider
your audience, and use words accordingly. If you wish to use a term
differently than how it is understood,
On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 11:55:26PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 09:14:20AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 22:56:45 +1000 Da Rock articulated:
If you want to verify, then by all means parouse this list and others
(even in the linux community) over the past
On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 23:55:26 -0700
Chad Perrin articulated:
On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 09:14:20AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 22:56:45 +1000 Da Rock articulated:
If you want to verify, then by all means parouse this list and
others (even in the linux community) over the past
Ladies and gentleman, I will be unplugged from my email until the 17th of
January.
In the mean time here's a video of a bunny opening your mail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMyaRmTwdKs
Your mail will not be forwarded and I will contact you when I come back,
alternatively you can contact one
On 01/02/12 23:31, Jerry wrote:
On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 23:55:26 -0700
Chad Perrin articulated:
On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 09:14:20AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 22:56:45 +1000 Da Rock articulated:
If you want to verify, then by all means parouse this list and
others (even in the linux
Jerry,
What you're saying is that, 'you guys think that FreeBSD is a great desktop
workstation, but it's not and anyone who says it is, is wrong. Anyone who
says FreeBSD's not a great workstation because it doesn't have some
particular feature is right and any discussion which questions the value
On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 08:31:14AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 23:55:26 -0700 Chad Perrin articulated:
On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 09:14:20AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 22:56:45 +1000 Da Rock articulated:
If you want to verify, then by all means parouse this list
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 03:32:17PM -0500, David Jackson wrote:
An OS should strive to be a better platform for many people, including
techies and non-techies.
A good software design philosophy is that good software works out of the
box without configuration using reasonable defaults, but,
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 02:59:20PM -0500, David Jackson wrote:
FreeBSD is very well documented!
I guess a lot of people can't cope with how structured and professional it
is. They are used to chaos, fear, uncertainty and doubt and feel
comfortable that way.
My experience is that
On Monday 02 January 2012 18:42:44 Nikola Pavlović wrote:
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 03:32:17PM -0500, David Jackson wrote:
[troll snipper]
. perhaps could be a porting of the IOKit
driver system from Darwin, perhaps even allowing Darwin drivers to be
used on FreeBSD. All of this can go
On 01/03/12 08:10, Mario Lobo wrote:
On Monday 02 January 2012 18:42:44 Nikola Pavlović wrote:
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 03:32:17PM -0500, David Jackson wrote:
[troll snipper]
. perhaps could be a porting of the IOKit
driver system from Darwin, perhaps even allowing Darwin drivers to be
On Monday 02 January 2012 20:25:22 Da Rock wrote:
On 01/03/12 08:10, Mario Lobo wrote:
On Monday 02 January 2012 18:42:44 Nikola Pavlović wrote:
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 03:32:17PM -0500, David Jackson wrote:
[troll snipper]
. perhaps could be a porting of the IOKit
driver system
On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 12:33:20PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
Ubuntu, actually, has thrown out the baby with the bathwater. In its
zeal to make things just work in a particular manner, it seems
hell-bent on ignoring all but one way to do things, even as it tries to
dominate its entire market
On 01/03/12 12:06, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote:
On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 12:33:20PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
Ubuntu, actually, has thrown out the baby with the bathwater. In its
zeal to make things just work in a particular manner, it seems
hell-bent on ignoring all but one way to do
On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 09:03:38 +1000
Da Rock articulated:
Mac doesn't support all hardware from what I understand, and the only
system with 100% hardware support is Winblows. Given the design
philosophy of Winblows, how well written do you think the hardware
drivers are coded? For that
Ladies and gentleman, I will be unplugged from my email until the 17th of
January.
In the mean time here's a video of a bunny opening your mail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMyaRmTwdKs
Your mail will not be forwarded and I will contact you when I come back,
alternatively you can contact one
On 01/01/12 21:42, Jerry wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 09:03:38 +1000
Da Rock articulated:
Mac doesn't support all hardware from what I understand, and the only
system with 100% hardware support is Winblows. Given the design
philosophy of Winblows, how well written do you think the hardware
On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 22:56:45 +1000
Da Rock articulated:
On 01/01/12 21:42, Jerry wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 09:03:38 +1000
Da Rock articulated:
Mac doesn't support all hardware from what I understand, and the
only system with 100% hardware support is Winblows. Given the
design
Ladies and gentleman, I will be unplugged from my email until the 17th of
January.
In the mean time here's a video of a bunny opening your mail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMyaRmTwdKs
Your mail will not be forwarded and I will contact you when I come back,
alternatively you can contact one
I wish someone with some FreeBSD weight would make this request, but I think
this thread got a little off topic.
The main thrust of the FreeBSD project seems to be making the best server OS
possible. That I think they do that pretty well. I have long held that to be
viable long term in the
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 12:41 PM, doug d...@fledge.watson.org wrote:
I wish someone with some FreeBSD weight would make this request, but I
think this thread got a little off topic.
Oh buddy...
The main thrust of the FreeBSD project seems to be making the best server
OS possible. That I
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 7:41 PM, doug d...@fledge.watson.org wrote:
That said, FreeBSD has a giant disadvantage in the desktop world. In trying
to find if there will be any sort for my current laptop I came across a
comment from Robert Noland saying that Xorg is becoming more and more Linux
On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 09:14:20AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 22:56:45 +1000 Da Rock articulated:
If you want to verify, then by all means parouse this list and others
(even in the linux community) over the past _five_ (thats 5) years.
I am not sure what parouse means.
Writers who rely on ideological positions such as (socialism || fascism ||
jedi-knight == good | bad) really need to go visit a social science mailing
list. It's not like political/ religious mailing lists don't exist.
My positivist take on things:
1. Nobody is stopping anybody from changing
On 12/31/2011 01:02 PM, Joe Gain wrote:
Writers who rely on ideological positions such as (socialism || fascism ||
jedi-knight == good | bad) really need to go visit a social science mailing
list. It's not like political/ religious mailing lists don't exist.
My positivist take on things:
1.
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Bas Smeelen b.smee...@ose.nl wrote:
On 12/31/2011 01:02 PM, Joe Gain wrote:
Writers who rely on ideological positions such as (socialism || fascism ||
jedi-knight == good | bad) really need to go visit a social science
mailing
list. It's not like political/
An OS should strive to be a better platform for many people, including
techies and non-techies.
A good software design philosophy is that good software works out of the
box without configuration using reasonable defaults, but, that that the
software should be flexible, very configurable, the
On 01/01/12 06:32, David Jackson wrote:
An OS should strive to be a better platform for many people, including
techies and non-techies.
A good software design philosophy is that good software works out of the
box without configuration using reasonable defaults, but, that that the
software
On 12/30/11 16:39, Polytropon wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:43:16 -0500, David Jackson wrote:
However, My finding is that due to poor documentation, [...]
That kind of statement doesn't fit well to FreeBSD
which is known for its excellent documentation, often
considered superior to other open
On 30/12/2011 11:52, Da Rock wrote:
I haven't looked, but it would be good to have some irc channels handled
by the team though.
http://wiki.freebsd.org/IrcChannels
Cheers,
Matthew
--
Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 07:39:58 +0100
Polytropon articulated:
However, there are differences in how you judge documentation
to be _good_. Talk to a mainframer, and he will tell you a
different story. Then talk to a Windows person and explain
what documentation is, and he'll tell you that you
On 12/30/11 22:15, Jerry wrote:
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 07:39:58 +0100
Polytropon articulated:
However, there are differences in how you judge documentation
to be _good_. Talk to a mainframer, and he will tell you a
different story. Then talk to a Windows person and explain
what documentation is,
On 12/30/11 22:11, Matthew Seaman wrote:
On 30/12/2011 11:52, Da Rock wrote:
I haven't looked, but it would be good to have some irc channels handled
by the team though.
http://wiki.freebsd.org/IrcChannels
Ha! There you go... I've only just been finding out about the value of
irc in the
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 07:15:00 -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 07:39:58 +0100
Polytropon articulated:
However, there are differences in how you judge documentation
to be _good_. Talk to a mainframer, and he will tell you a
different story. Then talk to a Windows person and explain
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 22:35:46 +1000
Da Rock articulated:
Was this really necessary to post to the list? Publicly? Opinions are
your own, but this does appear rather vindictive and not really
wanted on a friendly list.
For reference Polytropon has been rather helpful many times on this
list
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 08:05:10 -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 22:35:46 +1000
Da Rock articulated:
Was this really necessary to post to the list? Publicly? Opinions are
your own, but this does appear rather vindictive and not really
wanted on a friendly list.
For reference
On 12/30/11 23:05, Jerry wrote:
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 22:35:46 +1000
Da Rock articulated:
Was this really necessary to post to the list? Publicly? Opinions are
your own, but this does appear rather vindictive and not really
wanted on a friendly list.
For reference Polytropon has been rather
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:22:30 +0100
Polytropon articulated:
From man iwn:
Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965/1000/5000/5150/5300/6000/6050
IEEE 802.11n driver
So they actually got support for one such device. I refer you to
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 1:04 AM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.comwrote:
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Thu Dec 29 21:46:36 2011
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:43:16 -0500
From: David Jackson djackson...@gmail.com
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: FreeBSD Kernel
On 12/30/11 09:59, Jerry wrote:
If FreeBSD really wanted to make a quality product they would hire
competent programmers to create the drivers, etcetera that are seriously
needed.
They do. See this for a list of FreeBSD Foundation funded projects that
have been completed:
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 09:59:14 -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:22:30 +0100
Polytropon articulated:
From man iwn:
Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965/1000/5000/5150/5300/6000/6050
IEEE 802.11n driver
So they actually got support for one such device. I refer you to
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 10:22:31 -0500, David Jackson wrote:
Of course, those best able to document are those who wrote it in
the first place, since they already know how it works.
A fact seems to be: Modern programmers don't bother
with documenting, or coding guidelines, or style or
other things
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011, Polytropon wrote:
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 10:22:31 -0500, David Jackson wrote:
Of course, those best able to document are those who wrote it in
the first place, since they already know how it works.
A fact seems to be: Modern programmers don't bother
with documenting, or
Again, as we did discuss (and agree upon) before,
supporting FreeBSD is not in the scope of hardware
manufacturers. Supporting more than the platform
they get aliments for simply wouldn't pay. The
unit sales for _this_ world of IT are simply to
low to justify the work.
That is the chicken
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:56:59 -0500, David Jackson wrote:
Again, as we did discuss (and agree upon) before,
supporting FreeBSD is not in the scope of hardware
manufacturers. Supporting more than the platform
they get aliments for simply wouldn't pay. The
unit sales for _this_ world of
David Jackson djackson...@gmail.com wrte:
Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.comwrote:
David Jackson djackson...@gmail.com wrte:
...
However, My finding is that due to poor documentation, ...
[ sneck remaineder of ill-informed trolling ]
Start with The Design and Implementation
I have had an interest in studying the FreeBSD kernel and getting to know
its internals better. After all, in Open source projects, they say,
community contributions are important.
However, My finding is that due to poor documentation, the FreeBSD kernel
is nearly impenetrable to an outsider. I
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Thu Dec 29 21:46:36 2011
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:43:16 -0500
From: David Jackson djackson...@gmail.com
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation
I have had an interest in studying the FreeBSD kernel
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:43:16 -0500, David Jackson wrote:
However, My finding is that due to poor documentation, [...]
That kind of statement doesn't fit well to FreeBSD
which is known for its excellent documentation, often
considered superior to other open source projects.
[...] the FreeBSD
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